warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
Christians gave me a stupid rash that almost ruined my trip to Peru. I had to use a strong heretic creme to clear up the affected areas.
The all new, totally accepted, bigotry thread - "Blame a Christian"
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Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Christians need to learn to properly include an html-file and not echo everything in php. Now I have to redo a whole effing project because someone decided to create a stylesheet.
GhostWriter16
Deity
Let's look back 500 years or so...
Oh thosee awful Christians! They should just stop killing Christians! Horrible Christians!
Christians gave my lions indigestion.
GhostWriter16
Deity
*Facepalm*
Ugh, a Christian made me type that...
Ugh, a Christian made me type that...
The devil will lead your palm to less painful places than your face.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Not sure whether this is too off topic for this thread, but since it 'replaced' the Ask a Christian thread.
In some news related program which I saw yesterday on jewtube there was a panel who was debating about the Pope and it's role in Christianity, and one of the guys who was invited (unknown to me, probably atheist, never specifically mentioned) claimed the role was of the utmost importance since the Pope is the replacement of Christ on Earth. Now I'm not sure, but I believe that is the Catholic way of thinking while Protestant don't consider the Pope to be. (I should have read more of the Cath vs Prot thread
Correct me if I'm wrong)
How annoying is this for for instance Protestants that a. the differences are unknown (perhaps linking to the discussion about religious education) and b. that Catholic specific take is bandied out as representing every Christian?
In some news related program which I saw yesterday on jewtube there was a panel who was debating about the Pope and it's role in Christianity, and one of the guys who was invited (unknown to me, probably atheist, never specifically mentioned) claimed the role was of the utmost importance since the Pope is the replacement of Christ on Earth. Now I'm not sure, but I believe that is the Catholic way of thinking while Protestant don't consider the Pope to be. (I should have read more of the Cath vs Prot thread
Correct me if I'm wrong)How annoying is this for for instance Protestants that a. the differences are unknown (perhaps linking to the discussion about religious education) and b. that Catholic specific take is bandied out as representing every Christian?
No more annoying than hearing evangelical Protestants blithely stating their particular church's views as representing every Christian.
In the US, I don't know about elsewhere, but here it is pretty common for Protestant leaders to claim that God has spoken to them, and so they are the ones who know the truth, and therefor everyone should follow what that leader says to be true.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
I'm thinking more in the lines of a third party, a non-Christian, who gets to hear this 'expert' say these things and as a result is under the impression every Christian sees the pope as a replacement of Christ on Earth.
Maybe a bit along the same lines as people who hear something about a scientific theory like Global Warming, and then state it as fact themselves. (Think of the infamous: a vulcano spews more CO2 than all humans in a year) That irritates me as well. So, I'm wondering if Christians care how non-Christians see Christianity, especially when their views are misinformed.
Maybe a bit along the same lines as people who hear something about a scientific theory like Global Warming, and then state it as fact themselves. (Think of the infamous: a vulcano spews more CO2 than all humans in a year) That irritates me as well. So, I'm wondering if Christians care how non-Christians see Christianity, especially when their views are misinformed.
kochman
Deity
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I do, but there is hardly a consensus on most issues, so it is pretty hard to explain what a Christian is beyond some very vague terms... such as, accepts Christ...
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
That is only true for some evangelical Protestant leaders. The rest of them would likely be laughed out of their congregations if they stated any such thing. AFAIK even Billy Graham hasn't claimed that God has personally spoken to him.
GhostWriter16
Deity
Not sure whether this is too off topic for this thread, but since it 'replaced' the Ask a Christian thread.
In some news related program which I saw yesterday on jewtube there was a panel who was debating about the Pope and it's role in Christianity, and one of the guys who was invited (unknown to me, probably atheist, never specifically mentioned) claimed the role was of the utmost importance since the Pope is the replacement of Christ on Earth. Now I'm not sure, but I believe that is the Catholic way of thinking while Protestant don't consider the Pope to be. (I should have read more of the Cath vs Prot thread
How annoying is this for for instance Protestants that a. the differences are unknown (perhaps linking to the discussion about religious education) and b. that Catholic specific take is bandied out as representing every Christian?
I'm pretty sure Catholics don't think the Pope replaces Christ. They think he's Peter's successor. And yeah, its a bit annoying, especially since I don't even think he got the Catholic position right
"God has spoken to me" is different than "God told me every truth so treat everything I say as if its from God." And the former doesn't generally mean clear, audible speech. Its a spiritual thing.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
How does that spiritual thing change into the usually rather specific message?
GhostWriter16
Deity
Well, I do believe God can reveal doctrine to people, but we aren't obligated to believe what someone had individually revealed to them, and we have no right to tell someone that said specific revelation is the word of God and therefore they have to believe it.
We are able to do so with the actual words of the Bible, at least relating to each other.
That said, if God does speak audibly to people anymore, its extremely rare, and I'd tend to assume anyone claiming he did was a liar. God does, however, speak to our hearts and through his Word.
useless
Social Justice Rogue
If someone said god spoke directly to them, that they heard "voices" my first thought would be to get them to seek a diagnosis for schizophrenia or some sort of psychosis.
GhostWriter16
Deity
If they actually said they heard God speak audibly to them, I'd tend to agree. Granted, being a Christian, I acknowledge the POSSIBILITY that it could be inaccurate, depending on what they claimed to have heard, but for the most part, I'd assume what you say above was the correct course unless I had specific reason to think differently.
That said, what I was describing was a sort of spiritual communication which is NOT heard audibly, and thus is a completely different matter, and even if it was not real, would not be schitzophrenic.
That said, what I was describing was a sort of spiritual communication which is NOT heard audibly, and thus is a completely different matter, and even if it was not real, would not be schitzophrenic.
