The Great Great People Name Contest

[Leoreth]

There's been lots of great people changes happening, with more to come in the future, which means I need more civ specific great people names.

Besides Great Statesmen, Great Spies also still lack dynamic names, as does Polynesia as a whole. Female GPs will be the next feature so I want to collect more names here as well.

Of course I need to rely on your suggestions here again, but this time to motivate you even more and to make the whole experience a bit more fun, I've decided to make it a contest.

That means for each of the four categories

• Great Statesmen
• Great Spy
• Female GPs
• Polynesian GPs

the member with the most suggestions that I select to end up in the mod will be rewarded with becoming a great person of a civilization and type of their choice (inserted at the end of the list)!

Remarks about the contest:

• My selection of names will be based on personal preference and is therefore arbitrary, you won't be able to appeal afterwards if a suggestion isn't chosen
• To keep things fair, you can only win in one category
• The winner can name "their" GP any way they want, however I will retain the right to veto your choice in case it is somehow inappropriate
• Names already suggested in the female GP thread count

Suggestions go to the dedicated threads:

Great Statesmen: names of political leaders, reformers, lawmakers, political philosophers, political scientists, political activists

Great Spies: people related to espionage and intelligence, including historical assassins/vigilantes etc.

Female Great People: same criteria as with other GPs of their type. If you have female Statesmen or Spies, please suggest them here (will count for both).

Polynesian Great People: legendary figures are acceptable in this case, since we are unlikely to have many historical sources

Note: it would help me a lot if you could provide wiki links or at least the century of activity with your GPs.

 

[baseballpie]

Germany:

Leoreth

 

[Charriu]

Germany:

Female Great Spy: Mata Hari (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari)

USA:

Great Statesman: Henry Kissinger (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger)

EDIT: And the next time I read the full post and start writing in the correct thread

 

[Charriu]

Where should I put Mata Hari. She's a great spy but also a female GP.

 

[borhap88]

Nothing, sorry.

 

[Leoreth]

Germany:

Leoreth

In all categories.

 

[cudfather]

In which file are there names of already existing GPs? Particularly interested in Generals, so as to avoid overlaps.

 

[Leoreth]

XML\Units\CvUnitInfos.xml.

Overlap is not necessarily bad. Names more suitable for Statesmen might have wound up in other GP types.

 

[citis]

Great Statesmen: Kleisthenes

Inventor of voting. In my personal opinion noone can beat him. However, that depends on your votes. (It would be a great irony that Kleisthenes might lose from his own invention ).

 

[Leoreth]

I can beat up like, at least two old bearded dudes.

 

[merijn_v1]

Germany:

Female Great Spy: Mata Hari (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari)

USA:

Great Statesman: Henry Kissinger (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger)

EDIT: And the next time I read the full post and start writing in the correct thread

Mata Hari was Dutch.

 

[Leoreth]

I think it's because she allegedly worked for Germany during the war.

There will be a couple of potential great spies of a certain nationality/ethnicity who may have worked against their nation or its government. In that case I would still associate them with their country of origin, not their employers.

So say Ephialtes of Trachis is still a Greek GP.

 

[Wookieemeat]

Great Statesmen:

Canada:

Gen. Romeo Dallaire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rom%C3%A9o_Dallaire)- Attempted to warn UN of Rwanda genocide, now a human rights activist and senator

George-étienne Cartier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George-%C3%89tienne_Cartier)- Founding Father, helped unite French and English Canadians

Tommy Douglas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas)- Premier of Saskatchewan, father of Canadian Medicare

Rene Levesque (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_L%C3%A9vesque)- First Separatist Premier of Quebec

Louis Riel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Riel)- Founder of Manitoba, led the Red River Rebellion against the federal government

Clifford Sifton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Sifton)- Minister of the Interior under Wilfrid Laurier, helped settle the Western provinces with immigration policies and land giveaways

Jean Lesage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Lesage)- Premier of Quebec who reformed civil service, created secular education systems, called for Quebecois to be "masters of their own house"

 

[need my speed]

I think it's because she allegedly worked for Germany during the war.

There will be a couple of potential great spies of a certain nationality/ethnicity who may have worked against their nation or its government. In that case I would still associate them with their country of origin, not their employers.

Agreed. Einstein, for example, should be a German Great Scientist, not a USAn one.

 

[Leoreth]

I'm moderately drunk and just made myself laugh by trying to say "USAn"

 

[borhap88]

I'm moderately drunk

It's the right moment: please code Italian respawn in 1861!!!

 

[Leoreth]

Quiet, I'm busy trying to implement Venice.

 

[LacsiraxAriscal]

Tomorrow's SVN: Native American civilization introduced, at expense of USA.

On-topic, I got some UK humanitarians (they're allowed to be humanitarians right?) I stupidly put in the wrong thread.

William Wilburforce (anti-slavery)
John Bright (anti-corn laws, protosocialist sorta/Quaker MP)
Seebohm Rowntree (invented the poverty line, generally humanitarianed)

I admit my UK political history is appalling so I can't be of that much use. Disraeli and Gladstone get banded around here a lot as examples of great 19th century Prime Ministers but I haven't got the foggiest what either did to be honest. Pitt the Younger is pretty iconic too. Then you have David Lloyd-George of WW1 fame. Please though - no Thatcher! I'd sooner take Harriet Harman as a female GP.

Pre-prime minister era, you obviously have Oliver Cromwell who is a given, Thomas More, and their Frankenstein-statesman Thomas Cromwell (no relation to either). Honestly no idea what any of them did. Turns out my UK history knowledge is worse than I thought... if UK represents all of Great Britain I suppose you could add some Scottish statesman... like... um... Alex Salmond?

Perusing the other thread, I think Chep might win this.

 

[borhap88]

Quiet, I'm busy trying to implement Venice.

 

[citis]

It's the right moment: please code Italian respawn in 1861!!!

It already happens.