the best of your ccountry
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Jawz II
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well, guess again chachi, if by saving the world you mean defeating the nazis, then that was the russians, by d day germanys wehrmacht was F:d big time, look at the casaulty numbers and compare them with russian front,
facts grasshopper, not nationalistic fiction!
i know russians dont have a big hollywood monster thing to make "saving private smirnov" for them, but that dosent change the facts
d-day was to save france and half of germany to be liberated by the red army, and therefore becoming soviet property, the germans were defeated big time by then already!!
facts grasshopper, not nationalistic fiction!
i know russians dont have a big hollywood monster thing to make "saving private smirnov" for them, but that dosent change the facts
d-day was to save france and half of germany to be liberated by the red army, and therefore becoming soviet property, the germans were defeated big time by then already!!
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We built the Titanic! I think I can quite safely say that that's our countries finest acheivement, even though we sent hundreds of people to a watery grave. Was a nice ship though.
Jawz II
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bigmeat said:
1.i do remember japan and the use of wmd on civilians, as a nationalist however you might not wanna remind others of it
and it wasnt the nukes that killed the most civilians anyway, it was the incindiary!
2.i dont see how saving france from communism = saving the world!
3.much technology money, and manufactured parts for what, the russians?
again, i hate to burst your bubble of nationalistic pride with reality again, but look into the facts...
they did recive some hardware, but not much at all, it had to be delivered to them trough the north sea where the german fleet made it real hard..
and the tanks they did get were inferior the t-34s
if you mean much technology money, and manufactured parts for something else, then please correct me!
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I'm not too sure that any one country can claim the credit for saving the world during WWII purely for itself. However, I do agree that for the British, the Second World War represents a time when the best of our country was on show. The defiance of the odds to keep in the war despite having to spend a year fighting it all but alone, and then to continue fighting it despite the constraints, and assist in the liberation of Europe was a fine achievement.
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Indeed the Americians who went to the USSR were given obscenely huge pay for their work, so really they were just exploiting a country in need. And don't forget, America had no intention whatsoever of "fighting for freedom". They wouldn't have been in the war at all if it weren't for Pearl Harbour.
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Provolution
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World War 2
Norway was the first defensive allied power to eat the Wehrmacht in a field battle.
More than 5000 Germans died in Norway compared to some 10 000 in France during the Blitz. The final sum is Norway removed the mythology of German invulnerability.
Oh , I forgot to mention that it was Norwegian special forces that stopped the German nuclear wespons program, which de facto stopped the German nuclear bomb.
Norway discovered America.
Norway developed skiing in detail.
Norway was about to build a North Atlantic Empire prior to the Black Plague-
Norway was the first defensive allied power to eat the Wehrmacht in a field battle.
More than 5000 Germans died in Norway compared to some 10 000 in France during the Blitz. The final sum is Norway removed the mythology of German invulnerability.
Oh , I forgot to mention that it was Norwegian special forces that stopped the German nuclear wespons program, which de facto stopped the German nuclear bomb.
Norway discovered America.
Norway developed skiing in detail.
Norway was about to build a North Atlantic Empire prior to the Black Plague-
Jawz II said:1.i do remember japan and the use of wmd on civilians, as a nationalist however you might not wanna remind others of it
and it wasnt the nukes that killed the most civilians anyway, it was the incindiary!
2.i dont see how saving france from communism = saving the world!
3.much technology money, and manufactured parts for what, the russians?
again, i hate to burst your bubble of nationalistic pride with reality again, but look into the facts...
they did recive some hardware, but not much at all, it had to be delivered to them trough the north sea where the german fleet made it real hard..
and the tanks they did get were inferior the t-34s
if you mean much technology money, and manufactured parts for something else, then please correct me!
we gave them money
Provolution said:
And *that's* something to be proud of...? There's an interesting theory at the moment that the Carthaginians discovered America and even started settling it. It would be great if that were true.
Provolution said:
Although it was - of all people - the English who invented *downhill* ski-ing and developed it as a sport.
Actually, that probably is our greatest achievement. That and David Hume.
Except that he was Scottish. Damn.
Er... Beowulf?
i also think we should exclude ww2 because now i realise many countries can cite thes as their greatest of their country, i would say now excluding ww2, the the fall of the iron curtain that was hastened by americas arms race with russia
privatehudson
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In the words of Oscar Wilde: Oh it was discovered before that, they just hushed it up
As for beating the Wermacht in a field battle, that's hardly difficult considering they'd only faced Poland prior to the invasion of Norway
If we're to exclude WWII, then for England I'd go with the Industrial revolution. If we're talking Britain, then I'd go with the Empire, not the most pleasant thing we did, but for such a tiny nation to control so much land is one hell of an achievement
Detlef Richter
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We are in front of the oekological thinking (German word is: 'Umweltschutz').
philippe
FYI, I chase trains.
we killed french knights in 1302 with peasants.
We were then the richest country in the world!
We were then the richest country in the world!
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philippe said:
Oooooo we managed that At Crecy and Agincourt and Potiers, we even captured their king at the last battle
Pity we lost though in the end
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philippe said:
Which country are you talking about? I don't get the reference...
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Philippe's Belgian IIRC
Jawz II
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bigmeat said:
im sure you did, but as im sure you know money cant fight wars.
what you can do with money is to buy weapons, but then youll have to find sosmeone willing to sell weapons!
however in wars or a mess like ww2, people are not likely to part with their weapons, not even for money cause it can mean their ass!
for example the usa had a a few contracts to deliver weapons to certain countries,for example fighter planes to sweden
contracts that were written before the war, and after the war broke out they decided to keep it for themselves, and not deliver them when it was needed the most
and the russians couldnt buy anything from the allies cause as i mentioned earlier, the allies were delivering as much stuff as could already, which wasnt much!
im not saying having money is bad, but having some real help is better!
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