Pieman
Prince
Er, odd problem here. Whenever I start the Biblical World scenario, the game always says "You have been defeated!!!" before I can even start the game...
Dear Lokolus, sorry to disappoint, but your Biblical World scenario map is very different from the actual history.
In your scenario you are showing the kingdom of Israel roughly as powerful as Egypt, whereas in reality Israel around 1000bc only had the population of approximately 80,000 people, compared to 1,200,000 in Egypt and hundreds of thousands in the Phoenician and Philistine city states.
King David, if he ever existed in reality (which has not been sufficiently proven), was not the king of a powerful United Kingdom, but a warlord of a tiny area called Judah, populated by 15,000 people. Jerusalem was not a shiny capital, but a small settlement of up to 1,000 inhabitants.
Neither David nor any other representative of the Davidian dynasty had ever controlled any part of the kingdom of Israel. In reality Israel was an independent Canaanite state ruled by the Omride dynasty, whose main gods were Baal and Asherah, not Yahweh. It's amazing that you're not even showing Samaria/Shomron, the actual capital of Israel, on your map.
The United Kingdom of Judah and Israel had never existed in reality. It is a biblical myth. To learn more, you might be interested to check The Bible Unearthed,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_Unearthed
Dear Lokolus, sorry to disappoint, but your Biblical World scenario map is very different from the actual history.
In your scenario you are showing the kingdom of Israel roughly as powerful as Egypt, whereas in reality Israel around 1000bc only had the population of approximately 80,000 people, compared to 1,200,000 in Egypt and hundreds of thousands in the Phoenician and Philistine city states.
King David, if he ever existed in reality (which has not been sufficiently proven), was not the king of a powerful United Kingdom, but a warlord of a tiny area called Judah, populated by 15,000 people. Jerusalem was not a shiny capital, but a small settlement of up to 1,000 inhabitants.
Neither David nor any other representative of the Davidian dynasty had ever controlled any part of the kingdom of Israel. In reality Israel was an independent Canaanite state ruled by the Omride dynasty, whose main gods were Baal and Asherah, not Yahweh. It's amazing that you're not even showing Samaria/Shomron, the actual capital of Israel, on your map.
The United Kingdom of Judah and Israel had never existed in reality. It is a biblical myth. To learn more, you might be interested to check The Bible Unearthed,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_Unearthed
I realize this post is about three years old, but I thought that I should add that (1) the history the person quoted above presented is not entirely accurate either (we actually don't know what the "facts" are, because we don't have evidence to credit or discredit a theory entirely) (2) whether or not Yaweh (actually, the person above means to say "El" in the context of his discussion) was worshipped is totally irrelevant to what this scenario is about; (3) the kingdom was very briefly united, and even if it was not, that would not make for interesting gameplay (4) I believe we must be very careful in creating scenarios that "mimic" reality, because we cannot truly do that. For example, if we tried to recreate the Persian empire on this game, it would not work. Pure and simple. Read about the amazing advances and the lightning fast conquering pace that the Persians employed, and you'll see why Persia, as it is in the game, could never be what it was in reality.
Nice scenario, although I would get rid of the desert (replace with plain/desert mixture, so that cities can survive there to mimic history) and I would also not have so many cities crammed in one place (again, although accurate, it does not enhance gameplay, IMO).
the history the person quoted above presented is not entirely accurate either (we actually don't know what the "facts" are, because we don't have evidence to credit or discredit a theory entirely)
we do have plenty of evidence to restore the actual history. the recent archeological advances have not been widely popularized, because they utterly refute 90% of the biblical myths. yet the facts are easily accessible. you can borrow these books if you have access to any north american university library. or you can simply buy them on amazon.com:in ancient history we don't have facts, history itself is quite a controversial thing, because our sources are based on archeology and written records each individual can interpret it as he thinks.
nope. never happened, sorrythe kingdom was very briefly united
at least we should trythat would not make for interesting gameplay (4) I believe we must be very careful in creating scenarios that "mimic" reality, because we cannot truly do that.
dear Lokolus, thank you for saying that.and now we are talking about gameplay and not about history
at least we should try![]()
i love this game because at times it does quite accurately mimic the actual history. in fact, i believe that a judah/jerusalem scenario based on the historical events would be much more interesting. harder, but more interesting.
i wrote my original post exactly because i know that a lot of people tend to confuse the actual history and the biblical myth. i found it misleading that a lot of people, after looking at your scenario, will think that the mythical united kingdom of israel and judah (which only existed in the minds of the biblical redactors) was IN REALITY, in the actual history, stronger than the egyptian and assirian empires.
Now that you have admitted that your scenario is based solely on the biblical myth, i believe the issue is successfully resolved![]()
only if you insistnow if you don't mind can you show me the part that I admitted that this scenaio is based on the "Biblical myth"?