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EU fumes at rogue Orbán, but struggles to rein him in​


BRUSSELS — When it comes to dealing with Budapest, Brussels’ bark is worse than its bite.
At a meeting on Wednesday, Hungary’s envoy to the EU, Bálint Ódor, took an “unprecedented” verbal beating from his Brussels colleagues over how Budapest has kicked off its turn at the head of the Council of the EU. The meeting lasted over two hours, with Slovakia the only country not taking the floor.
“It’s unprecedented that the presidency would be reprimanded in such a way by all the others,” said one senior EU diplomat, who was granted anonymity to speak about a confidential meeting.
Since Budapest took over the rotating EU presidency last week, Hungarian leader Viktor Orbán has undertaken self-declared “peace missions” to Kyiv, Moscow, Beijing and Washington.
Hungary says it doesn’t know what all the fuss is about.
At a packed press conference in Brussels on Wednesday, Hungary’s EU Minister János Bóka said the discussions “were not on behalf of the EU, these were not conducted based on a mandate from the European institutions, these were not conducted in the name of the European Union or any of its institutions.
“The prime minister is aware of the responsibilities that the presidency of the Council of the EU entails, and in [the] spirit of this responsibility he debriefed the president of the European Council and heads of state and governments on these visits.”
But EU ambassadors pushed back against those claims on Wednesday, echoing many of their leaders who have already publicly condemned the trips.
The envoys noted the “timing and sequencing of the meetings, [the] use of presidency hashtags, and the reaction of [Russian President Vladimir] Putin,” an EU diplomat said, like others in this piece granted anonymity to speak freely. “The lines were clearly and deliberately blurred. And Orbán went counter to the letter and spirit of EUCO conclusions, thereby hurting EU unity,” the diplomat added, referring to summits of EU leaders.
Another EU diplomat marveled that “it took nine days for the Hungarian presidency to lose any smidgen of trust they had left,” adding that Orbán’s “actions are not serving the EU or peace. They play into the hands of Putin and his war project. The Hungarian slogan to ‘make Europe great again’ is more about making Russia great again at this stage.”

What can be done?

European capitals are struggling to go beyond public condemnations of Hungary’s rogue presidency, however.
“In reality, the options are limited,” an EU official said. Changing the order of the presidencies or shortening Hungary’s six-month turn at the helm of the EU might have been options at one point, but are now legally fraught as the presidency is underway, the official said.
Former Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn said the Court of Justice of the EU “would rule against” such moves, while “other countries would fear creating a precedent.”
In the Wednesday meeting not a single ambassador raised the possibility of scrapping the presidency, several EU diplomats said.
But that doesn’t mean there isn’t a lot of anger.
Estonian MEP Riho Terras is rallying support in the European Parliament to call on the bloc’s top leadership to trigger Article 7 of the Treaty on the European Union against Hungary. It’s the most serious political sanction that can be imposed on a member country, and involves suspending its right to vote on EU decisions. But it’s also a nuclear option that European capitals have shied away from so far.
“He’s smart,” the EU official said, referring to Orbán. “He knows exactly how far he can go without risking immediate retaliation.”
Instead, several EU ambassadors threatened “practical consequences” if Orbán continues to pursue his current path, two other EU diplomats said.
The most immediate option would be to boycott the informal meetings of ministers organized by Budapest. At the first Hungarian Council meeting on Tuesday, only eight countries (including Hungary) sent a minister. Several EU ambassadors on Wednesday suggested a boycott of the informal meeting of foreign ministers in Budapest at the end of August.
Bóka played down that possibility during his press conference, saying Hungary has received no indication that other member states won’t be sending ministers to meetings.
But that doesn’t mean retaliation is off the table in future, EU diplomats warned. One described Wednesday’s meeting as a “yellow card.”
Given how fast the situation with Budapest has escalated in just the first fortnight of its presidency, nobody is ruling out even firmer pushback from Brussels if Orbán crosses more red lines, such as in his dealings with former U.S. President Donald Trump.
Brussels may yet consider showing Budapest the red card. For now, the game continues.
 

