Xanikk999
History junkie
JollyRoger said:Yep. Like the 3,000 so-called "civilians" that got killed on 9/11.
Thats kind of insensitive. Why do you think they arent civilians?
JollyRoger said:Yep. Like the 3,000 so-called "civilians" that got killed on 9/11.
As were many that have been killed in Afghanistan. Just so you know.Red Stranger said:uh, in case you don't know. The 3000 that were killed on 9/11 WERE civilians.
Just responding to the insensitivity of another poster regarding non-American civilians.Xanikk999 said:Thats kind of insensitive. Why do you think they arent civilians?
JollyRoger said:As were many that have been killed in Afghanistan. Just so you know.
JollyRoger said:Yep. Like the 3,000 so-called "civilians" that got killed on 9/11.
Those were accidents, I find it hard to believe that planes flew into buildings by accident.JollyRoger said:Just responding to the insensitivity of another poster regarding non-American civilians.
A dead civilian is a dead civilian. Doesn't matter if it was on purpose or not.Xanikk999 said:Not on purpose unless your referring to the corrupt soldiers that have performed unspeakable acts. Either way they will face justice.
Sure it does in the eyes of the law and anyone with common sence.JollyRoger said:A dead civilian is a dead civilian. Doesn't matter if it was on purpose or not.
S by your logic, the allies are as bad as Hitler?JollyRoger said:A dead civilian is a dead civilian. Doesn't matter if it was on purpose or not.
JollyRoger said:A dead civilian is a dead civilian. Doesn't matter if it was on purpose or not.
I'm talking about dead civilians being equally dead, not any equalizing those that killed them.Trajan12 said:S by your logic, the allies are as bad as Hitler?![]()
If I'm dead, it doesn't matter who killed me. I'm still a dead civilian. I have made no comment regarding equalizing the motives of those who may have killed me.Xanikk999 said:The intent doesnt matter?
So it wouldnt be any different if a terrorist group blew themselves up in a crowded mall as opposed to a couple civilians getting caught in crossfire in a combat zone?
The result is the same but the goal and the mission is very different. And thats what we are concerned about, the different ideologies.
Its called murder, but thats why there is another called manslaughter, and one called justifyable homocide a.k.a. self defence. Also, accidental death.JollyRoger said:A dead civilian is a dead civilian. Doesn't matter if it was on purpose or not.
Trajan12 said:You dont understand how a war works.
augurey said:Yeah man. The sooner we get out of Afghanistan the sooner the benevolent Taliban moves in and restores the Eden of 2001.
augurey said:Honestly, when you call for the pull out of troops, you do realize you're calling for return of the Taliban and the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqis, right?
Not true of the modern era. I was talking about your suggestion for a withdrawl. We cannot in our right minds do that.tomsnowman123 said:The goal of war is to win, usually at all costs, and usually by killing more enemy troops.
Trajan12 said:Not true of the modern era.
Maybe if our smart bombs were a bit smarter.tomsnowman123 said:I agree, which is was I said usually. Now we have "humane" wars where we don't try to kill civilians.
Trajan12 said:Maybe if our smart bombs were a bit smarter.
Maybe if they wern't evil ruthles killers.......tomsnowman123 said:Maybe if we didn't drop them in the first place.
Youre right, cluster bombs from now on.tomsnowman123 said:Maybe if we didn't drop them in the first place.