The Official Never Buy That Again Thread!
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The Person
Deity +2
I'm still wondering why there are so many people complaining over their stupid Windows installation which is so crappy etc... If you don't like Windows, don't use it! There are alternatives, so use them if you don't like Windows.
Personally I use Windows, and I think it's worth it.
I just want to tell you Windows-users who hate how much I hate your complaining about it. I'm sure Micro$oft would make things better if you gave them some real competition, like using other operating systems. You don't have to stick with what you got with your prebuilt computer set, you (should) know.
Personally I use Windows, and I think it's worth it.
I just want to tell you Windows-users who hate how much I hate your complaining about it. I'm sure Micro$oft would make things better if you gave them some real competition, like using other operating systems. You don't have to stick with what you got with your prebuilt computer set, you (should) know.
Aphex_Twin
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I have gotten over game mania, so for now I'll stick with Windows, just I won't upgrade it. When the thing becomes obsolete, I'll switch to Linux. I already have OpenOffice (which is an excellent program BTW).Originally posted by kittenOFchaos
He plans to NOT pay for Microsoft Software, he will surely use their software still.
I plan never to buy a printer that needs expensive re-fills so bloody often!!!
Goober
Turning Right ...
The only reason I complain is that, for playing games, there is no alternative. You simply cannot play all the games that you can on XP on Mac, or Linux, or Lindows, or whatever. If you could, I would not have XP, but to play games, I kinda haveta. I know I do not have to stick with Windows, and I am someday going to get my drive partitioned to get Linux or Lindows or something for everything but games, but the other problem is that everyone uses M$ products, and if I used Linux or whatever products, then they would not be compatable with everyone else who uses Word, etc. I am gonna tryo to partition my computer, though. And I have found a temporary solution for my computer, which has solved a major problem I was having. See the thread that is in Computer Talk.
tossi
Der kleine Prinz
For all germans:
I will never ever buy a ALDI PC again... It suchs hard!!! Believe me!
I will never ever buy a ALDI PC again... It suchs hard!!! Believe me!
funxus
Orange Cycloptic Blob
It's not that Microsoft products are bad, I like them, because I rarely have problems with them, easy installation, easy to understand, looks good, I'm used to it... I just don't like the fact that practically all computer package deals include MS-products (the OS and Word or Works). I think it should be sold separately for better competition, which I'm sure would lead to more people choosing another OS and office-suite, when they realise the vast difference in cost.
I realise that it's possible to buy computer parts separately and build one myself, and as I mentioned, that is what I plan to do in the future. But I think it'd be nice to give all those who don't know/dare build their own computer some more choices.
(Sorry for complaining about it again)
I realise that it's possible to buy computer parts separately and build one myself, and as I mentioned, that is what I plan to do in the future. But I think it'd be nice to give all those who don't know/dare build their own computer some more choices.
(Sorry for complaining about it again)
The problem there Fuxus is that people buy computers for the ease of use and for the fact that it's already set up. People who know nothing about computers can use a pre-setup machine and not need to worry about fine details. The problem is that these same people also go and install programs like Kazaa, Imesh, GAIN, look at porn without thinking twice, etc and then they end up with a slow crappy computer. What's the first words that come out of their mouths? "Microsoft sucks!"
A computer is like a car; you need to keep it finely tuned and take it in for checkups and oil changes and services time and time again. If you don't, then in the long run you'll be sorry and most likely blame Microsoft for your own faults.
If companies like Dell, HP, Sony, etc were to not include Windows or any other operating system with their computers then it would defeat the purpose of buying a pre-made machine. Some say that they could include Linux instead. Sure, they could, but why would they want to? Linux isn't for computer newbies (maybe Mandrake is, but it's still a bit complicated for someone who isn't sure what some things are on the computer or how they work.)
An Apple OS obviously isn't going to be compatible with a PC. And anything else is just too complicated for the computer illiterate people out there to learn. That's why Microsoft becomes the optimal choice for these companies to include their software.
I think that one of Microsofts unofficial business missions with their software is to make it idiot-proof. They are trying, but it's not easy.
Don't get me wrong, I know many of Microsoft's products have bugs and issues with them. But what software doesn't? You think Macs are crash-proof? HA! Don't even get me started with issues you will run into with certain Linux distros. Every sort of software out there has its issues. This is where responsible use comes into play. But too many people are far too ignorant to admit that their computers suck because they have no idea what they are doing.
Sorry for the condescending tone, but I'm sick of people opening email attachments that they got from some total stranger or clicking 'Yes' to an install query just so they can view a foreign website and then blaming a company for their own problems. I'm not pointing fingers here - it's just a blanket statement that applies to many people and self-proclaimed "Micro$oft" haters.
A computer is like a car; you need to keep it finely tuned and take it in for checkups and oil changes and services time and time again. If you don't, then in the long run you'll be sorry and most likely blame Microsoft for your own faults.
If companies like Dell, HP, Sony, etc were to not include Windows or any other operating system with their computers then it would defeat the purpose of buying a pre-made machine. Some say that they could include Linux instead. Sure, they could, but why would they want to? Linux isn't for computer newbies (maybe Mandrake is, but it's still a bit complicated for someone who isn't sure what some things are on the computer or how they work.)
An Apple OS obviously isn't going to be compatible with a PC. And anything else is just too complicated for the computer illiterate people out there to learn. That's why Microsoft becomes the optimal choice for these companies to include their software.
I think that one of Microsofts unofficial business missions with their software is to make it idiot-proof. They are trying, but it's not easy.
Don't get me wrong, I know many of Microsoft's products have bugs and issues with them. But what software doesn't? You think Macs are crash-proof? HA! Don't even get me started with issues you will run into with certain Linux distros. Every sort of software out there has its issues. This is where responsible use comes into play. But too many people are far too ignorant to admit that their computers suck because they have no idea what they are doing.
