The Capo's LH Gallery and Self-Help Thread!

[Leoreth]

Great as always!

But are you sure on Napoleon's animations? I don't know much about Cavour's personality, but he doesn't strike me the hot-tempered type enough to warrant some of Napoleon's behaviour. Churchill's calm actions seem to fit much better.

 

[Ekmek]

Great as always!

But are you sure on Napoleon's animations? I don't know much about Cavour's personality, but he doesn't strike me the hot-tempered type enough to warrant some of Napoleon's behaviour. Churchill's calm actions seem to fit much better.

I thought maybe lincoln's animations - but i havent done a LH in awhile.

 

[Leoreth]

Lincoln sounds good as well. And I just noticed that Churchill's animations will at least pose a problem in that Cavour lacks a hat

 

[The Capo]

Yeah, Lincoln wouldn't work either because the animations conflict with the glasses.

I got this.

 

[10lire]

Okay everyone, I got it in game and it is actually working out much better than most LHs do in their first go. I just want those of you who do not create LHs to realize this is not as close to being finished as it might look. I obviously have to fix the lenses on his glasses, I am missing a few textures here and there and on top of that I haven't shadered it yet. There is also a small issue with the beard (which I have marked in red), so while this is a good preview do not expect this to be the final version. Having said all of that here he is...

...as stated previously, I might still change the texturing/coloring on his clothing. These screens are using the default Winston Churchill animations (the LH was based on Winston Churchill), I am most likely going to go with Napoleon's animations in the end, or at least a combination of the two if that works out. So, what does everyone think so far?

This is a constructive critics: the purple neckerchief (scarf? I don't know the exact english word..) doesn't convince me: first of all it seems to me flat in the lower part (maybe because there is no shadow beneath) and, over that, the shape and the color don't match with the traditional image of Cavour: he weared something like this instead:

Spoiler :

A less important suggestion is about the size of the glasses: they seems to be a little bigger than originals (again, compare it with the picture I've inserted here).

About decorations and medals: Cavour weared them when he wanted to represent himself as a Count, not as Prime Minister, that is the one role he could have in Civ.

Anyway, whatever is your decision, it will be a great LH! (I was waiting for Cavour for years!!)

 

[Vortilex]

So you could use Lincoln's bowtie? I don't remember who made the Teddy Roosevelt leaderhead, but you could use their glasses.

 

[Graceheart the Leopard]

Is Yagan's background Ayer's Rock? If so, wouldn't that be like if Peter the Great's background was Saint Peter's Basilica or Notre Dame?

 

[AbsintheRed]

Hey Capo!
I was testing a few LHs, and noticed that the eyes of Charles V in the shadered version are a little strange. Too white, or too bright, it's hard to explain...
Maybe it's just a problem on my end, but could you test it out?

 

[The Capo]

So you could use Lincoln's bowtie? I don't remember who made the Teddy Roosevelt leaderhead, but you could use their glasses.

I could, in fact I am seriously considering it as I am currently working on ramping up the quality of the LH. I'm sure some of you are wondering why he hasn't been released yet, well frankly it is because I am redoing some of his attire. But it will wind up being better for it. Most likely Arpad and Camillo will be released at the same time.

Is Yagan's background Ayer's Rock? If so, wouldn't that be like if Peter the Great's background was Saint Peter's Basilica or Notre Dame?

Yagan's background is in fact Ayer's Rock, but I will also say that he was not orginally Yagan, he was just given the name Yagan because I couldn't think of anything else. And as far as the Peter the Great comment, I have no idea what the importance of Ayer's Rock is, but I am relatively sure it wasn't BUILT by anybody, so I don't understand what your remark is supposed to mean. I just wanted to put a recognizable Australian landmark in the background, and I remembered Ayer's Rock looked pretty cool so I went with it. If there is a good reason this was a poor choice please let me know rather than making an asanine comment with no explanation. If I did this, obviously I didn't realize the mistake, so could you tell me why it is incorrect?

Hey Capo!
I was testing a few LHs, and noticed that the eyes of Charles V in the shadered version are a little strange. Too white, or too bright, it's hard to explain...
Maybe it's just a problem on my end, but could you test it out?

I'll take a look at it again, I didn't shader it, so I can't say what process was used to do it. But sometimes, depending on the process, parts of the LH may get "shadered" incorrectly or inappropriately, so most likely that is the case here since Chuck was shadered in the early days of retroactive shading. But I'll make sure to take a look at it as I work on my mod.

EDIT: So after a quick Wikipedia search for Ayer's Rock, I believe I realize what he meant. Basically Yagan is from a different tribe than those who hold Ayer's Rock holy, or rather those who even lived in the same region of Ayer's Rock. But again, as Yagan is really intended as a generic Aboriginal leader, and since I will not be making another one I don't care. If anyone really cares that much make your own background, or your own leaderhead, or whatever. I don't care.

