The Coalition of Citizens

Mr. G said:
Okay, this convinced me, I'll join up. I'm a newbie definately to these parts, and I'm having some trouble figuring out exactly what is going on.

What Constitution is actually in effect here, and where can I find it? I've looked through and seen some legal problems, something about double users and a good deal about triumvate vs. flexible, but there isn't much definate on what is official. In that vein, has the game even started yet? Is there a save anywhere or are we still discussing settings?

Thanks in advance for taking some time to answer a newcomer's questions.
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There was a big controversy. Basically a few election polls and regular polls were fixed by someone with 12 identical accounts. We have now decided, after revoting on government type, to go with Tri gov. Also, no the game hasn't started yet, but it should start soon. all settings have already been agreed upon, dig through the polls forum for the results. hope this helps. :)
 
Okay, I'm back from my 'extended' vacation. I've updated the members list (Yes, BCLG... I put you down as a vet).

Alittle behind on current affairs, but I can fix that in a few hours. Alittle tired at the moment though so I'm going to get some sleep first, and then try the catching up. (you try driving from Houston to St. Louis... it's a 14 hour drive!)
 
Ok, I haven't joined this party, but I had a question for the "experienced" players around here.

How many people are usually still playing by the time we get to the end of the game?

I ask, because in the CoL, it says that someone may not have multiple elected positions. But someone can hold an elected position and be a deputy for a different department. I'm not against anyone, nor do I doubt their ability to do both jobs, but by holding two jobs they prevent someone else from having an important job in the government. I wanted to be a deputy to gain some on the job training. But I realize this may be allowed because of the amount of drop off you must have. Before I bring up a seperate thread to debate a CoL ammendment, I wanted to gauge some veteran's thoughts on this.
 
GeorgeOP said:
How many people are usually still playing by the time we get to the end of the game?

I ask, because in the CoL, it says that someone may not have multiple elected positions. But someone can hold an elected position and be a deputy for a different department. I'm not against anyone, nor do I doubt their ability to do both jobs, but by holding two jobs they prevent someone else from having an important job in the government. I wanted to be a deputy to gain some on the job training. But I realize this may be allowed because of the amount of drop off you must have. Before I bring up a seperate thread to debate a CoL ammendment, I wanted to gauge some veteran's thoughts on this.
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Usually by the end of the game, the 'active' population has dropped. However, it has almost never been enough to bring the game to a halt. The drop this time around will be significantly lower, sense this is a brand new CivIV democracy game.

You are correct, there is no purpose in allowing a leader to hold deputy poistions also. Maybe in later DG's we should think about it, but not any time soon.

Challange the law, you have my full support.

Also, were not a Political Party.. just a citizen group.
 
Thanks for helping us noobs Strider. However I am very concerned about how certain players....
  • A.Treat other citizens. I presume we can take care of this during elections however is there anything we as citizens can do now?
    and
  • B. Why they are not forthright with the citizens about turnplay. Why would this be non-interactive?
Here's a post to my partee members in our thread. Please help me understand the way of demogames.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3603227&postcount=197
 
GeorgeOP said:
Ok, I haven't joined this party, but I had a question for the "experienced" players around here.

How many people are usually still playing by the time we get to the end of the game?

I ask, because in the CoL, it says that someone may not have multiple elected positions. But someone can hold an elected position and be a deputy for a different department. I'm not against anyone, nor do I doubt their ability to do both jobs, but by holding two jobs they prevent someone else from having an important job in the government. I wanted to be a deputy to gain some on the job training. But I realize this may be allowed because of the amount of drop off you must have. Before I bring up a seperate thread to debate a CoL ammendment, I wanted to gauge some veteran's thoughts on this.
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Start a new thread whenever you feel, being a deputy is a great way to gain experience, however the holding the 2 jobs thing probably wont become a major factor till the next DG as civ4 is still a fairly new release so should keep getting members.
 
