Terraforming Pluto.

[Perfection]

How come no-one called me on augmenting Pluto by adding Venus to it? It's like augmenting your sandbox by adding the Grand Erg Occidental ...

Because it seems more workable then wormholes or gravity generators or other stuff taken straight out of Star Trek.

 

[Perfection]

There's an idea! Placing a bunch of traces of Venus' atmosphere on Pluto. Venus does have a hot greenhouse effect, right?" Maybe.....

Not enough to compensate for having a thousand times less solar radiation.

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

"Maybe this...." "Maybe that....." ARRGHH! SO MANY IDEAS!!!!

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

Not enough to compensate for having a thousand times less solar radiation.

That's true.

 

[Hakim]

It's better if Pluto is sacrificed by crashing it into Venus, increasing it's rotation. Even better, crash it into Mars, adding both heat and mass.

Perhaps Pluto can be made a moon to one of the gas giants, and heat generated by gravitational pulls?

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

As I said earlier, how about making it a moon of EARTH! That would provide plenty of heat..... (from the sun)

 

[Hakim]

You have to add mass as well, and I'm not sure Earth would respond well to a Mars-sized moon.

 

[Pasi Nurminen]

Perfection, you can't predict the future, so you can't predict how advanced our technology will be in one or two hundred years, so you can't say that Pluto can never be terraformed.

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

I have a civ2 MGE Pluto terraforming scenario. Wanna see?

 

[Perfection]

Edit: This was at Hakim

Nah, what we need to do is transfer our consciousness to machines, then adapt it to the cold and live in harmony on Pluto, heck we could do it with Quaoar and Sedna too!

 

[stormbind]

It's incredibly cold out there! If the energy can be applied, then I don't see why not... but... it where might that energy come from?

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

I'm thinking factories. We have a lot of pollution here on earth, right, and we have a heck of a lot of highly polluting industry. So, how about we force all polluting industry to go to Pluto, wait a few decades and see what happens (Pluto is a few hundred miles smaller than our moon, so if we moved all 6 bil people to Pluto, we'd have an swamp planet in 2 centuries flat!)

 

[Hakim]

@Perfection: why transfer our consciousness, when we can just send the machines and let them feed data to us?

 

[Perfection]

Perfection, you can't predict the future, so you can't predict how advanced our technology will be in one or two hundred years, so you can't say that Pluto can never be terraformed.

I can't say it absolutly definitively, but I can say that all marks point to impossible.

Pluto is simply too far from the sun. No known atmopsheric system is going to compensate for that.

Moving it wouldn't really be terraforming it, as we're altering the environment of the planet not the planet itself.

 

[The Last Conformist]

You have to add mass as well, and I'm not sure Earth would respond well to a Mars-sized moon.

Um? Pluto is well smaller than our Moon, not to mention Mars. It's only got a couple of percent of Mars' mass.

 

[Perfection]

I'm thinking factories. We have a lot of pollution here on earth, right, and we have a heck of a lot of highly polluting industry. So, how about we force all polluting industry to go to Pluto, wait a few decades and see what happens (Pluto is a few hundred miles smaller than our moon, so if we moved all 6 bil people to Pluto, we'd have an swamp planet in 2 centuries flat!)

Except that the stuff spewed out by your highly polluting industries would be immediatly frozen, remember, on Pluto CO2 is solid.

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

Except that the stuff spewed out by your highly polluting industries would be immediatly frozen, remember, on Pluto CO2 is solid.

I stand corrected.

 

[The Last Conformist]

It's incredibly cold out there! If the energy can be applied, then I don't see why not... but... it where might that energy come from?

Pluto is much too small to retain any worthwhile atmosphere even in the bitter cold of the Kuiper belt. Now, if we heat it to Earth-like temperatures, that little problem will be seriously aggravated.

 

[Perfection]

Um? Pluto is well smaller than our Moon, not to mention Mars. It's only got a couple of percent of Mars' mass.

Not to mention the last time we had a mars sized mass in close proximity to Earth things got really messy really quick

 

[stormbind]

Pluto is much too small to retain any worthwhile atmosphere even in the bitter cold of the Kuiper belt. Now, if we heat it to Earth-like temperatures, that little problem will be seriously aggravated.

Stick a plastic bag around it?