 

[Ekmek]

I
Yagan's background is in fact Ayer's Rock, but I will also say that he was not orginally Yagan, he was just given the name Yagan because I couldn't think of anything else. And as far as the Peter the Great comment, I have no idea what the importance of Ayer's Rock is, but I am relatively sure it wasn't BUILT by anybody, so I don't understand what your remark is supposed to mean. I just wanted to put a recognizable Australian landmark in the background, and I remembered Ayer's Rock looked pretty cool so I went with it. If there is a good reason this was a poor choice please let me know rather than making an asanine comment with no explanation. If I did this, obviously I didn't realize the mistake, so could you tell me why it is incorrect?

I was expecting drunk Capo to reply

 

[AbsintheRed]

I was expecting drunk Capo to reply

Lol
Yeah, that's a real disappointment, ain't it?

Btw Ekmek, I hate to ask this again, but since you are here in Capo's thread and the LH would go in his mod too
Did you manage to work on Theo in the past few months?
Or any of your WIP LHs?

 

[Graceheart the Leopard]

Thank you. What I was trying to say was that it would be absurd to put a background that showed a landmark half a continent away from where the leader lived (Yagan lived somewhere around modern-day Perth, while Ayer's Rock is in the middle of Australia), and I thought that it would be like if Peter of Russia's background was Saint Peter's in Rome. Perhaps I should have been more clear.

 

[The Capo]

Thank you. What I was trying to say was that it would be absurd to put a background that showed a landmark half a continent away from where the leader lived (Yagan lived somewhere around modern-day Perth, while Ayer's Rock is in the middle of Australia), and I thought that it would be like if Peter of Russia's background was Saint Peter's in Rome. Perhaps I should have been more clear.

Again, I know what you were trying to say. But if you don't explain it, it just seems like you are being a snarky douchebag. And obviously I had no idea what I was doing, otherwise I wouldn't have put that background in, so I clearly needed an explanation rather than just some comment thrown at me.

But like I said before, it doesn't matter to me. I didn't really make him to be Yagan, I just made him to be a generic Aboriginal leader and because I couldn't come up with a better name I just dubbed him Yagan. I have no idea what Yagan looked like at all, so this LH isn't really based on Yagan.

But regardless of who this LH is used as, it isn't difficult to change the background, so if anybody has a problem with it, by all means, change it.

 

[Ekmek]

Btw Ekmek, I hate to ask this again, but since you are here in Capo's thread and the LH would go in his mod too
Did you manage to work on Theo in the past few months?
Or any of your WIP LHs?

Sorry, no. Because 1) I had re-install my hard-drive (I didn't lose anything) but I have yet to put blender back on 2) I get tied up with Civ5 stuff - a lot - like playing the game when I get free time instead of modding. But soon I'll be on travel for work which means I'll have a lot of downtime at night to do LHs in March.

 

[The Capo]

Sounds fine, take your time.

 

[The Capo]

Just in case anybody was wondering, I was thinking of going in this direction with the Cavour LH...

Now, it won't be exactly like this (I like to add my own vision to things), but it will be very similar. It won't take much longer to do, in fact it is an easy change, but the fine tuning may take some time.

Thoughts?

 

[cool3a2]

Your idea is good, I think. For some reason, while the leaderheads face already comes close to Cavour, it's still reminding me too much on Churchill. I don't know why exactly (maybe the eyes?! ) nor how you could improve on that, though... Well, maybe it already solves if you make his hair brighter and if you work on the shader.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Churchill?
I didn't even notice he is based on Churchill

 

[The Capo]

He is based on Churchill, but honestly based on the wax figure they made of Cavour (and I am assuming that was either based on a death mask or by some other means more accurate than etchings or paintings are) there isn't a whole lot more I can do to the LH to get it to look more like Camillo.

Anyway, here is what I did for the new one, I didn't want to make him too gaudy so that the file is too large (like Maurits van Nassau):

I think it is a decent approximation although I might make it so that the "chain" (?) around his "Necklace" (??) goes underneath his jacket but that is a minor issue, the only other thing I am still iffy on is what exactly to do about his tie. I plan on giving him Lincoln's tie, however I don't know if I should go with the collar, or without collar, like in these images:

You may say, "well Capo, he doesn't really have the collar over his tie, so why do it for the LH?" and I would say; because it might look stupid. So what do you guys think (about everything I said here)?

EDIT: And if you preferred the other one don't worry, I'll put them both in the upload when he is finished.

 

[Vortilex]

Try doing a version without the collar. Other than that, it looks great!