The destruction of Civilization?

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John Arvid

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My name is John. I have played all the civilization games since 1995.

I remember civilization II when you could build 250 cities and empires echoing the true past with the genuine city names for those ancient empires. You could build roads, railroads and irrigations that looked like true roads, railroads, irrigations. I remember civilization IV when you could build monster-armies with 40 units all on the same spot. You could move them immediatly and the number of cities were large. The true names of the empire's cities were according to history. The outlook of the leaders were noble and correct.



What do we have now? Civilization VI. Cartoonish junkies are supposed to look like ancient leaders. They look like psychopathic drunks all of them. You cannot move a unit two tiles for 200 years!! You cannot even move several units at the same spot. The cities for Jagellonian Poland for example did not include Szczecin or Wroclaw. They belonged to Prussia/Austria in those days and were named Stettin and Breslau. Lisbon was not a city state but a part of the Portuguese colonial empire. Germany in the past did not end at the Oder/Neisse line but included Königsberg, Stettin, Breslau for example. There was no Canadian or Australian empire, they were part of the British empire until the middle of the 20th century. The native americans or the polynesians did not start an advanced civilization. I do not know how much fake news and ignorant gibberish the American billionaires have consumed. But they ought to study history and learn how to program bigger maps and learn how to stock more than one unit at the same tile. The history of humanity deserves something grand and epic. Not some cartoonish idioteque.
 
So you dont like the look of the game. Good for you.

Some people like it, some people dont, some people dont care.

There is no better or worse here.

Maybe play the game if you like it, dont play if if you dont. And get over it.

Regarding all your historical complains like "The native americans or the polynesians did not start an advanced civilization"...
And? Do you have any point? Civ is not a history game. And this is out of place.
We all know that Lisboa is a Portuguese City, and most people understand, that not every detail can be added into the game, and all civ iterations made these concessions.

This has nothing to do with Civ 6 anymore. At this point you just want to complain and to be angry at a game. There is a lot of people who have legitimate points to criticise the game. But, besides not liking the art style, you have not made any reasonable point at all.

I like the game, and have been playing since civ I. Some thigs I would like to improve, some things i dont like. I will play as long as I enjoy it. But, honestly I dont see the point of your post.

Ps: I am from Galicia, which was part of the Galaic-Portuguese kingdom. And Im not ofended with Lisboa being a city state. I also cant think if a more ludicrous reason to complain. And the same with all those other things that seem to make you angry
 
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My name is John. I have played all the civilization games since 1995.

I remember civilization II when you could build 250 cities and empires echoing the true past with the genuine city names for those ancient empires. You could build roads, railroads and irrigations that looked like true roads, railroads, irrigations. I remember civilization IV when you could build monster-armies with 40 units all on the same spot. You could move them immediatly and the number of cities were large. The true names of the empire's cities were according to history. The outlook of the leaders were noble and correct.



What do we have now? Civilization VI. Cartoonish junkies are supposed to look like ancient leaders. They look like psychopathic drunks all of them. You cannot move a unit two tiles for 200 years!! You cannot even move several units at the same spot. The cities for Jagellonian Poland for example did not include Szczecin or Wroclaw. They belonged to Prussia/Austria in those days and were named Stettin and Breslau. Lisbon was not a city state but a part of the Portuguese colonial empire. Germany in the past did not end at the Oder/Neisse line but included Königsberg, Stettin, Breslau for example. There was no Canadian or Australian empire, they were part of the British empire until the middle of the 20th century. The native americans or the polynesians did not start an advanced civilization. I do not know how much fake news and ignorant gibberish the American billionaires have consumed. But they ought to study history and learn how to program bigger maps and learn how to stock more than one unit at the same tile. The history of humanity deserves something grand and epic. Not some cartoonish idioteque.
America and a fair few other original (Civ1) civs didn't exist in remotely the same form as Civ portrays them in 4000 BC.

Units have always taken literally years or decades to move a single tile or two, in game terms.

"What do we have now?" Nothing that strays as far from the original concept (and its historical fidelity) as you think.
 
"The native americans or the polynesians did not start an advanced civilization"

Chatokia, Hawaii, the Tonga Empire - they may not had been 'great' but they were definitely on par with advanced civilizations elsewhere. This excludes the Inca, the Maya, the Aztecs, Toltecs, Olmecs, Mexica with their literal cities of stone...and there's the Amazonian civilization.

The Native Americans encountered by the West were off their prime. NA was basically Post-Apoc, not aided by the Columbian Exchange. MesoAmerica suffered the yoke, the new world diseases, the *old* world diseases that mutated...and the Amazonians basically disappeared a fingersnap before the Europeans came.

For someone who gibbers 'But they ought to study history', you sound like your last class on History was in '89 or so. Not helped by cheap Hollywood stuff peddled out for cost-benefit algorithms than historical accuracy....
 
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