The Civilization Elimination FINALS

[vexing]

Too highly valued in the present poll, they are quite useless (unless anyone can prove me wrong) at higher level such as immortal.

proof and a little more.
babylon can do some amazingly early rushes (steel or rifles), which are effective even in deity level play.

 

[mrlovanhey]

Arabia 10
Babylon 22
Inca 13 +1
Japan 12
Siam 2 -2
Songhai 21
Denmark 22

 

[Kevin J]

Arabia 10
Babylon 22
Inca 13
Japan 12
Siam 4
Songhai 21
Denmark 22

I think people just resent Siam for winning the first round. It's head and shoulders above several of these civs.

 

[Sparthage]

I think people just resent Siam for winning the first round. It's head and shoulders above several of these civs.

 

[swmaniac]

Arabia 10
Babylon 22
Inca 13
Japan 12
Siam 3
Songhai 21
Denmark 20

Not my vote, correcting the list.

Kevin, you missed a post I think.

 

[Kevin J]

Oh, may bad - thanks for the correction. EDIT: It was just bad math, not a missed post. I blame having to remove the -2s! (Not really, just sloppiness on my part)

 

[Randall Turner]

I think people just resent Siam for winning the first round. It's head and shoulders above several of these civs.

Kevin, Siam is good, but in the first round there was cheating by pro-Siam people, it should have been a much closer round - they buggered it.

And I'm not saying you did, just that it happened.

Not disputing that it might be better than its showing here, nor that you don't have every right to vote for them - just keep it to one (or two even) times a day.

 

[Megalomano]

Arabia 10
Babylon 22
Inca 13
Japan 12
Siam 4
Songhai 19
Denmark 20

Why are the Songhai that high? MPM are not that good imho

 

[Randall Turner]

Why are the Songhai that high? MPM are not that good imho

It's because they are across-the-board strong (culture, economics, warfare), are incredibly situationally insensitive (above, plus naval ability) but mostly, I think, because they "scale up" better than any other civ.

At marathon/huge, nobody can beat them. Sp or Mp.

I think they've got a PR problem in that it's logistically impractical to make a video of them showing their strengths in the environment where they really shine, ie, big games. But a lot of people play big games. <shrug>

 

[Kevin J]

Kevin, Siam is good, but in the first round there was cheating by pro-Siam people, it should have been a much closer round - they buggered it.

And I'm not saying you did, just that it happened.

Not disputing that it might be better than its showing here, nor that you don't have every right to vote for them - just keep it to one (or two even) times a day.

I haven't seen anyone voting more than once a day other than that brief bit in the other thread where a new voter didn't understand the rules. Didn't someone correct that mistake in the numbers anyway?

Today was actually the first time I voted for Siam - they have been dropping faster than I think is warranted - a very strong civ, one of the best for many win conditions. It's not a civ I particularly enjoy playing however, despite it's strength -- it lacks some of the fun factor of other civs. But very strong nonetheless.

EDIT: I'd genuinely like to see Songhai win, but I'd also like the list to reflect a rough semblance of the civs strengths. That's generally what guides my voting - which one is lower than it should be? +1. Which one is higher than it should be? -2. That's all.

 

[Randall Turner]

I haven't seen anyone voting more than once a day other than that brief bit in the other thread where a new voter didn't understand the rules. Didn't someone correct that mistake in the numbers anyway?

NO. And that's the problem.

I posted a "correction" that immediately got overwritten, along with my vote, then when nobody saw fit to re-enter the corrected values, threw up my hands and went, "I'm not the forum police".

It was a huge swing. +6 Siam, -5 Songhai. (After which I opted out of the thread, which I guess made it even bigger.)

Edit: your voting isn't an issue.

Edit2: read this page, go down to where I grumped, then voted again, and check the next few posts...
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=10524425#post10524425

 

[Optical]

Arabia 10
Babylon 22
Inca 11
Japan 12
Siam 4
Songhai 20
Denmark 20

 

[Babri]

Arabia 11 (+)
Babylon 22
Inca 11
Japan 12
Siam 2 (-)
Songhai 20
Denmark 20

 

[The_Quasar]

Arabia 11
Babylon 22
Inca 9
Japan 12
Siam 3
Songhai 20
Denmark 20

 

[filli_noctus]

Arabia 9
Babylon 22
Inca 9
Japan 12
Siam 3
Songhai 20
Denmark 21

 

[stazba]

Arabia 7 (-2)
Babylon 22
Inca 9
Japan 13 (+1)
Siam 3
Songhai 20
Denmark 21

 

[sukritact]

Arabia 7
Babylon 22
Inca 7
Japan 13
Siam 4
Songhai 20
Denmark 21

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[renetika]

Arabia 7
Babylon 23
Inca 7
Japan 11
Siam 4
Songhai 20
Denmark 21

 

[Glassmage]

Arabia 7
Babylon 23
Inca 5
Japan 11
Siam 5
Songhai 20
Denmark 21

 

[janboruta]

Arabia 7
Babylon 21
Inca 5
Japan 11
Siam 5
Songhai 20
Denmark 22