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Discussion in 'Team Aloha' started by Robi D, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. BCLG100

    BCLG100 Music Master

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    I did say it was simplistic and i just used them number because they were easy to divide. However it still stands that a courthouse only gets rid of 50% of corruption in comparison to 25% gained with a grocer or market. which ok if maintenance is minus 20 gold is a lot but we dont have any cities like that.

    And as we are a financial civ then cottages are the way forward and so, the majority of cities will be raking in quite a bit of gold. If not whats the point in a financial civ?
     
  2. Kuningas

    Kuningas Chieftain

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    City maintenance can go up to -8gpt per city. I don't know distance maintenance limit, but are we not building cities on other side of the map. And if we are going to do so, we can adopt State Property to nullify distance costs. At that point Courthouses are obsoleted.
     
  3. BCLG100

    BCLG100 Music Master

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    does that satisfy you robi? :mischief:
     
  4. Robi D

    Robi D Minister of (Dis)Order

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    No :p

    I'm not saying we should mass build courthouses everywhere now, but they are not useless in my eyes either.
     
  5. robboo

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    I usually build just enough courthouses and only in my cities which are suffering for gold either because they cant make enough gpt to cover their upkeep or they are just too far away.

    I think they are only valuable in those cases, so i would not think of building ANY in the cities we currently have bu tin any others we settle or take.
     
  6. Robi D

    Robi D Minister of (Dis)Order

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    I finally have a meaningful suggestion as Domestic Minister to petition our beloved President (never hurts to suck up:) )

    This just hit me like a bolt of lighting.

    We are Creative which gives us 1/2 price theaters.
    Theaters give +1 happy face for each 10% of culture on the slider
    They also give +1 happy face for dyes and we have dyes:D

    We also have plenty of health to cover 10-12 pop in our cities but only happiness for 6-7pop. By building theaters in every city as soon as the pop warrents it and sacrificing 10% of our gold we can add 2 extra pop points in all of our cities which at 8 cities currently is 16 pop points which will more than covers the investment of 10% gold and 1/2 price theaters. And best of all we can implement it straight away, no need to wait for founding and spreading a religion or expanding to get the furs, incense or elephants. An added bonus is our borders will expand that little bit faster which will make the barbs that much less annoying.

    So what do you all think? Genius, rubbish or somewhere in between.
    My slightly biased opinion is genius;)
     
  7. Kuningas

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    If you check report for turn 131. You will see that I started Theater in Aloha and Kia Ora. Also Hello and Hej has it in build queue up next. Theaters are great invest for only 50 hammers.
     
  8. Robi D

    Robi D Minister of (Dis)Order

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    Since we are Creative its effectively 25 hammers, which means by the time a city is at 5 or 6 pop points its a 2-3 turn build. And with dyes in our hands thats a good deal for 3 culture and 1 happy face.
     
  9. BCLG100

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    Hey, it was better than my idea as foreign minister to increase communications to build a massive road to every other civ :mischief:
     
  10. robboo

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    dam good idea...we basically get the effects of religion except for the theocracy bonus on units.

    As a bonus with a religion we will be able to run as much pop as our health would allow since that will add another happy face without a temple.
     
  11. Robi D

    Robi D Minister of (Dis)Order

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    Some screenshots to keep you all up to date with all the aspects of our great nation.

    Here are the city screen (f1), Finance (f2) and victory (f8)


     
  12. Robi D

    Robi D Minister of (Dis)Order

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    I keep forgeting so while it actually in my head, the courthouse vs market issue.

    There is one more problem with BC's model. Markets give the 25% on taxes only not all commerce generated, so if you run 100% science then markets give you zero extra gold. On average an average figure 80% science a city with 20 commerce and 4 upkeep a market will give you 1 extra gold, a courthouse will save you 2 gold. Not to mention as the game goes on upkeep costs have inflation applied to them, gold earned doesn't, hence courthouses are not useless and why we should build them as the need arises :)
     
  13. BCLG100

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    Hence why sometimes it is better to run at 0 or 100% :) to get the full benefit out of buildings :)
     
  14. Robi D

    Robi D Minister of (Dis)Order

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    But courthouse give you the benefit whether you run 0%, 100% or anything in between:)

    If you look at our cities, Aloha is definately a market first. If we are going to make Hello a GP farm which everyone so far seem to think is the way to go then a courthouse would make more sense.

    Also from what i've been reading in the strategy guides number of cities maintenance is a lot higher then distance maintenance which is something to keep in mind
     
  15. BCLG100

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    I do agree that for some parts they have benefits, however if maintenance really did become a problem then a switch to state property can be in order, to my mind there is little point in building something which doesnt last the whole game.

    exception is maybe monastry's.
     

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