The Great People Thread

[moysturfurmer]

Ooh, Dwight Eisenhower & others. On phone right now so I can't make out the details.

 

[algn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaKHH4i8K6M
5:48
Alexander Pushkin (Industrial Writer) Eugene Onegin, Boris Godunov
Titian (Industrial Artist) Assunta (Religious), Salome with the Head of John the Baptist (Religious), Equestrian Portrait of Charles V (Portrait)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlDx11vO_Uk
4:23
Janaki Ammal (Atomic Scientist) Gain 400 Science for each Rainforest tile here or adjacent.
Liu Tianhua (Modern Musician) Liang Xiao, Kong Shan Niao Yu

 

[algn]

13:44
Vijaya Wimalaratne (Information General) Grants 1 promotion level and +100% combat experience to a military land unit.
Chester Nimitz (Atomic Admiral) +20% Production towards units of the Naval Raider promotion class.
Joseph Paxton (Information Engineer) The district's regional buildings provide +1 Amenity. This district's regional buildings reach 3 tiles farther.
Masaru Ibuka (Information Merchant) Industrial Zone districts provide +10 Tourism.
Stephanie Kwolek (Information Scientist) +100% Production towards Space Race projects.
Karel Capek (Information Writer) Rossum's Universal Robots (R.U.R), War with the Newts.
Amrita Sher-Gil (Information Artist) Three Girls (Portrait), Bride's Toliet (Portrait), Self Portrait (Portrait)
Gauhar Jaan (Information Musician) Raga Kharnaj Jogiya, Raga Bhairavi

21:56
Dwight Eisenhower (Atomic General) +5% Production towards military units.
Marie-Anne Collot (Atomic Artist) Portrait of Pierre Etienne Falconet (Sculpture), Portrait of Catherine II (Sculpture), Portrait of Marie Cathcart (Sculpture)
Juventino Rosas (Atomic Musician) Sobre las Olas, Vals Carmen

 

[moysturfurmer]

Updated the OP. Shoutout to Algn & Silverdawn for all their hard work.

Anyway. Apparently COSMETICS are a new luxury (like Jeans & Toys). Presumably this means someone like Coco Chanel is back?

Edit: added Mary Shelley, Gustave Eiffel, Antonio Gomes, and Rembrandt to the list. & Togo and Tolstory and Signorfonumbella. And James Young (scientist).

 

[kul]

Damn, great work everyone
However, alot of non-warring Great People were listed wayy off from their historical lifetime.. Maybe thats what happens when nobody picked on them yet, thus they are still available in later eras?

 

[Veras]

Happy to see a few Brazilians this time (Antônio Carlos Gomes and Joaquim Marques Lisboa, more know as the Tamandaré Admiral). It was disappointing to see Brazil in Civ V gaining bonus to great artists/writers/musicians while having 0 representation on the list.

 

[moysturfurmer]

Copied the list on reddit. Has a few additions, a key one being Leif Erikson.

Damn, great work everyone
However, alot of non-warring Great People were listed wayy off from their historical lifetime.. Maybe thats what happens when nobody picked on them yet, thus they are still available in later eras?

Worst one I can think of is Joseph Paxton.

 

[paulmclem]

Great Generals (Provides movement and combat bonuses to units of their era & following era)​

• Hannibal Barca (Classical General): Grants 1 promotion level to a military land unit

Before I get to my question, shouldn't this be Hamilcar Barca? That's what both Arioch and the Civ 6 Wiki have it down as.

Love the idea that GGs only impact units from their own eras (+1) - much more realistic and sensible. Also fantastic that they don't just burn to create Citadels. One small query. Using Hamilcar as an example, he is able to do two things:

• Standard 2 tile combat boost as per usual
• Grant 1 promotion to a military land unit

I'm assuming that the land unit has to be one from Hamilcar's era? Therefore if you'd unwittingly upgraded all units out of his era then there is no bonus when burning him

PaulC.

 

[indradiva]

As written there's no restriction on eras. Also Generals and Admirals affect units from their era and the next one, so even if there is a restriction, units from the next era should still be affected.

 

[paulmclem]

Generals and Admirals affect units from their era and the next one, so even if there is a restriction, units from the next era should still be affected.

Yep, understand that. My query was simply whether GG and GA can only ever impact units of their own start era and the one which follows i.e. if you were two eras beyond their start era and you had no units left of that GG/GA's two era period, would the option of unit based bonus (i.e. promotion) on GG/GA burn be lost?

 

[RohirrimElf]

got it. Beelining to newton and napoleon as fast as possible

 

[moysturfurmer]

I'm gonna be out of the house all day today. My undying gratitude goes to whomever finds the Cosmetics person, an American founding father, and Steve Jobs.

 

[treadwin]

Really??? I absolutely hate when people put down fantasy writers. What exactly is "higher" literature? 50 Shades??? I suppose the elitism over speculative fiction will never go away. Probably because it is the truly "higher" literature that people just don't comprehend so they choose to write it off so that they feel better about themselves. [/RANT]

I think Tolkein is about as "high literature" as it is possible to be. The man essentially invented an entire genre of literature. He was also a Professor of English literature and languages, so his English is about as "perfect" as it is possible to get.

I think you can very fairly criticize his work for its subject matter, or for being dull, or difficult to read, but in terms of the English he wrote, it is virtually faultless.