New far-right group led by Germany’s AfD founded in European Parliament​


A new far-right group, Europe of Sovereign Nations, has been founded in the European Parliament, its newly-elected leader said Wednesday.
The alliance, which counts 25 MEPs among its ranks, is led by Germany’s far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) and Poland’s Confederation, and is also comprised of MEPs from Bulgaria’s Revival, France’s Reconquête, Slovakia’s Republic Movement, Hungary’s Our Home Movement, Lithuania’s People and Justice Union, and the Czech Republic’s Freedom and Direct Democracy.
That means two new far-right groups have been founded in the Parliament in the space of a few days. On Monday, Marine Le Pen’s National Rally and Viktor Orbán’s Fidesz joined forces to create the Patriots for Europe group, which largely replaced the Identity & Democracy group, which is now disbanded.
Europe of Sovereign Nations promises to be more radical than the Patriots.
Centrist and left-wing political groups are expected to impose a cordon sanitaire on both new groups, blocking their members from holding any influential positions in the next five years. The so-called Sovereignists will be the Parliament’s smallest grouping, with a very limited ability to influence legislation. However, one of the group leaders will be entitled to attend the powerful Conference of Presidents meetings, which set the Parliament’s agenda and handle its internal affairs.
The AfD found itself in the political no-man’s land when it was excluded from the ID group ahead of the EU election, following a scandal surrounding Maximilian Krah’s comments about the Nazi era.
AfD MEP Christine Anderson, who was chosen to be the group’s chief whip, told reporters outside the group’s founding meeting on Wednesday in Brussels that it went “extremely well.”
The group’s co-presidents are René Aust from AfD and Stanisław Tyszka from Poland’s Confederation.
The AfD’s controversial lead candidate for the EU election, Krah, is not part of the new group, and remains a non-attached member. Krah reacted with delight to the group’s creation, saying it was the culmination of a project he had long worked on. He said he was “without any resentment” about not being included.
The group’s new secretary-general is Dietmar Holzfeind, who previously worked as the deputy chief secretary-general of the Identity & Democracy grouping.
“We have come together because we share the goal of having a significant impact on Europe’s political future through decisive action and strategic planning,” Aust said Wednesday. “We choose this path not because it is easy, but because it is necessary to realize our shared vision of a strong, united, and forward-looking Europe of Fatherlands.”
Now I feel less bad about my voted mp going to Orban's group...who, btw, is a great friend of António Costa.
 
Didn't take long to get over what that means for Ukraine, eh?
Dude...I must be living rent free in you mind!
I knew from the very beginning what it may mean as I also know that Chega as opposed to our country's far left parties: PCP (these assh*les actually abandoned their seats when Zelensky addressed our parliament via video call), BE, LIVRE, VERDES and PAN; is very much pro Ukraine...so I am waiting to see how will everything pan out in EU parliament in terms of voting related to Ukraine support and sanctioning Russia.
 
Dude...I must be living rent free in you mind!
We're frequent posters in a thread on an Internet forum. Let's not overthink it.

Anyhow, sure, you can wait and see. Just remember - this is what your vote went towards. It's not my problem if you have trouble accepting that.

Everyone can and should vote however they want. But in my opinion moaning about incredibly predictable consequences that anyone anywhere on the political spectrum could've forseen is a problem you created for yourself. The folks you voted for are being perfectly internally-consistent.
 
We're frequent posters in a thread on an Internet forum. Let's not overthink it.

Anyhow, sure, you can wait and see. Just remember - this is what your vote went towards. It's not my problem if you have trouble accepting that.

Everyone can and should vote however they want. But in my opinion moaning about incredibly predictable consequences that anyone anywhere on the political spectrum could've forseen is a problem you created for yourself. The folks you voted for are being perfectly internally-consistent.
Let me live my fantasy:lol:
I don't have a problem accepting that, nor was I moaning, I merely shared an introspection. If Chega EU meps turn out to be bad, then they won't have my vote for the next EU parliament elections. If my compatriots evaluated their vote as I do, there wouldn't be far left meps from my country in the parliament as it's known they have been voting against sanctions on Russia...unless those voters are OK with Russia's attitudes!
 
