The Hunter Biden Thread

Farm Boy said:
When things get rough, Californians vomit forth and buy up Texas real estate. When things get rough, Texas girls wind up broke in LA.
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I think this is also(?) confusing two sources of economic value. Nobody from California is broke there, eh?

Naw, it's just the privileged city folk vs. the hard done by rurals. No doubt.
Farm Boy said:
Denkt is cute and earnest and I like reading him, but I don't think he'd survive out of his natural environs.
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I think this is true of a lot of folks. On all of the points mentioned.
 
No, there are plenty of overfat "rurals," but I talk about the tangibles I know. Weird, when you're actually diverse in some ways that aren't skin deep, "no doubt." Right?

Scandinavian sunlight would do me in in the winter. Like probably literally.
 
If you don't like rich *******s bidding up prices the solution is communism
 
Except they work by even more killing/ survivorship bias. They suck so much, the countries that still call themselves communist in deference to thier history are such unabashedly uptight conservative authoritarian states, that they've turned the very concept of controlling capitalism into a political slur that works. Which is secondary suckage. We're definitely in the right thread, given the symptoms, at least!

Though, maybe I am understanding the appeal? It seems like evertime you express real rage you wish death on people that describe those I know and love. And given you come from an "economic equity angle" your choice of preferred victims and thier incomes seems a bit baffling. Legit confused by the liberals* here, nearly all the time. Is the confusion just misplaced good intentions? Actual question.

*Edit: sorry, that's a sidebar -- in that the people who call themselves liberals instead of communists confuse me less on the principles here, but still definitely confuse me.
 
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Farm Boy said:
Except they work by even more killing/ survivorship bias. They suck so much, the countries that still call themselves communist in deference to thier history are such unabashedly uptight conservative authoritarian states, that they've turned the very concept of controlling capitalism into a political slur that works. Which is secondary suckage. We're definitely in the right thread, given the symptoms, at least!

Though, maybe I am understanding the appeal? It seems like evertime you express real rage you wish death on people that describe those I know and love. And given you come from an "economic equity angle" your choice of preferred victims and thier incomes seems a bit baffling. Legit confused by the liberals* here, nearly all the time. Is the confusion just misplaced good intentions? Actual question.

*Edit: sorry, that's a sidebar -- in that the people who call themselves liberals instead of communists confuse me less on the principles here, but still definitely confuse me.
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Communism is nothing more or less than the full expression of a principle stated concisely by Wendell Phillips in a speech on John Brown which I recently had occasion to read.

Lawless, brutal force is no basis of a government, in the true sense of that word . . . . No civil society, no government, can exist except on the basis of the willing submission of all its citizens, and by the performance of the duty of rendering equal justice between man and man.
Whatever calls itself a government, and refuses that duty, or has not that assent, is no government. It is only a pirate ship.
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From this it follows that a government which defends the right to capitalist private property, which is in fact the right of the capitalist to steal from the rest of us and to imprison or kill us if we resist, is a pirate ship. Small-c communism is only the name for the mode of social organization, under which, alone, the state cannot be said to be a "pirate ship."

My preferred "victims" (your term, but a billionaire subject to expropriation of wealth is no more a "victim" than any other thief forced to make restitution for their crimes) are none other than the thieves who are robbing us all and destroying our world, quite literally killing us all for the sake of their own aggrandizement.

If I am also angry at the people who choose to be lackeys of those thieves, forgive me.

Liberals confuse you because their stated principles are contradicted by their support for those very same thieves who make the state into a pirate ship.
 
That sounds like a fancy justification for going a'viking, to me, tbh. I see no practical limits on appropriating incels in the ideology, only capacity to work whatever institutions, by need of maintaining a complicated system, then do arise.
 
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Hygro said:
The inverse of this would be like saying since wages are higher in those places, one should grow their soybeans in LA or DC to make more.
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There certainly are opportunists that know they can totally get away with selling cheap crap at outrageous prices to people in those cities just because the people are so acclimated to such higher prices and generally make more.

Doesn't mean you'd necessarily want to have your soybeans grown there with all the regulations and lack of arable soil in the concrete jungle, but you could grow the beans somewhere cheap in say Iowa, ship them to some food plant and turn them into some vegan cappuccino shake or something, then sell it out of a food van to the people there at obscene rates lie a little and proclaim the drinks glorious health benefits and how it saves the polar bears by using less greenhouse gas.