 

[algn]

A couple more names:

19:36
Clancy Fernando (Information Admiral) Grants 1 promotion level and +200% combat experience to a military [naval unit?]
H.G. Wells (Atomic Writer) The War of the Worlds, The Time Machine

 

[Southern_Hunter]

Before I get to my question, shouldn't this be Hamilcar Barca? That's what both Arioch and the Civ 6 Wiki have it down as.

PaulC.

That was his dad.

(Maybe they are both in?)

 

[moysturfurmer]

Before I get to my question, shouldn't this be Hamilcar Barca? That's what both Arioch and the Civ 6 Wiki have it down as.

Love the idea that GGs only impact units from their own eras (+1) - much more realistic and sensible. Also fantastic that they don't just burn to create Citadels. One small query. Using Hamilcar as an example, he is able to do two things:

• Standard 2 tile combat boost as per usual
• Grant 1 promotion to a military land unit

I'm assuming that the land unit has to be one from Hamilcar's era? Therefore if you'd unwittingly upgraded all units out of his era then there is no bonus when burning him

PaulC.

They wrong~ see attached.

Also ty again Algn

 

[moysturfurmer]

Big info dump from Chinese site. At work, can't update OP yet. Estée Lauder, Douglas MacArthur, Ahmed shah Masoud, Grace Hopper, Francis Drake,Sergei Gorshkov, Charles Correa, Werner Von Braun, Helena Rubensten, various artists revealed.

http://civilization6.vgbaike.com/文明#.E6.B3.95.E5.9B.BD

 

[cakes]

good mix of great people. i wonder if there is any functional difference between portraits and landscapes (and sculpture)

edit: actually it's a great mix

 

[fmm]

good mix of great people. i wonder if there is any functional difference between portraits and landscapes (and sculpture)

edit: actually it's a great mix

Agree that it's a great mix.

With respect to portraits/landscapes/sculptures/religious art: these are relevant for theming bonuses. To theme an art museum, you need to have 3 pieces of the same type by different artists. Theming doubles the output of the great works, as far as we can tell. (Also even though that page says religious art has different intrinsic yield than sculptures, I'm not sure that's really the case.)

EDIT: See this thread for more info http://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/great-work-yield.576264/

 

[Luxerne]

From trying to decipher the Google translated version of the Chinese leaks...

Douglas MacArthur (Atomic General): Creates a Tank unit with one free promotion.
Ahmad Shah Massoud (Information General): Creates a Modern AT unit with one free promotion.

Siddhartha Gautama (Classical Prophet) [era]
Simon Peter (Classical Prophet) [era]
Bodidharma (Medieval Prophet) [era]
Francis of Assisi (Renaissance Prophet) [era]

Zheng He (Medieval Admiral): Grants one Envoy.
Grace Hopper (Atomic Admiral): Random Eureka moment for an Atomic or Information era technology.
Sergey Gorshkov (Atomic Admiral): Provides a free promotion and +100% combat experience for the unit on this tile. (This one is very unclear, I made a guess as to what google translate meant.)

Abdus Salam (Information Scientist): (this one is also unclear, it says "activation time find all the information era of technology" which seems overpowered if you snagged him early on

Joseph Paxton is actually an Industrial Engineer, apparently. Presumably him showing up as Information Era in game was due to having run out of available great people from the late game, so it used him from earlier?

John Roebling (Atomic Engineer): +1 Amenity and +2 Housing for this city.
Charles Correa (Information Engineer): (this one looks like it provides +2 Amenities but I'm not sure about the translation)
Wernher von Braun (Information Engineer): Immediately completes construction of the Space Race project.

Marco Polo and Piero di Baldi are Medieval Merchants. Jamsetji Tata is a Modern Merchant.

Helena Rubinstein (Atomic Merchant): Grants +2 Cosmetics.
Estée Lauder (Information Merchant): Grants +2 Perfume.

Qiu Ying (Industrial Artist): "Spring Morning in the Han Palace," "Fishermen in Reclusion Among the Lotus Stream," "Red Cliff" (all Landscapes).
Claude Monet (Atomic Artist): "Water Lilies," "Impression, Sunrise," "Haystacks at Giverny" (all Landscapes).
Edmonia Lewis (Atomic Artist): "The Death of Cleopatra," "The Marriage of Hiawatha and Minnehaha," "Pompeiian Girl" (all Sculptures).
Gustav Klimt (Atomic Artist): "The Kiss" (Portrait presumably), "Avenue in Schloss Kammer Park," "The Sunflower" (both Landscapes presumably).
Boris Orlovsky (Information Artist): "Mikhail Kutuzov," "Alexander Victory Column," "Bust of Tsar Alexander I" (all Sculptures).
Mary Cassatt (Information Artist): "Lydia Leaning on Her Arms," "The Child's Bath," "The Cup of Tea" (all Portraits).

Frédéric Chopin (Modern Musician): "Nocturne in E Flat Major," "Grande Valse Brillante, Op. 18"
Antonín Dvořák (Atomic Musician): "Symphony No. 9 ("New World") Mvt. 4," "Serenade for Strings, Op. 22 Mvt. 2"
Lili'uokalani (Atomic Musician): "Lili'uokalani's Prayer," "Sanoe"
Mykola Leontovych (Information Musician): "Carol of the Bells," "Prelude for Choir"


(Engineers, Scientists, and Merchants seem to be able to reappear in later eras if they had been skipped over but there are no unique Great People of their type later--presumably the eras given on this Chinese site are the original eras they are from, since they have appeared later in-game)

(Presumably, Artists, Writers, and Musicians from earlier periods being counted as Modern/Atomic/Information is due to copyright issues from using more recent works, so they decided to use public domain works instead)