The coming hissy fit

[El_Machinae]

So, suppose a group of terrorists are successful in conducting some moderate-scale devastation on this anniversary of 9/11. Blowing up a bomb at a mall or shooting down some airliners, for example. I'm not predicting it will happen, of course. But it's something we could easily imagine.

Are you going to be part of the group that throws a hissy fit and endeavours to over-react? Are you going to foster action that will significantly alter some aspects of your life? Other peoples' lives?

Conversely, are you going to be part of the group actively rejecting mass hysteria, trying to put the risks/damages into perspective for others?

What if it's a coordinated series of destructive events (across different countries)?

What types of reactions do you think are the most useful/validated?

 

[George2816]

So, suppose a group of terrorists are successful in conducting some moderate-scale devastation on this anniversary of 9/11. Blowing up a bomb at a mall or shooting down some airliners, for example. I'm not predicting it will happen, of course. But it's something we could easily imagine.

I can see most american's blaming Iran and bush claiming it was iran and then claiming he will invade them for all those dead "americans!"

Are you going to be part of the group that throws a hissy fit and endeavours to over-react? Are you going to foster action that will significantly alter some aspects of your life? Other peoples' lives?

No

Conversely, are you going to be part of the group actively rejecting mass hysteria, trying to put the risks/damages into perspective for others?

most people don't really care about the odds about anything and most american's are too stupid to think for themself

What if it's a coordinated series of destructive events (across different countries)?

What if aliens come to earth tomorrow?

What types of reactions do you think are the most useful/validated?

Blaming bush? WHen american's claim that fighting terror in Iraq is good they are deluding themself!

 

[El_Machinae]

What if aliens come to earth tomorrow?

Usually when someone sets a scenario and then asks a series of questions, they are looking for answers.

If there is then another scenario presented, convention is that the same questions are being applied to the modified scenario. It's not just a random question, but a rephrasing of conditions.

Thanks for your answers.

 

[Trajan12]

Conversely, are you going to be part of the group actively rejecting mass hysteria, trying to put the risks/damages into perspective for others?

Yes but I have my patience limits. Then after this I'll be part of the group that doesn't really give a hoot anymore.

 

[Ansar]

Are you going to be part of the group that throws a hissy fit and endeavours to over-react? Are you going to foster action that will significantly alter some aspects of your life? Other peoples' lives?

No.

Conversely, are you going to be part of the group actively rejecting mass hysteria, trying to put the risks/damages into perspective for others?

I'll be part of the group who doesn't care.

What if it's a coordinated series of destructive events (across different countries)?

Then everyone gets mad.

The country that made the attacks is sure to get some complaints in the future.

What types of reactions do you think are the most useful/validated?

Well, if such happens, I hope stores have huge sales on their items.

 

[Godwynn]

most people don't really care about the odds about anything and most american's are too stupid to think for themself

Oh, the irony.

 

[skadistic]

I will be the one who calls for quick overwhelming counter strikes.

 

[MobBoss]

Is there such a thing as an over-reaction to large numbers of people being killed via a terrorist attack?

 

[bathsheba666]

Is there such a thing as an over-reaction to large numbers of people being killed via a terrorist attack?

Well, duhhh, invading Iraq surely qualifies.

 

[MobBoss]

Well, duhhh, invading Iraq surely qualifies.

Again, we didnt invade Iraq because of 9/11. Please refer to the congressional vote on the matter....

 

[skadistic]

Well, duhhh, invading Iraq surely qualifies.

I thought we invaded for the oil.

 

[bathsheba666]

Again, we didnt invade Iraq because of 9/11. Please refer to the congressional vote on the matter....

Yeah, right....

 

[El_Machinae]

Well, that's a good example then. Invading an only-obliquely related country is clearly an over-reaction.

 

[skadistic]

Well, that's a good example then. Invading an only-obliquely related country is clearly an over-reaction.

Only if thats why we invaded. Which it isn't. I can give over a dozen reasons why invasion of Iraq was warranted and legal. And when Bush gave his speech did he say it was because of 9-11?

 

[MobBoss]

Well, lets ask the more pertinent question. Since the invasion of Afghanistan and the overthrow of the Taliban WAS a direct result of 9/11....do you consider the invasion of Afghanistan and resulting regime change a 'hissy fit overreaction'?

 

[El_Machinae]

Yeah! That's a very good question.

Considering that it was the source of the actual terrorists and that there were training systems in place (gov't approved!) to generate more, then 9/11 seems to have been an actual declaration of war by the Taliban.

There are concerns that Afghanistan hasn't been conducted properly, but I'm not exploring those.

Only if thats why we invaded. Which it isn't. I can give over a dozen reasons why invasion of Iraq was warranted and legal. And when Bush gave his speech did he say it was because of 9-11?

Skadistic, I'm really not arguing about Iraq! Honestly! I'm not exploring that at all this thread.

There have been a HOST of historical over-reactions to terrorism. I'm just wondering how many of them will be repeated. I'm more interested in reading what over-reactions you wouldn't like to avoid next time

 

[skadistic]

Nukes would be bad. Targeting civilians would be bad.

Attacking nations that harbour and fund the terrorists is fine by me.

 

[EdCase]

Only if thats why we invaded. Which it isn't. I can give over a dozen reasons why invasion of Iraq was warranted and legal. And when Bush gave his speech did he say it was because of 9-11?

No he didn't. BUT.... we never did find any WMDs either.

Meanwhile people continue to die in a war that has no purpose, in a country that has no real identity as such, for a goal most don't even care about.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Skadistic, I'm really not arguing about Iraq! Honestly! I'm not exploring that at all this thread.

There have been a HOST of historical over-reactions to terrorism. I'm just wondering how many of them will be repeated. I'm more interested in reading what over-reactions you wouldn't like to avoid next time

A better example of action and over-reaction might be the assasination of Archduke Ferdinand and the First World War. Another could be the assasination of Ernst Vom Rath, and the ensuing Kristallnacht.

 

[MobBoss]

Yeah! That's a very good question.

Considering that it was the source of the actual terrorists and that there were training systems in place (gov't approved!) to generate more, then 9/11 seems to have been an actual declaration of war by the Taliban.

There are concerns that Afghanistan hasn't been conducted properly, but I'm not exploring those.

So, correct me if I am wrong here, but invading a country because they backed/supported the terrorist attack isnt throwing a hissy fit and is actually a sensible response?

Just want to get your thoughts clearly on this.