The Huns for BtS
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AbsintheRed
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Sry, just got home
But I did not forget the huns
Hopefully I can find something
But I did not forget the huns
Hopefully I can find something
AbsintheRed
Deity
Unfortunetly I did not find anythind really good.
I played around with every sources I found (including your idea of related tribe names), and come up with this list. So it's a total mix, but I tried to choose the names which are
the closest to huns by one or more reasons:
Segedin
Tapioszentmarton - we should find a not so hungarian name, maybe cheat a little and call it Tapiomart/Tapiomarton or something similar
Hunuk
Kutrigur
Onogur
Madara
Ratiara
Kevi
Sabir
Utigur
Suar
Aduni
Csegi
Suebi
Zalaegerszeg - call it Egerseg
Ruse
Beroe
Kazanlak
Sirmium
Margus
Serdica
Naissus
Odessos
Preslav
Bourgas
Storgosia
Shumen
Gabrovo
Veliko Tarnovo
Great Bulgar
Maybe we should slightly change the last few names too, or get totally rid of the last 3-4.
It's not a perfect list by far. But I think most players would like these as hunnic cities, and there are at least a slight connection to them in every case, so we don't make too bad mistakes either.
Of course you should change the order of the cities, it could be better, but if it's ok with you I would like the first 3 to stay this way...
I played around with every sources I found (including your idea of related tribe names), and come up with this list. So it's a total mix, but I tried to choose the names which are
the closest to huns by one or more reasons:
Segedin
Tapioszentmarton - we should find a not so hungarian name, maybe cheat a little and call it Tapiomart/Tapiomarton or something similar
Hunuk
Kutrigur
Onogur
Madara
Ratiara
Kevi
Sabir
Utigur
Suar
Aduni
Csegi
Suebi
Zalaegerszeg - call it Egerseg
Ruse
Beroe
Kazanlak
Sirmium
Margus
Serdica
Naissus
Odessos
Preslav
Bourgas
Storgosia
Shumen
Gabrovo
Veliko Tarnovo
Great Bulgar
Maybe we should slightly change the last few names too, or get totally rid of the last 3-4.
It's not a perfect list by far. But I think most players would like these as hunnic cities, and there are at least a slight connection to them in every case, so we don't make too bad mistakes either.
Of course you should change the order of the cities, it could be better, but if it's ok with you I would like the first 3 to stay this way...
cool3a2
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I could agree on the most cities of the first half of your list, Absinthe, but in my opinion the second half isn't good. In my view, we should avoid any slavic name. Sorry, if that sounds discriminatory - it's not meant this ways. But AFAIK there were no Slavs around there at the time of the Huns, at least not in those cities. Also, I think we should us at least the following names:
Well, I'll wait for more opinions o see what others want. Maybe at least The Capo and nitram post their opinions.
BTW: I set up a short text about Ruga in german, english and hungarian. I've also added the building The Capo suggested, although I still have to check if works properly. Now, I'll need to make a button for Ruga and put in the citylist and the next version could be released.
I agree on your suggestions on how to change Tápiószentmárton and I'd even use that one as capital. Or Hunuk or Turuk. I could try to transcript other examples from the last source I posted last time.
Well, I'll wait for more opinions o see what others want. Maybe at least The Capo and nitram post their opinions.
BTW: I set up a short text about Ruga in german, english and hungarian. I've also added the building The Capo suggested, although I still have to check if works properly. Now, I'll need to make a button for Ruga and put in the citylist and the next version could be released.
AbsintheRed
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Yeah, I did not like to end of my list either, just did not want too few cities.
We can easily drop them, as I stated in my last post, especially now that you posted a few new ones.
Suebi is on the previous list, but I think all the other 5 are good. Just call the first one Turuk not Turuks
If we drop everything after Odessos, than we have 28 cities with those, which should be more than enough...
EDIT: I don't really remember every city, but if there other slavic city names drop them too.
I don't think if we have some greek/roman names in the end of the list is a problem, so I would leave those...
We can easily drop them, as I stated in my last post, especially now that you posted a few new ones.
Suebi is on the previous list, but I think all the other 5 are good. Just call the first one Turuk not Turuks
If we drop everything after Odessos, than we have 28 cities with those, which should be more than enough...
EDIT: I don't really remember every city, but if there other slavic city names drop them too.
I don't think if we have some greek/roman names in the end of the list is a problem, so I would leave those...
