So much spam in this thread FFH was nice, but not great since all the civ4 engine limitations... some of the things really bothered me, especially too much micro which was even worse than in civ games (mages, items etc, all done by unit). I really loved mom, maybe it would be nice to have a similar game with multiplayer and in modern engine similar to civ4 in features (reconect etc.). Anyway ffh has a potential to be a few times better than mom anyway, even as a mod there was a lot more content there. It just has to be put together and made to work Damn, are you looking for programers? edit: And damn, I don't like the "more rpg approach" elemental: war of magic is apparently gonna take... strategy with rpg elements is just way better. Its annoying to have yourself killed... I gave up age of wonders after 30 minutes.