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I think this is saying microsoft can do a timing attack on the encrypted packets going between you and your AI chatbot and figure out what you are talking about.

I am not convinced, but it is yet another reason to run your own models. This is probably a pretty good idea if you are planning on some money laundering. More "societally charged" subjects in the US in the current climate could be considered the same.

Whisper Leak: A novel side-channel attack on remote language models

Microsoft has discovered a new type of side-channel attack on remote language models. This type of side-channel attack could allow a cyberattacker a position to observe your network traffic to conclude language model conversation topics, despite being end-to-end encrypted via Transport Layer Security (TLS).

Whisper Leak methodology

In our experiment, we train a binary classifier to distinguish between a specific target topic and general background traffic. We chose “legality of money laundering” as the target topic for our proof-of-concept.
  • For positive samples, we used a language model to generate 100 semantically similar variants of questions about this topic (example, “Are there any circumstances where money laundering is legal?”, “Are there international laws against money laundering?”). Eighty (80) variants were used for training and validation, and 20 were held out for testing generalization.
  • For negative noise samples, we randomly sampled 11,716 unrelated questions from the Quora Questions Pair dataset, covering a wide variety of topics.
  • Data collection was performed for each language model service individually, recording response times and packet sizes via network sniffing (via tcpdump), shuffling the order of positive and negative samples for collection, as well as introducing variants by inserting extra spaces between words to avoid caching interference risk. We chose a standard of language model temperature = 1.0 to encourage language model response diversity.
Post data-collection, we evaluated three different machine learning models, each of which was evaluated in three modes (time-only, packet-size only, or both):
  • LightGBM: A gradient boosting framework.
  • LSTM-based (Bi-LSTM): A recurrent neural network architecture suitable for sequential data.
  • BERT-based: Using a pre-trained transformer model (DistilBERT-uncased) adapted with extended tokens representing size and time buckets for sequence classification.
A quick look at the “Best Overall” column shows that for many models, the cyberattack achieved scores above 98%. This tells us that the unique digital “fingerprints” left by conversations on a specific topic are distinct enough for our AI-powered eavesdropper to reliably pick them out in a controlled test.

What this means in the real world

To understand what this means practically, we simulated a more realistic surveillance scenario: imagine a cyberattacker monitoring 10,000 random conversations, with only one conversation about the target sensitive topic mixed in. Even with this extreme imbalance, our analysis shows concerning results.

Real-world effectiveness of attacks on different provider-models.


For many of the tested models, a cyberattacker could achieve 100% precision (all conversations it flags as related to the target topic are correct) while still catching 5-50% of target conversations. In plain terms: nearly every conversation the cyberattacker flags as suspicious would actually be about the sensitive topicno false alarms. This level of accuracy means a cyberattacker could operate with high confidence, knowing they’re not wasting resources on false positives.

To put this in perspective: if a government agency or internet service provider were monitoring traffic to a popular AI chatbot, they could reliably identify users asking questions about specific sensitive topicswhether that’s money laundering, political dissent, or other monitored subjectseven though all the traffic is encrypted.
 
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Peter Thiel dumps entire Nvidia stake, slashes Tesla holdings amid bubble fears

Billionaire Peter Thiel has exited his entire stake in artificial intelligence major Nvidia, filings showed over the weekend, amid growing concerns over an AI-fueled bubble in technology valuations.

Thiel sold some 537,742 shares in NVIDIA Corporation (NASDAQ:NVDA) through the July-September period, with a Form 13F filing from his Thiel Macro fund showing that he no longer held any shares in Nvidia as of September 30.

Thiel also slashed his holding in Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) to 65,000 shares from 272,613 shares, and purchased 79,181 and 49,000 shares in Apple Inc (NASDAQ:AAPL) and Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT), respectively.

SoftBank Just Unloaded Its Stake in Nvidia for $5.8 Billion Right Before the Chip King Is Scheduled to Report Earnings.
  • Recent filings reveal that SoftBank sold its Nvidia stake for $5.8 billion.
  • Nvidia is scheduled to report earnings on Nov. 19.
  • While the timing of the sale is curious, there are some important variables to consider that pertain to SoftBank's other artificial intelligence (AI) investments.
 
Why pay when Deepseek is objectively better and FREE!

Pay to play is simply another reason America will lose, ain't nobody gonna be able to afford that come the coming economic storm. China has lower payed yet higher quality programmers as usual.

The global capitalist competitive die is cast!

Oh plus China can state subsidize their AI companies as usual unlike America, which unfortunately actually requires consumption in an ever dying soon to no longer exist consumer culture.
How do you know it's objectively better?
 
Peter Thiel dumps entire Nvidia stake, slashes Tesla holdings amid bubble fears

Billionaire Peter Thiel has exited his entire stake in artificial intelligence major Nvidia, filings showed over the weekend, amid growing concerns over an AI-fueled bubble in technology valuations.

Thiel sold some 537,742 shares in NVIDIA Corporation (NASDAQ:NVDA) through the July-September period, with a Form 13F filing from his Thiel Macro fund showing that he no longer held any shares in Nvidia as of September 30.

Thiel also slashed his holding in Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) to 65,000 shares from 272,613 shares, and purchased 79,181 and 49,000 shares in Apple Inc (NASDAQ:AAPL) and Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT), respectively.

SoftBank Just Unloaded Its Stake in Nvidia for $5.8 Billion Right Before the Chip King Is Scheduled to Report Earnings.
  • Recent filings reveal that SoftBank sold its Nvidia stake for $5.8 billion.
  • Nvidia is scheduled to report earnings on Nov. 19.
  • While the timing of the sale is curious, there are some important variables to consider that pertain to SoftBank's other artificial intelligence (AI) investments.

Nvidia is the most valuable company in the world right now.


How crazy is it when SoftBank abandons ship? :lol:
 
How do you know it's objectively better?

Who pays for it other than six figure making upper middle class professionals, when lower class normies have been socially engineered by social media and search engines to expect everything for free (with data being the caveat)? It's Cadillac Macintosh thinking vs the more pobrecito Windows thinking behind what most people now expect of software.

How long can you have a Cadillac strategy when this AI is starting to replace many jobs of the very six figured types of people who are expected to be the prime consumer of such thing? When the bubble pops the pobrecito strategy will win out, and China's just waiting on the sidelines to swoop in, since the American's overhead costs are too expensive to do anything other than the Cadillac strategy.
 
Before, syntactically, you were saying it's a better tool AND free. Now you're saying its better because it's cheaper, not because it's a better tool.
 
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