Whomp said:
Treat other citizens. I presume we can take care of this during elections however is there anything we as citizens can do now?
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Not really, short of a leader committing some major crime, impeachment is near impossible. However, you could try forcing some results with just sheer numbers. 6-7 votes in an election can sway the tally, use that to your advantage ;).

Whomp said:
Why they are not forthright with the citizens about turnplay. Why would this be non-interactive?
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It should not be non-interactive, there really is no reason not to be forward with information. Unless of course, that information involves an illegal action, or is not known by the person being asked.

Whomp said:
Here's a post to my partee members in our thread. Please help me understand the way of demogames.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3603227&postcount=197
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I just got back from a two month location, I've yet to glance at the new constitution. Mainly because I'm wondering if I really want to look at it, and wether or not my looking at it would benefit the game as a whole. Anyway, I have no idea what the current constitution is made up of, but what I've seen hasn't given me any confidence in it.

Getting information from the save onto the forums, for players who can not access the save (for whatever reason), has been a problem in the past. It should have been a focus of this constitution. I do not see this being the result of a determined effort to finally fix this problem.

What can be done? Push for legislation (that works) that gives citizens access to information on the forum.
 
Thanks Strider. I'm sure the Idiot Partee will make sure this does not stand. ;)
 
Strider said:
I just got back from a two month location, I've yet to glance at the new constitution. Mainly because I'm wondering if I really want to look at it, and wether or not my looking at it would benefit the game as a whole. Anyway, I have no idea what the current constitution is made up of, but what I've seen hasn't given me any confidence in it.
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Im just playing from my memory of civ3 demogame tbh.
 
BCLG100 said:
I'm just playing from my memory of civ3 demogame tbh.
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I guess that always works. :lol:

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Anyway, before I left, I was planning on putting together a series of guides to help newer players in the game. I've sense them lost all train of thought on these guides, but I still want to make some.

If your interested in helping, send me a PM or just reply in this thread.
 
I'll help but right now am swamped with schoolwork nd girlfriend nd life etc but ill do what i can.
 
Okay, I've got some of the first help thread I wanted to make. There isn't much to it, mainly because I'm not in the best of moods now and couldn't hold still long enough to think of anything.

How do I join?
To join the game, they're is first two things you must do. One is sign up inside of the Citizen Registry found here. The second step is to join the usergroup, for you can vote inside of polls and elections. You do this by going to your User Control Panel (User CP), and requesting to join the Civ4 Democracy Game group.

How do I get started?
You do not need to read the current constitution & code of laws to play the game correctly. Just know one simple rule: You can not play the save, or take any action within the save that is not reversible. As long as you remember that, you can play the entire game without reading the rules. To get a good start inside of the demogame, just post your comments inside of the various discussion threads inside of the citizens forum. The better quality your post, the more likely you will get recognized. You don't have to make several posts in rapid succession, nor do you have to reply to every current discussion thread. One, good quality, response will get you plenty of recognition.

What are the different sub-forums?
The Citizens sub-forum is for game discussions, citizens groups, and other misc. threads. The goverment sub-forum contains threads related to the management of the democracy game government. The polls forum contains all polls, over game issues, constitution amendments, or other misc. things.

The warm-up sub-forum and Multi-Team demogame sub-forum are differant games, and seperate from the democracy game. You can visit those two forums for more information about their purposes.

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If you have any more questions be free to send me a private message, or you can ask in this thread.
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I edited the proposed help thread above, any other comments?
 
well just its placement really, not many people are going to be seeing it on the 5th page so could add it to the first post/make a new thread.
 
BCLG100 said:
well just its placement really, not many people are going to be seeing it on the 5th page so could add it to the first post/make a new thread.
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I will make a new thread for it inside of the main forum, this is just the creation portion ;).
 
Okay, once I get ahold of Chieftess (she's likely still staring amazed at the snow), I'll post the help thread inside of the main forum.

Still open to those suggestion things though! So get to thinking!
 
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