Dude...I must be living rent free in you mind!
I knew from the very beginning what it may mean as I also know that Chega as opposed to our country's far left parties: PCP (these assh*les actually abandoned their seats when Zelensky addressed our parliament via video call), BE, LIVRE, VERDES and PAN; is very much pro Ukraine...so I am waiting to see how will everything pan out in EU parliament in terms of voting related to Ukraine support and sanctioning Russia.

Actually the EU parliament is fairly irrelevant to those decisions, the council (of heads of state) is the decision making body in regard to common foreign policy.

Whatever they decide on is then ratified by parliament, majority vs. minority. And your PM seems solid pro-Ukraine, so should not be a major problem,

 
Formally the council control foreign policy for the EU. That formality hasn't prevented that german aristicratic imbecile in the Commission from trying to take it over, on behalf of the bureaucracy around her which wants to grow, as all bureaucracies do. It's a free for all, typical of the mess the EU became.
 
The idea is the parliament represents the people of Europe, the council the the member states and the commission the union, or the bureaucracy, if you will.

That’s political theory of course..there is certainly room for improvement 😊
 

EU’s biggest losers hold Ursula von der Leyen’s fate in their hands​

PARIS — The fate of Ursula von der Leyen hangs in the balance — and the EU election’s biggest losers are the unlikely kingmakers.
Every vote will count when the European Commission president attempts to convince just over half of the European Parliament’s 720 MEPs to give her a second term. If she fails in a vote on Thursday, it will plunge the EU into an unprecedented political crisis, sending national leaders back to the drawing board to come up with another candidate and ruining a package of top jobs they hammered out last month.
On paper, it’s tight. To get the 361 votes she needs, von der Leyen has trained her focus mainly on the three groups that supported her back in 2019, when she squeezed through the Parliament by nine votes: her own European People’s Party, the Socialists, and the liberals of Renew.
“I am not a mathematician but I think with the three center forces that are supporting Ursula von der Leyen and that form part of a package deal … we have the numbers,” Pedro López, spokesperson for the parliamentary faction of von der Leyen’s EPP family, said at a press conference Friday.
That’s not a universally held view.
Together the three centrist groups could give her a majority of around 50 MEPs — but that’s only if all those MEPs vote for her in the secret ballot, which is all but guaranteed not to happen. In previous votes for the Commission president, around 13 percent of the informal coalition supporting the candidate has rebelled.
MEPs from all three centrist groups have already gone public to say they won’t vote for von der Leyen. If their votes match their public statements, von der Leyen won’t be able to rely on the likes of Ireland’s Fianna Fáil, France’s Republicans, and liberals in Germany and Romania, among others. Others, such as the French and Italian Socialist delegations, will be hard to convince.
Those worries have driven von der Leyen to hold intensive talks with individual MEPs and political groups in the Parliament, pledging to include their desired policies in her action plan for the next five years.
So far she has held hours-long meetings with her own EPP group, plus the Socialists, liberals and the Greens.
The Socialists will pore over her policy program when it's unveiled publicly Thursday morning, looking for commitments to set up a permanent EU fund like the one the bloc used to help recovery after Covid, plus ambitious policies on social welfare and climate change.
The liberals — one of the biggest losers (a whopping 25 seats) in the June European election that tipped the Parliament rightward — are now driving up the price of their support, realizing that while they have been weakened, von der Leyen still needs their votes.
“We must be taken into consideration as members of this platform, and that means proof and commitments from Ursula von der Leyen and her political family too,” Renew President Valérie Hayer told reporters in the Parliament last week after her MEPs grilled the Commission president-elect.
Renew appears largely content with von der Leyen’s policy direction but is fuming about its reduced stature in the incoming legislature. Having dropped from the third-largest group to fifth-largest, Renew is set to have only two vice-presidents of the Parliament (it had three last time) and the chairs of three mid-weight committees — unless it can strike a last-minute deal with the bigger political families.

