Telekinesis

[sourboy]

This thread is for the discussion of Telekinesis in a positive, informative & hopefully educative way. Please do not post skepticism, as it's obviously a debatable subject. This thread is not for those debates, but for experiences people have had & any information, lessons or ideas they can offer regarding those experiences, along with any other positive feedback.

Thanks.

 

[Perfection]

Pfft, good luck with that! The skeptics will filter in, I'll garentee it!

 

[sourboy]

I'm sorry, but I think you left out the details of your telekinetic experience...or was it just your maturity?

 

[Perfection]

I'm just sayin'

 

[Hakim]

I've forgotten: what is Telekinesis?

 

[Akka]

Ability to apply cinetic forces through mind power alone.

 

[Hakim]

Ah yes, move stuff with your brain.

Well let's speculate:

1. maybe it's possible to transfer force with this entanglement phenomena that's been called "teleporting" a quantum state (I probably didn't use the right words there but maybe you know what I'm talking about). It could be like the senses, the brain doesn't "know" how it functions, it just uses it.

2. I read somewhere about gravity waves, it's still just speculations. Maybe the brain could create such waves and use it to move stuff.

3. Also, how about those theories claming there could be 10-11 dimensions in total. Maybe the stuff your moving are somehow connected to your brain through one of the other dimensions.

4. There is no spoon.

 

[Souron]

1) Nothing can travel faster than light.
2) Gravity waves are formed by waving heavy object around. The brain does not do this.
3) Other demmentions are sopposed to be minute.
4) If you can bend a spoon by convincing yourself you can, then why don't insane people who think they are other people, become those other people?

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No, but I have had fortune telling experiences.

 

[Raijer]

Originally posted by sourboy
This thread is for the discussion of Telekinesis in a positive, informative & hopefully educative way. Please do not post skepticism, as it's obviously a debatable subject.

Ok, first off, YOU were the one who placed skepticism as a poll option. Was this a means for you to figure out how many people WON'T be allowed to participate in this thread?

Second, by silencing any voice of skepticism, your goal for a "informative" and "educative" discussion has been utterly defeated from the get-go.

 

[IglooDame]

Have I ever observed telekinesis? No.

Do I think it exists/is possible? Insufficient data to form a conclusion.

 

[Bifrost]

1) Nothing can travel faster than light.

That's how modern physics says, but is it really so? Most likely that modern general theory of relativism is far from perfection.

And btw, it's not true, not quite true - have you ever heard anything about Cherenkov's effect?

 

[Akka]

Originally posted by Souron
1) Nothing can travel faster than light.

Well, nothing can TRAVEL faster than light, but there is some interactions that seem to be intantaneous, whatever the distance between the two objects linked.
Ask for a specialist of quantum theory for details, I don't know enough about it to say more.

2) Gravity waves are formed by waving heavy object around. The brain does not do this.

I think he was referring to the fact that gravity has an influence that expand at the speed of light, and is NOT instantaneous.

 

[Hakim]

Originally posted by Souron
1) Nothing can travel faster than light.
2) Gravity waves are formed by waving heavy object around. The brain does not do this.
3) Other demmentions are sopposed to be minute.
4) If you bend a spoon by convincing yourself you can, then why don't insancan e people who think they are other people, become those other people?

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No, but I have had fortune telling experiences.

1. In what way is that required for telekinesis?
2. How about headbanging?
3. That's probably a valid objection, I wouldn't know.
4. It's not a spoon that you're bending.

 

[Kinniken]

Well, if you define Telekinesis as the ability to move physical objects using only your mind and no muscle, then yes

 

[sourboy]

Originally posted by Raijer
Ok, first off, YOU were the one who placed skepticism as a poll option. Was this a means for you to figure out how many people WON'T be allowed to participate in this thread?

No, it was meant to be used as a basis of comparison, not far from a constant. We know this is a subject for much debate, and that most (including myself) have reason to be skeptical. I placed skeptic in as a way of measuring the believers against those who would quickly call it a farce. Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak.

Originally posted by Raijer
Second, by silencing any voice of skepticism, your goal for a "informative" and "educative" discussion has been utterly defeated from the get-go.

No, I did not silence the skeptic. I just asked them to give positive feedback. The idea of this thread is to brainstorm the possibilities of, and learn from those who've experienced, telekinesis - but of course I said that:
"This thread is not for those debates, but for experiences people have had & any information, lessons or ideas..."

Anything else - or are you going to input some actual ideas regarding the topic?

 

[sourboy]

Originally posted by Kinniken
Well, if you define Telekinesis as the ability to move physical objects using only your mind and no muscle...

I applaud your wit! You made all those who chose the "I am a skeptic" option look foolish or stupid.

To clarify, and redeem those voters, I did mean in the more psychokinetic way.

 

[sourboy]

To the person who said they have had an experience:

Can you describe the events that took place & the environment in which they occured?

You can do so in a private message, if you wish to remain anonymous.

 

[Pirate]

Well, place some electrodes on your skull, amplify it with an outside electric current and yes, you can move needles. Your brainwaves diminish to imperceptible levels just millimeters outside of your skull, so the chances that you will be able to have an effect on an outside object because of electromagnetic radiation from your brain is pretty much null.

However, my friend has one story: She was falling asleep with her head on her mom's lap. Her mom had her hand on her head. As she fell asleep her mom claims that she distinctly felt her brainwaves change. Just a sensation in her hand. Was this a telekinetic effect? Hard to say. Perhaps it was not the brainwaves but a syncronized dilation of the sleeping girls pores, release of sweat, or prickling of the tiny hairs on her forehead. There may be some other physiological reasons for what her mom felt.

My friend's mom is a human EKG machine? Maybe.
My friend bending spoons with her brainwaves? Not a snowball's chance in hell.

<edit> BTW, I was not the one to claim I had an experience. I voted "I am a skeptic" since I don't believe that what the girl's mom felt was brainwaves.

 

[Kinniken]

Originally posted by sourboy


I applaud your wit! You made all those who chose the "I am a skeptic" option look foolish or stupid.

To clarify, and redeem those voters, I did mean in the more psychokinetic way.

I am afraid sourboy that you quite misunderstood my post

I voted for the "skeptic" option, being *extremly* skeptical of any claims of "psychic" powers. While in all honesty I do not believe that science can rule the idea out, I have yet to hear of any such phenomenon who survived a real inquiry.

The link to the article on the monkeys was not to prove that real psychic powers exists... The monkeys in question are ordering the robotic arms to move via their thoughts in much the same way they would order their own arms to move; it's an amazing experiment, but it has very little to do with psychic powers capable to move objects truly on their own.

 

[Perfection]

Originally posted by sourboy
I applaud your wit! You made all those who chose the "I am a skeptic" option look foolish or stupid.

Since when is skepticism a bad thing?