The Alexander the Great Project!

[Vrenir]

Are you also certain that you want a single leaderhead to have an animated background? I mean, yeah it could be cool, but would setting that kind of new standard be worth it?

 

[The Capo]

I think for a project like this it would be well worth it. And besides that Alexander the Great is easily one of the most historically important people in the history of the world. At least top ten, and I don't see how adding a couple of birds to the background is going to set any ridiculous precedent. Look at the amazing helmet Bernie made, look at the amazing face/head Ekmek made. We're going all out on this one... at least we should.

I mean we are basically saying "Hey everyone, take out the regular Alexander and use this one." We have to give them a reason to do so, so in my mind the better and more unique the LH is the more likely people are to actually go through the trouble of using it. We might even want to make this one modular too, so its easier to install.

 

[Vrenir]

Yeah. Point taken, and I was half joking. An animated background on this guy would be really something.

 

[Rubbaduck]

Are you going to re-texture the chestplate in the armor? It kinda looks clashy with the shoulderpads and all, maybe someone could whip up a texture based on that mosaic or something.

Otherwise this is total awesomeness, keep it up

 

[phungus420]

Are you going to re-texture the chestplate in the armor? It kinda looks clashy with the shoulderpads and all, maybe someone could whip up a texture based on that mosaic or something.

Have you seen Bernie's previous texture work? I'm sure he has it under control. (No Pressure Bernie!)

 

[Ekmek]

great....i dont really need the nif, just the blend

BTW what blender version are you using? I have 2.49 (I think, it says 2.48). I can convert to an older version if need be. For the most part 2.43 opens 2.48 stuff except it strips the dds textures.

 

[bernie14]

Have you seen Bernie's previous texture work? I'm sure he has it under control. (No Pressure Bernie!)

geez, thanks a lot! :suicide: jk..

here are some of the bases i am working with.....the finished product will proly be a bit different, but based on these....also, i would not mind suggestions regarding the color of the armor plates (bronze, goldish, iron), the color of the cape, etc....

 

[bernie14]

BTW what blender version are you using? I have 2.49 (I think, it says 2.48). I can convert to an older version if need be. For the most part 2.43 opens 2.48 stuff except it strips the dds textures.

mine says 2.48a and has some a nasty monkey and other furries on the splash screen

 

[Ekmek]

cool. 2.48a should work. and awesome artwork to go from. i prefer more bronze but your the master.

Are we sold on making him lefty and holding the helmet in the right? if not say so now while i'm rigging!

PS where you find t hose pics?

 

[bernie14]

cool. 2.48a should work. and awesome artwork to go from. i prefer more bronze but your the master.

Are we sold on making him lefty and holding the helmet in the right? if not say so now while i'm rigging!

PS where you find t hose pics?

i'm fine with the lefty idea.....the pics i got by googling -alexander the great armor- and displaying images....

btw...i was looking at the miniature more closely and noticed the sword.....i googled and got these types.....what do u guys think? shouldnt be to hard to sculpt and texture..... (as long as i dont have to rig it )

 

[Ekmek]

btw...i was looking at the miniature more closely and noticed the sword.....i googled and got these types.....what do u guys think? shouldnt be to hard to sculpt and texture..... (as long as i dont have to rig it )

go ahead and sculpt it. Its rigged to the torso now, but if we ever add new animations it should be easy to rig to a sword bone. we cant use pericles because he uses his right hand for the sword. which is really making me want to rig him as a right hander.

 

[The Capo]

@ Bernie; in both cases (armor and sword) I'd go with the second as the basis for the final texture. I think Ekmek's reskinning on the sleeves looks good though, so I'd leave the stars and just make the sleeves white.

@ Ekmek; As far as the animations; I don't think it is that necessary that Alexander actually brandishes the sword. I think at his side hanging from that strap (we might want to make a hilt for it too) looks fine, especially if Bernie makes that awesome sword because the handle looks great and if he's swinging around the sword you won't see it. With his armor and helmet he is already going to look pretty gawdy, so if he's swinging around a sword too it might make the LH a bit over the top. I don't know that we are "set" on keeping the helmet in his right hand and making him a lefty (although it appears he was, in fact, left-handed) but that's just what we have so far. I'm sure if you have an idea to improve upon the LH we wouldn't mind.

To sum up though; personally I don't mind if it stays the way it is or not. But if its going to be better I'm always for the cooler looking LH so its up to you ultimately.

EDIT: @ Ekmek - have you come up with a pic for me to use for the BG so I can start working on the nif?

 

[Ekmek]

Ok, most of the major riggingi s done. some rigging on the cheeks nees to be done (puffs out too much when mad) and the arm goes into the chest but I wanted to get bernie a chance to work on this and I may be tied up the next few days.

so here is a zip with the textures, the blend, and a game playable nif (if you use Zara Yacob's stuff)

on to you bernie!

edit: added another screenie

 

[Huayna Capac357]

Nice! But the question is, what will we use Alexander Vanilla for?

Also, in the style of you guys refurbishing LHs (Alex, Hitler), could you make a new Adams? He looks nothing like the real Adams.

 

[The Capo]

Looks awesome, and I can definitely see that the exhale/inhale thing with the cheeks is a bit extreme at this point. Hopefully that can be fixed. I have another question though. I notice part of the animation he reaches his arm towards the sword (or it at least looks like it). Is this intentional and are we going to be able to make it look like he's about to grab it?

 

[The Capo]

Nice! But the question is, what will we use Alexander Vanilla for?

If you look earlier in this thread I posted a link to a website that had a list of ancient Greek military and political leaders. Ekemek suggestd Phyrrus, but there is a whole list of people he could represent pretty readily.

Also, in the style of you guys refurbishing LHs (Alex, Hitler), could you make a new Adams? He looks nothing like the real Adams.

Probably not. I mean John Adams was an important figure in (American) history, obviously I have a quote by him in my signature so I do respect the man. But at the same time in the scheme of world history and the effects he had upon it Adams is far behind Hitler and Alexander in importance. Plus Adams is a colonization leader.

 

[Huayna Capac357]

1. Which Pyrrhus? There's like 7 on Wikipedia

2. That's fine, I understand. I just particularly don't like that LH, so. But whatever, it's not that important.

 

[achilleszero]

1. Which Pyrrhus? There's like 7 on Wikipedia

Probably Pyrrhus of Epirus. Hannibal ranked the greatest generals as 1: Alexander, 2: Pyrrhus, and then himself as 3rd. Although I dont think Hannibal was giving himself enough credit.

 

[bernie14]

warning..this is nowhere near finished, but i wanted to run something by u guys (and gals?).....ok, i have done some minor facial/hair sculpting and UV mapping, but i wanted to see the eyes and ask if u would like them different colors or one color?

 

[The_J]

Looks more mature (but not old) than the last version.

Why different colours?