The Boeing Thread

[Thorgalaeg]

Yeah, the voice recording doesn't really prove whether it's the alleged culprit being asked, or if he asked his co-pilot the question to place blame away from himself.

I don't envy the investigators tasked with figuring it out. They'll have to investigate both pilots, their family situation, financials, medical history and so on with a microscope.

I think the first suspect should be the pilot monitoring, since the pilot handling is too busy keeping the aircraft on the path. Usually it is the first officer who handles the aircraft during taking off and landings to add hours to his logbook while the captain is monitoring. So I would investigate the captain first.

 

[bc1]

The turbofans had not completely stopped, yet, so one engine was starting to gain power, but it was too late.

Both engines N2 had gone below idle. Turning back on the engines took a full 10 seconds, from 08:08:42 to 08:08:52, that is a lot of time on an aircraft. Engines went through relight but it was way too late. Engine noise is such an obvious cue it's amazing the sane pilot took so long to react.

Engine cutoff during takeoff has happened before, check out the 1993 air inter incident where the captain blew a fuse and shut down both engines at ~4500´. Co-pilot turned the engines back on immediately, but captain shut them down again. Fortunately there was no stupid armored cockpit door at the time, so the stews were able to restrain the captain, unlike that fatefull germanwing flight were the cockpit door sucessfully resisted attempts to enter and sealed the flight's fate. The air inter A320 eventually recovered at ~1500ft, and the incident was carefully covered up at the time but there are records.

 

[r16]

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Spoiler :

don't know this will be recorded as the hottest day ever for the big city nearby but getting out to the street resembled opening the oven's lid . The smell in the air by midnight ı couldn't make sense of but the echo chamber says it is ash carried over some 100 kilometers in the air . The big city nearby has quite a light pollution and ı could maybe see 5 or 10 stars at most on a given clear night , barely could make one .

the forest fires we had never heard of in the glory of New Turkey but they managed to have 10 killed in the line of firefighting , some seriously harsh way of reporting it . If won't fight the fire , just don't risk people maybe ? Must have happened previously with some deaths as the fire can be truly dangerous and lethal , but can't remember this much losses ...

uh , off-topic ? Yeah , another memorandum of understanding . British sells New Turkey 40 Eurofighters . The blog that dispenses Pentagon's lies even mentions British Labor union something , calling it a betrayal of their country with Warton , the final production facility of BAC ; with English Electric origins , closing down for good . Like just a week ago it was reported like 67 or 75% of the demonstrator of their artillery spotter has been assembled . Like in Warton , for service stuff expected by 2035 . It was big thing even for Germans , too , who have to keep their production facilities busy until 2040 , as that's the time when the French will finish their artillery spotter in the co-production stuff . (Nobody used to need fighters when these programmes started)

the article even says the search for fighters is now likely over . Uh uh .

the same site also reports Lockmart offers some new F-35 variant as a bridge . With a poster or two creating a line for calling it F-41 and like not the F-38 . One follows the British formula of basing names on the products of companies that have fallen by the wayside , the Republic P-41 and not Lockheed's very own P-38 . Early F-40s , as you might have encountered somewhere around . Like the Turkish production scheme has its name already and Americans will (happily) go the Pre-MacNamara , pre 1962 way . Like the Grumman F-14 could still be be F14F , if they avoided giving a Grumman number to General Dynamics F-111 and avoided F13F on bad luck connotations . Was impressed by the rot McDonnell Douglas supposedly emanates working backwards in history as well . Historians in maybe 2023(?) discovering F12F is the Grumman Tiger with the J-79 engine and not the G-118 that lost out to the F4H/F-110 Phantom II ... F-35D for the USN and let USAF get its share , too , isn't that viable ?

the Eurofighter deal definitely targets the pre-production batch of F-24G with the American engine . As some 23 billion dollars worth of contract to buy F-16s have gone sour already with me already confused if they don't want the new jets or American modernization kits . If no new F-16s , they can talk bad about the economics of a truncated programme to buy engines with no future and stuff . Turn a page back or so to remember Indonesians claiming they might buy 100 . Like not that ı believed or anything but Potemkin would do great in the fighter jet marketing of these days . Echo chamber insists the RAF will not stick its Tranche 1 jets . Those they can't find a job for . After specifically avoiding the thing about donating them to Ukraine because somebody did not sign the dotted line for bearing the costs a lá Trump who reached 500 billions when the American outlay was under 100 or something . Some poster in the echo chamber says those ignorant of the Defence scenery should not pollute the thread with their ignorance and then like claims the Eurofighter has a combat radius of 2800 kilometers without external fuel . Like when the internet claims 1800 with 3 drop tanks .

and the best part is that the Syrian jihadists or the Shara Goverment has demanded military support against ISIL who are apparently still around if you believe the claims and of course you already deduced this is for protection from Israel . At a time Germany flips 9 times in the air to look like supporting Israel and has extracted written guarantees that New Turkey will not use Eurofighters in the Aegean and no similar papers are not around the safeguard Israeli ethnic cleansing campaigns on multiple grounds . This in a week New Turkey introduces Steel Dome , a copy of something in name and whatever , declares a 800 kilometers capable surface to surface missile and claims a hypersonic variant of the same and brags 34 warships are in simultaneous construction . Like New Turkey is doing so good ? Do we need the Eurofighter ? Uh uh ...

edit: Corrected the number of deaths .