"The Devil didn't die... It was only asleep..."

[Red Door]

Note that Bush allows you to say that. Castro, not so much. Besides are we forgetting the little civil war in Angola that Castro encourage that killed way more people than Bush's war in Iraq.

You mean the one that the United States almost got involved in except for Congress?

 

[ParkCungHee]

Castro is no more responsible for the Angolan conflict than Bush is for Freedom of Speech. Both are preexisting conditions. The first Castro merely took advantage of, and the second, Bush has done everything he can to limit.

Freedom of speech was a pre-existing condition before Castro got his hands on it. I think the very fact that you feel safe and confident making that post shows that Bush has not done all he can to limit freedom of speech.
The Angolan conflict pre-existed, but he added to the killing immensely.

 

[ParkCungHee]

You mean the one that the United States almost got involved in except for Congress?

Almost being the key word. If we want to talk almosts we can mention the time Castro almost caused the end of humanity.

 

[Red Door]

Almost being the key word. If we want to talk almosts we can mention the time Castro almost caused the end of humanity.

Funny thing how it was the Soviets that almost caused the end of humanity, not Castro. Castro was a casual observer cheering on the Soviets.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

I guess if Castro is the Devil, Bush must be God.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Funny thing how it was the Soviets that almost caused the end of humanity, not Castro. Castro was a casual observer cheering on the Soviets.

He could have, you know, not let them base the missles? Not to mention since we're talking almosts, there was his buddy Che who regretted not launching every missile that was already based.

Still, if you're best defense of the man is "He didn't nearly cause the end of humanity, he was just cheering it on"...

 

[ParkCungHee]

I guess if Castro is the Devil, Bush must be God.

No Bush is merely incompetent, but there is a difference between a man who enacts foolish policies, and a man who will kill you and your family for questioning said policies.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Even if the foolish policies of the incompetent one kills many more people?

 

[Red Door]

He could have, you know, not let them base the missles? Not to mention since we're talking almosts, there was his buddy Che who regretted not launching every missile that was already based.

Yeah, I'm sure Turkey and Greece could've said the same thing to us.

Still, if you're best defense of the man is "He didn't nearly cause the end of humanity, he was just cheering it on"...

Hey, you can't criticize a man for something he almost did, you can't criticize him for something he did.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Even if the foolish policies of the incompetent one kills many more people?

First of all, this is not "many more people" we're dealing with. Castro's deathtoll is equal to, if not greater then Bush's.
Second of all, there is the slight matter of intent. When Castro kills people for questioning his government, for owning land, or being related to someone who does, thats outright murder.
When Bush kills people in Iraq, because of misguided policy, because of a hopeless optimism, etc. That is at most manslaughter.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Yeah, I'm sure Turkey and Greece could've said the same thing to us.

And what do you suppose the Soviet Union would have done?

Hey, you can't criticize a man for something he almost did, you can't criticize him for something he did.

I can criticize him for things he did, and you were the one who began the inane topic of who was almost worst. But I can certainly criticize him for the things he did. I can criticize him for leaving Cuba in poverty, I can criticize him for shooting children, I can criticize him for creating a living hell hole, and then denying people the right to even leave his animal farm, and watching callously as women and children die trying to escape. I can criticize him for putting a sadistic psycopath in charge of determining people guilt or innocence. I can criticize him for building labor camps all over Cuba. I can criticize him for maintaining a system of Apartheid in his own country.

I can certainly criticize Castro for a lot of things.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

First of all, this is not "many more people" we're dealing with. Castro's deathtoll is equal to, if not greater then Bush's.
Second of all, there is the slight matter of intent. When Castro kills people for questioning his government, for owning land, or being related to someone who does, thats outright murder.

When Bush kills people in Iraq, because of misguided policy, because of a hopeless optimism, etc. That is at most manslaughter.

Ok Park, so according to your theory we've got two equal piles of dead bodies. The dead people on the left were killed with intent, the ones on the right with stupidity. So the killer on the right is morally superior to the killer on the left, because he's stupid.

Although, I dont know how one invades another country without intent.

 

[Red Door]

And what do you suppose the Soviet Union would have done?

You mean, what did they do, because they tried to do the same thing to us? And after the Crisis, we took installations from Turkey, what did they do again?

I can criticize him for things he did, and you were the one who began the inane topic of who was almost worst.

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. I said we almost got in Angola, and if the President got his way, we would have been there.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

Freedom of speech was a pre-existing condition before Castro got his hands on it..

Not comments.

 

[Winner]

Why is Castro, 'The Devil'? Simply because he opposes the United States? Comparing the amount of death and human misery caused by Bush in 8 years, and that caused by Castro in 50, next to Bush, Castro is a cute bare assed little cherub with stubble little wings.

Say that to the thousands he ordered to kill.

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

Say that to the thousands he ordered to kill.

Only thousands? He's got a looong way to go then to catch up to Bush. I'm sure Bush is quite the incarnation of the Devil to a lot of people in Iraq, Palestine, etc.

In what way does a person who kills thousands become worse than a person who has killed more?

Normally I shut up around here, but I couldn't resist.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Say that to the thousands he ordered to kill.

They dont return my phone calls.

 

[Bill3000]

In other news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

 

[amadeus]

Only thousands? He's got a looong way to go then to catch up to Bush. I'm sure Bush is quite the incarnation of the Devil to a lot of people in Iraq, Palestine, etc.

Wait, did Bush get elected as Prime Minister of Israel too, or did you misread from your DailyKos Order of the Day?

 

[Luckymoose]

@ Bozo: I am sick and tired of people bringing lame excuses against George Bush. Leave the man alone and stop hoping on a bandwagon that has no real reason to exist. I hope the democrats win so people like you will be pissed when most of the country hates them.