Imperator Knoedel
Currently obsessed with The Owl House
But I also play with events on, which makes slavery the worst civic in the game.
And I dislike sacrificing my population for RP reasons on top.

But I also play with events on, which makes slavery the worst civic in the game.
And I dislike sacrificing my population for RP reasons on top.
Neither mentioning Doshin, Kaitzilla and WastinTime makes this poll slightly superflous.
Not mentioning TMIT or Seraiel?
I don't link this, because I'm ranking in 3rd place, but because many players still don't seem to be aware, how much an achievement it is to be ranked here. This list ofc. is not the list of the best CIV-players of all times, but to achieve it, over 50 Deity-games are needed, basically the whole game with all possible options is requested to have been successfully played if wanting to be on that list. Not seeing even one player of that list being an option in this poll seems somehow wrong imo. .
From gamefaq.comBut I also play with events on, which makes slavery the worst civic in the game.
And I dislike sacrificing my population for RP reasons on top.
So you are saying the loss of 1 turn and some pop makes it the worst in the game? That is unless you choose the last option, and even then, it is only a turn (maybe.... maybe more... feel lucky?Slave Revolt
Mechanics==-- Chance of Event in Game = 80% Required = Slavery as National Civic At least 4 population Writing, Monotheism, Priesthood, Iron Working
--==Options==-- "Crack down on the rebels. Put down the revolt. Re-establish order." "Restore order first, then investigate and redress some of the slaves' grievances." "We are too busy to be bothered. Leave the matter to the local authorities. (Revolt may continue)."
--==Results==--
Option 1 - "Crack down on the rebels. Put down the revolt. Re-establish order." Cost : None Result : Revolt for 1 Turn -2 Population in City
Option 2 - "Restore order first, then investigate and redress some of the slave's grievances." Cost : 10 Gold Revolt for 1 Turn -1 Population in City
Option 3 - "We are too busy to be bothered. Leave the matter to the local authorities." Cost : None Result : 40% Chance for Slave Revolt Again Revolt for 1 Turn
I wonder what would happen if Kossin or Duckweed would bother with HoF format. Or Snaaty leave his Deity AW games for a moment.
Would that page look the same?
That is unless you choose the last option, and even then, it is only a turn (maybe.... maybe more... feel lucky?)
Btw proving again, that Super players list and HoF list have nothing in common. Only legendary player on HoF page I recognize - Rusten. And he is # 17.![]()
It took a while before you bothered to get around to knocking me out of the deity HoF front page, which I "earned" by creating a warmonger/peacemonger hate map split and permanently allying my way into domination, taking a front page entry for a while with like 90 minutes of play and gifting warriors/catapults to the AI lol.
Well said TMIT, excellent analysis.It probably wouldn't look much different. Players optimize for what they're doing. Quite a few of the HoF top contenders are capable deity players.
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For pure SP victory skill, the best measure is probably XOTM, while S&T games and HoF give different perspectives and have different (but related) skillsets required to perform well.
I was playing in an MP game and my brother got that event and it lasted for 13 turns and cost him the mids. I was LMAO while trying to sound sympathetic.
I've had it last double digits turns before also. In one game my first three cities all got it at one point for a combined 20 turns.
In an MP game it can be a game changer. I've taken advantage of it when I see an opponent's city go into revolt because of it, and attack knowing he can't whip those REAL defenders and only had to take out a warrior or two.
I'm not saying that the event makes slavery not a good choice, I'm just saying that sometime the RNG makes you pay. The OP was saying that the penalty was only a few turns. We've seen them last considerably longerQUOTE]
Ive been stung too many times with this event and ALWAYs take the pop hit,by the time it gets to the 4th turn of anarchy,you stopand start
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As a friend, I ofc. knocked you out as late as possible, so once I couldn't see a game like that stand on the frontpage anymore.
Quite a few of the HoF top contenders are capable deity players. For example wastintime's score optimization is not something Snaaty would know offhand, and is sufficiently micro intensive that it would be very difficult even for other elite players to match. Keep in mind, also, that it is the HoF players that discovered culture wins using espionage as a generator, specifically because the driving factor was turn finish date in an optimized setting, not victory in a difficult setting.
MP with blazing timer is all different beast. There aren't many who could stand your warp speed of playing.Some of the deity players have enough stored micro heuristic to handle blazing timers without too much dropoff (Obsolete did, Rusten probably could), but not everyone, and in most formats it's irrelevant.
For pure SP victory skill, the best measure is probably XOTM, while S&T games and HoF give different perspectives and have different (but related) skillsets required to perform well.
I might be know little, ma chere Seraiel, yet reading through various articles posted by aforementioned players shows how light years ahead they are in terms of game understanding. May be you should take your time and try to read these too. May be then your posts will contain tiny bit of actual value aside of insults and self advertising.Obsolete, you're arrogant...And now go home and l2p.
I might be know little, ma chere Seraiel, yet reading through various articles posted by aforementioned players shows how light years ahead they are in terms of game understanding. May be you should take your time and try to read these too. May be then your posts will contain tiny bit of actual value aside of insults and self advertising.
Those are good players, but it feels like some really, really strong names got lost in antiquity. ABigCivFan, Rusten, and Unconquered_Sun have all pulled ridiculous things in standard and/or difficult deity positions. For example in BOTM 10 U_Sun got HRE to tanks/bombers by early 1400's...on a seafood start and won domination in a game only a handful of players won at all. For a few years after that I can't think of anybody who outplayed Rusten, who really pushed the Cuirassers/Cav strategy then was amused to come back after a break and realize it had become meta.
*snip*