The despotic tyranny of the school system

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This is astounding, nay, shocking beyond words. That advanced-level students of History in the original land of the English would now know two words which I knew at a much earlier age in spite of not being a native speaker, and that they have the shameless gall to attempt to justify this outrage, is a marker of a say day for the language.

Eh-Level History

Some of our country’s “advanced”-level students of history have been complaining about a question which appeared in an examination: “How far do you agree that Hitler’s role 1933-45 was one of despotic tyranny?”. [1] The phrase “despotic tyranny” has caused some upset:

“t is elitist . . . to assume every history student is going to have come across such a term.” [2]

“The use of the term ‘despotic tyranny’ excludes students of a lower ability.” [3]


At least it seems that some of our “advanced” students have learnt the egalitarian ideology well, if nothing else.

“I have been offered a place at Cambridge to study English literature and I was not familiar with the word ‘despotic’ at all despite intensive revision and reading around the topic.” [4]

“I understand that to be an A level history student you need to have a wide grasp of specialised vocabulary but can i realy be blamed for never hearing the word despotic before? I have never read it, let alone had it taught to me and i was under the impression that exams should be based on a student’s knowledge of a topic not on their knowedge of a word.” [5]​

One unhappy mother summed up the complaint rather well:

“This was an exam on Hitler and history . . . not on swallowing a dictionary.” [6]​

Doubtless it is sometimes difficult to determine the meaning of the various usages of words and phrases. I, for instance, have trouble understanding what “advanced” means.

[1] As reported by Alexis Thompson, “History students confused by Hitler ‘despotic tyranny’ exam question”, News Shopper Online, 19th June 2009. (H/T: Laban Tall, “The Best Educated Generation in History”, UK Commentators (weblog), 26th June 2009.)
[2]-[6] “HistoryStudent”, “JohnS”, “Bexleystudent09”, “cmarie”, “Mother Sidcup”, commenting on Alexis Thompson’s report. (I have spared the reader a rash of sic-ness.)


 
“How far do you agree that Hitler’s role 1933-45 was one of despotic tyranny?”

The question is a bit awkwardly formed to me. "Hitler's role was one of a tyranny"? Surely, he was a tyrant, not a manifestation of the concept of tyranny itself?

"Despotic tyranny" is a bit redundant, though it might be used if we accept the word "tyranny" as morally neutral. Pisistrates of Athens was a tyrant, but, while far from being a pleasant character, I wouldn't describe him as that "tyrannical" in usual sense of the word.

But if that incident is true - WHUT.
 
How on earth do you major in history, yet never come across "Despot," "Despotism" or "Despotic" ?
 
This is astounding, nay, shocking beyond words. That advanced-level students of History in the original land of the English would now know two words which I knew at a much earlier age in spite of not being a native speaker, and that they have the shameless gall to attempt to justify this outrage, is a marker of a say day for the language.
So you're complaining about lowering standards in the school system. I agree. The controversy about those words is silly.

How on earth do you major in history, yet never come across "Despot," "Despotism" or "Despotic" ?
Just for fun: I'm not a major in history, but the first time I heard of the word "despot" is from Civ 1. That was when I was a teenager.
 
I bet more Indians know what it means than Americans. And, yes, it is truly sad in both cases...

I think I remember the word being mentioned in my 8th grade history class when we discussed enlightened despotism as an idealized form of government. I'm fairly certain I already knew what it meant from reading books.
 
Just for fun: I'm not a major in history, but the first time I heard of the word "despot" is from Civ 1. That was when I was a teenager.

These guys obviously never played Civ. :goodjob:
 
Just read the students' options here. WTH, man, WTH.
 
Despotic (solo?) tyranny = dictatorship, right?

I hope I'm not one of the dumb ones!

Spoiler :
Ok, I looked up despotic:

2 a : a system of government in which the ruler has unlimited power

So the guy could argue that Hitler's power had some limit. Realistically, we cannot 100% agree... did he had the power to kill his 10 closest advisors and survive? OR, more sophomorically, did he have the power to rule the world.
 
To be fair, these aren't university students 'majoring' in history, they're Sixth Formers, and having done AS-Level History I don't recall any situations where the word 'despotic' cropped up; even if it did, in order to answer that question you'd have to have a deep understanding of what 'despotic' actually means, in order to know the alternatives for comparison, for example, so I can understand the students' frustration at it being plonked into an important exam question. And of course we all know what it is, 'cause we're Civvers, we've all plodded along in Despotism waiting for better options.

That said, if I recall these exams correctly, there's a choice of about three questions for each topic, so, you know, they could've just ignored that question.
 
Despotic (solo?) tyranny = dictatorship, right?

I hope I'm not one of the dumb ones!

Well, despotism and tyranny both mean "dictatorship".
 
Tyranny is possible by many means other than dictatorship.

Tyranny /= dictatorship

Dictatorship = tyranny

Spoiler :
Despotic tyranny = dictatorship (despotic = all power in single leader, not in "leadership")


There are only semantic arguments that remove 100% agree as an option for the student's reply (see above) - he's being a smart-ass. The student is a practicioner of rasism; he may be a full-on rasist.
 
Actually the first time I heard the word despotism mentioned in an educational context was as a freshman in college. By my political theory professor. He had to define it for the class after he said it.

I of course knew despotism much earlier thanks to civ 3.
 
Despotic tyranny = dictatorship (despotic = all power in leader)

Well, see "dictatorship of the proletariat". The term itself is not oxymoronic.

How can a person interested in history (and a student of history should be one) not know the term "enlightened despotism"?
 
Well, see "dictatorship of the proletariat". The term itself is not oxymoronic.

It is as oxymoronic as "dictatorship of the bougie".

Neither votes in blocks, welcome to the 21st century.
 
This was an absolutely horrible prompt question.

Making that clear, then, I'd first like to say that just because idiots disagree with something doesn't make it right. So yes, not knowing what "despot" means - that's not much of an excuse for anything. However, even though people are coming it at from a silly perspective, the question is still poorly worded and it seems unlikely to me it is effective in testing the material one would expect. I'd imagine the purpose of this question, better written, is something like:

"Discuss the political structure of the Third Reich from 1933-1945. How was power distributed between the Fuhrer as head of state and other arms of the government - the military, etc...?"

Now I know I'm not an expert on the topic, but the first thing is, I really have to question whether all these (high school/equivalent) students really had weeks of curriculum discussing Hitler's government and Cabinet and all. If not, as it would seem very unlikely for high school students to have a whole history course on a narrow period, say the two World Wars, then no form of this question should ever have appeared on the test at all, if the purpose was generally as phrased above, the distribution of power in the Third Reich.

Now, we come to the fact that the question as worded seems to encourage entirely different responses. If the test involves individual feedback/records of how you scored on essays, I would seriously have been tempted to be one of the students going after controversy. I'd assume that any student who's thesis was "Hitler was not a tyrant because his and the Reich's actions were just in removing the sin of inferior humans, which is a tyranny stemming from higher powers than man, etc..." could still get full credit for the essay. Likewise, a student who compared the meaning of tyranny in relation to current political parties or whatever should get credit assuming a coherent/well-written essay. In other words, it is profoundly stupid to ask "Do you agree Hitler was a tyrant" since the question and the grading of the exam is either inherently biased, or the responses students could give would have nothing to do with actual knowledge of history that the overall exam was meant to test. (Of course, this is why many organizations never reveal or release grading criteria, subscores, etc... - so a student who wrote something "disagreeable" can be given a 20% or whatever and can't sue, since you can't prove it's been graded wrong. Don't know what the case is here)
 
Its a bit of an ambigious strangely framed question in any case..
 
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