The Capo
godless Heathen
The list I have is just Edgecrusher's list, which he posted here earlier. So if you guys come up with something better (and I might be able to mix the two) I'll use that.
AbsintheRed
Deity
Noone seems to be interested in this.
What's your current list Cool? I think we should make a final list with about 25-30 cities
What's your current list Cool? I think we should make a final list with about 25-30 cities
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At the moment, I have no time. I just started working for a couple of months now - that's part of studying computer sience. So there is no progress at the moment. On weekend, I'll visit civfanatics again ad then will continue to discuss. All I can say is, that I'd be happy with 20-25 cities, too.
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So this is my suggestion:
- names ending on -uk
- names ending on a single -i
- names ending on -ur (could be extended to names ending on -r)
- names ending on -oi or -ai
- names derrivated from Hungarian
this list sounds rather harmonic compared to the old list. I also believe that by transcripting them, the hungarian forms got somewhat 'assimilated' into this list, so that at least foreigners won't recognize anything strange without a closer look.
Well, it could be that Sabir and Suvar is the same... Although I tried to find sources, I found nothing.
Also, -oi / -ai seems to be a greek plural form (another example: Sabartoi Asphaloi). I could try to replace them with -ur / -ir / -uk / -i / -ar - whatever fits.
- Akatziroi: Akatziruk or simply Akatzir
- Sklaveniai: Sklavenir
- Bastarnai: Bastarnur, Bastarnuk, Bastarnar, Bastarnir
A little later, I'll post my (rather short) texts about Ruga, so others might correct grammar and spelling mistakes.
Here and there I changed the spelling, for example Csegi -> Jegi. Although, there are roughly 5 groups of names in the list:
- names ending on -uk
- names ending on a single -i
- names ending on -ur (could be extended to names ending on -r)
- names ending on -oi or -ai
- names derrivated from Hungarian
this list sounds rather harmonic compared to the old list. I also believe that by transcripting them, the hungarian forms got somewhat 'assimilated' into this list, so that at least foreigners won't recognize anything strange without a closer look.
Well, it could be that Sabir and Suvar is the same... Although I tried to find sources, I found nothing.
Also, -oi / -ai seems to be a greek plural form (another example: Sabartoi Asphaloi). I could try to replace them with -ur / -ir / -uk / -i / -ar - whatever fits.
- Akatziroi: Akatziruk or simply Akatzir
- Sklaveniai: Sklavenir
- Bastarnai: Bastarnur, Bastarnuk, Bastarnar, Bastarnir
A little later, I'll post my (rather short) texts about Ruga, so others might correct grammar and spelling mistakes.
cool3a2
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The Ruga-texts:
english:
hungarian:
(I'm aware that there is a difference between ü / ű and ö / ő, but there are is no ű and ő on my keybord and I am not aware that there is a key combination for them for german keyboards. These two letters aren't part of the ISO-8859-1 encoding standard either, so I'll have to replace them, I think. So simply ignore the two for now.)
The text is a combination of the wikipedia entries in german, english and hungarian. So nothing new. Still, parts of that are my own translation, so feel free to correct.
english:
Spoiler :
hungarian:
Spoiler :
(I'm aware that there is a difference between ü / ű and ö / ő, but there are is no ű and ő on my keybord and I am not aware that there is a key combination for them for german keyboards. These two letters aren't part of the ISO-8859-1 encoding standard either, so I'll have to replace them, I think. So simply ignore the two for now.)
The text is a combination of the wikipedia entries in german, english and hungarian. So nothing new. Still, parts of that are my own translation, so feel free to correct.
cool3a2
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Bakuel finished his hunnish worker (oh, I still don't know what's correct: hunnic or hunnish - looks like both words exist) - another reason to get an update for this mod! If there are no objections, I'd use the citylist I suggested last time and upload the mod next weekend. Bakuels worker would already be in then.
I would appreciate it if someone could take a look at my texts - they are just short, so it shouldn't take you guys too long.
I would appreciate it if someone could take a look at my texts - they are just short, so it shouldn't take you guys too long.
The Capo
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I don't think it matters much, I'm sure both are used. I pesonally use Hunnic, but you could probably just as easily say simply "Hun" or "Hunnish" too.
Edgecrusher
King
I personnally think Hunnic sounds alot better than Hunnish.
I compare it to the way that the Celts are handled, i.e. Celtic.
I compare it to the way that the Celts are handled, i.e. Celtic.