Millionaire guaranteed!!!
 
Want some work?
 
Farm Boy said:
You're confusing two sources of "economic value." One is a social and political construct, like many services though not all, the other is a real product.

Playing in the same economy, with the same macro costs, both real and political, is felt when it's a real product. The profit margin taken by the government leaves little room for inefficiency. You can see it in the bugs. I used to hit them like mad with my windshield. Now, with the economic growth enabled by technology and the pricing built into the market, both bugs and weeds don't work in the soybean monoculture. You're out of business, and somebody else will more aggressively enact the monoculture. The bugs are almost entirely gone. With them go the mice, the birds, the foxes, real outcomes serving the political demands of the populace regarding disparate costs of living. Government services need paid for out of something. Dead diversity plays its part.

When things get rough, Californians vomit forth and buy up Texas real estate. When things get rough, Texas girls wind up broke in LA. Both meme-common themes.

Denkt is cute and earnest and I like reading him, but I don't think he'd survive out of his natural environs.
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Where do you draw the line between a "real product" and a "social and political construct"? And how do you draw this line?
 
I'll need to think on the language, Death Knight... was it? Wanting the numbers of things that aren't numbers. :p
 
It's been a while, and I forget how much you do or don't like to consider the abstract tangible. It takes faith to move mountains, after all.

How about we start at: in the negative possession sense - if it can be stolen, taken, or appropriated, if its use consumes/wears it, it's a real product. If it's a deal that can be betrayed or not honored, it's a social and political construct? As a starting point. I suppose that would make people and services, forward looking, into resources. It would make the purchasing power of currency, an electronic deposit in a bank, or a past service or exchange of goods for which payment is due into social and political constructs? The dead bugs(well, most of the ones are dead have been dead long enough that they're just gone would be a better word) are real product costs of the social constructs of taxation and the farm program, the economic paradigm that exchanges the spread of monoculture and ticky-tacky for technical services such as GPS, social media apps, specialist doctors(if you can access them), the butt people on tv, Luke Combs on the radio instead of the church ladies live on Sunday, etc.

It all gets measured in intangible social construct numbers. They don't even print most of them on paper anymore. I struggle constantly with certain ideas. Like, for example, the social construct used to build in, as an unseen number(with opportunity costs), lots of daycare. Now, it builds in much of that as an expense - which is both an increase in GDP and economic growth, but now puts taxation/transportation/regulation into the equation for the same work done. There are government regulations provided, but now there's a rake off the top of every day's transaction. We live in a society, yah.
 
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Farm Boy said:
I'll need to think on the language, Death Knight... was it? Wanting the numbers of things that aren't numbers. :p
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Death knight was you ;)
 
I thought it was wannabe wonk or something.

Either way, the conversion of species diversity into imaginary numbers that people measure success by it real enough. Even if you're a big enough social loser to care about bugs. Our little patch of root- barriered creek and unshredded waterways intermittently attract a heron. It moves on fast, but it's edifying to know we're one of its stops! Even if a heron can't count to three. Crows can, but they're still dead and gone from West Nile.
 
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Farm Boy said:
Crows can, but they're still dead and gone from West Nile.
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The crows around you have been killed by West Nile Fever? I had not realised it had had that sort of impact on the natural world as well as us.
 
Agreed(luchre is).
Samson said:
The crows around you have been killed by West Nile Fever? I had not realised it had had that sort of impact on the natural world as well as us.
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Been over a decade. They're just gone.
 
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Kaitzilla said:
I think she was up in arms over the broad granting of immunity for crimes Hunter is still under investigation for.
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The judge was also up in arms over what happened the night before the plea deal hearing.

Hunter's law firm pretended to represent Congress and successfully got the whistleblower documents removed from the case.


Scratching my head how they thought no one would notice.


I think I believe them that it was miscommunication and they never said they represented a Chairman in Congress.

The clerk just got the impression they did.
 
Trump-appointed judge, says all you need to know IMO. If the Dems ever get a 2/3 majority in the Senate (unlikely) I'll be writing letters demanding they impeach and remove every judge appointed by Trump (which they won't, even if they could, because they're wet napkins).
 
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