‘Talking not dealing’

The Greens — also punished by voters in the election, losing 18 seats — are signaling they’re in a pragmatic frame of mind and are ready to do a deal with von der Leyen.
Responding to the EPP’s López, Greens spokesperson Simon McKeagney said at the same press conference: “I’m not a mathematician either, but I’m surprised if they would have the numbers with three [parties].”
Greens Co-President Terry Reintke said: “We are ready to become part of this majority because we see the danger if the majority would move to the right."
Von der Leyen, though, seems unwilling to strike a formal deal with the Greens, perhaps wary that some in her EPP would be strongly opposed, especially as the EPP has waged a battle against her signature Green Deal policy agenda, seeking to transform it into an industrial policy to make Europe more competitive.
On the other side of the spectrum, the Socialists have spent months pressuring von der Leyen not to strike an accord with the hard-right grouping to the EPP’s right, the European Conservatives and Reformists, which is dominated by Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s MEPs.
The pressure from the Socialists — backed by Renew and the Greens — to apply a cordon sanitaire to the ECR has forced von der Leyen to clarify that there will be no “structural coordination” with the ECR as a whole, as she told the Renew group last week, according to a person in the room.
But von der Leyen is nonetheless looking to attract support from individual ECR MEPs and delegations — not least the 24 Brothers of Italy lawmakers — as long as she believes they support the EU and the rule of law, as well as Ukraine against Russia’s invasion.
ECR Co-President Nicola Procaccini said Thursday he can't see his MEPs voting for von der Leyen at the moment, although much will depend on the ECR group's meeting with her on Tuesday.
“One thing is talking to each other, and another thing is dealing,” said Margaritis Schinas, Greece’s EU commissioner who hails from von der Leyen’s EPP family. “I don’t see any deals with political groups beyond the three."
Other EPP heavyweights, such as former European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, have warned von der Leyen and EPP chief Manfred Weber against courting the support of Meloni’s MEPs.

With even von der Leyen’s own EPP not unanimous in supporting her, however, she might end up needing support from ECR ranks. One in five delegates at the EPP congress in Bucharest in March voted against her, while the party's French and Slovenian delegates have said they won't back her in Thursday's vote.
But Schinas said that none of those who had raised doubts about von der Leyen in public had done the same at a recent summit of the EPP political family in Portugal, which “is also telling.”
Von der Leyen’s conservative allies have argued that voting against her would be a gift to the populist right across the continent at a time of massive geopolitical instability.
An upset this week would also likely mean that the Commission won't be up and running until 2025.
“There is only plan A, there is no plan B,” Schinas said.
 

Ursula von der Leyen wins second term as European Commission president​

STRASBOURG — The European Parliament elected Ursula von der Leyen for another five years as European Commission president, choosing stability and continuity for the EU’s most powerful institution and the bloc.
Von der Leyen, who hails from the centre-right European People’s Party, won 401 votes in a secret ballot, well above the 361 votes she needed to be elected. There were 284 votes in opposition, 15 abstentions and 7 votes declared invalid.
Von der Leyen had the backing of the three mainstream, pro-EU groups — the center-right European People’s Party, the Socialists and the liberals of Renew. In the weeks and months leading up to the vote, some lawmakers within those centrist groups said they would not vote for her, forcing her to look for support from outside her current coalition, including among the left-leaning Greens.
Now that von der Leyen has the support of both the European Council and the European Parliament, she will begin to assemble her new European Commission.
Yay!:)
 
I won't disagree with the strong probability that every politician is a potential puppet...but given that right now there were no other options, what other leader would you rather have at the EU!?
 
Even some previous leaders were more their own person (eg that ex pm of Luxemburg). She is literally a failed and publicly disgraced german lightweight politician who was then made nominal head of the Eu to be puppet for all to see and accept that's how it is.
 
We don't elect "leaders" here, we elect representatives.

She is not expected to have ideas of her own, she is expected to express the view of the EU commission.
 
As long as she keeps churning for Ukraine support and EU army I am a happy camper.
 
We don't elect "leaders" here, we elect representatives.

She is not expected to have ideas of her own, she is expected to express the view of the EU commission.
Typically puppets "express" the view of whoever moves them. But I am happy you view her being without a brain as a plus for nominal head of the Eu.
 
Of course, nothing is more dangerous than a politician with a brain :D
Those still exist, the puppets don't place themselves :S
What is new however, is having the voters be resigned to that use, as if to remind them they're indifferent or easily swayed so WTH not be blatant. She's as good an example of this as anyone, reelected absolute, obvious to all puppet and it's seen as ok.
 
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