Sorry for the condescending tone, but I'm sick of people opening email attachments that they got from some total stranger or clicking 'Yes' to an install query just so they can view a foreign website and then blaming a company for their own problems. I'm not pointing fingers here - it's just a blanket statement that applies to many people and self-proclaimed "Micro$oft" haters.
funxus
Orange Cycloptic Blob
Jeratain, I totally agree with you. It's not that it's Microsoft's fault or any other company's fault in most cases (some companies' products are actually crappy...), it's that people don't know what they're doing. When a message pops up to say something, my parents scream for me and ask what's wrong, instead of reading and trying to understand the message, which often is something like "If you wish to procede, press OK"...
I also don't think other companies makes much better software, although most of them are better at something (a niche), like any other product.
I'm sure, however, that it'd be simple to instead of having pre-installed computers, the retailers sell empty computers, and then ask you: Will you buy software separately, or would you like to buy a package deal from us of "pre-install"-cds (like rescue discs)? We have Microsoft (with Windows and Office), we have OS/2, we have a Redhat package (with Redhat Linux and maybe Staroffice?). There are differences, e.g. Microsoft is very popular and easy to use, but costs several hundreds more, and Redhat's deal is a lot cheaper, but might take more effort to understand. All of these include support however, in case you run into problems.
When you come home, you plug in the computer, put in the cd and boot it. Answer 'yes' when they ask if you really want to do this, then wait for installation. After installation is complete, you follow instructions to set up the system, call support if needed and then the computer's ready to use.
Maybe a bit harder for the customer, but it's much fairer and in the long run probably much better for the customers.
I also don't think other companies makes much better software, although most of them are better at something (a niche), like any other product.
I'm sure, however, that it'd be simple to instead of having pre-installed computers, the retailers sell empty computers, and then ask you: Will you buy software separately, or would you like to buy a package deal from us of "pre-install"-cds (like rescue discs)? We have Microsoft (with Windows and Office), we have OS/2, we have a Redhat package (with Redhat Linux and maybe Staroffice?). There are differences, e.g. Microsoft is very popular and easy to use, but costs several hundreds more, and Redhat's deal is a lot cheaper, but might take more effort to understand. All of these include support however, in case you run into problems.
When you come home, you plug in the computer, put in the cd and boot it. Answer 'yes' when they ask if you really want to do this, then wait for installation. After installation is complete, you follow instructions to set up the system, call support if needed and then the computer's ready to use.
Maybe a bit harder for the customer, but it's much fairer and in the long run probably much better for the customers.
GrandAdmiral
Deity
I think its silly when people complain about the default software that comes with their computer. As if you can't uninstall it or are just subliminally compelled to use it. How easy is it to download Mozilla or something else?
If you are so concious about your software then build your own computer and put what you want on it. If you can't figure out how to do that then you probably aren't capable of figuring out what programs are bugy and which ones aren't.
If you are so concious about your software then build your own computer and put what you want on it. If you can't figure out how to do that then you probably aren't capable of figuring out what programs are bugy and which ones aren't.
Rheinmetall
Interplanetary Assassin
This is getting way off-topic but I don't have anything against Microsoft products. Usually when something goes wrong with windows systems it's users doing. I'm using W2K right now and I've had the same install more than a year now. No problems at all. I won't probably reinstall until I get a new HD.
Those HP laptops had something funny in the hardware department but the WXP install CD's were also screwed but they weren't provided by Microsoft. They were provided by HP.
I remember this story from some finnish forum about a guy who blamed windows for complaining about something. He was apparently trying to replace desktop icons like "My Computer" "Internet Explorer" with NOTHING. No wonder windows got a little upset. But do you think it was microsoft's fault?
Those HP laptops had something funny in the hardware department but the WXP install CD's were also screwed but they weren't provided by Microsoft. They were provided by HP.
I remember this story from some finnish forum about a guy who blamed windows for complaining about something. He was apparently trying to replace desktop icons like "My Computer" "Internet Explorer" with NOTHING. No wonder windows got a little upset. But do you think it was microsoft's fault?
DreadCthulhu
Warlord
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I will never purchase a desktop computer from one of the large manufacturs - Gateway, Dell, Compaq/HP, ect. They are all crap. I will either build any new machines myself, or get a small local whitebox builder to build them out of the parts I choose.
I will also never use a generic power supply again- I think I will stick to Antec.
I will also never use a generic power supply again- I think I will stick to Antec.
A Cyrix processor... my father bought an Acer computer back in the days which was supposed to be a whooping 686 (marketting gimmick) 150mhz. The thing performed like a Pentium 100 and it was horribly unstable. I also hate Acer for their poor design (looks great but truly sucks when you have to open your computer) and abysimal quality...
FireBall
Friendly Ball of Fire
I will never buy:
- Shinobi....
-An Acer PC
-A prebuiilt Pc... Built for m scratch all the way!
-Windows ME (Need I explain... really?)
-A GE Wireless phone
-Any Train Simulator Games.... No matter what reviews they get...
- Shinobi....
-An Acer PC
-A prebuiilt Pc... Built for m scratch all the way!
-Windows ME (Need I explain... really?)
-A GE Wireless phone
-Any Train Simulator Games.... No matter what reviews they get...
Brainly
Chieftain
My "never-buy" list:
Lexmark printer. The only thing the tech support can say is that the fault is in my computer.
A-Link network product. Their roadrunner 44 dsl-router is full of crap. Stay away of it.
Lexmark printer. The only thing the tech support can say is that the fault is in my computer.
A-Link network product. Their roadrunner 44 dsl-router is full of crap. Stay away of it.
samildanach
Necrophile
Creative may be good for sound cards but don't touch their graphics cards.
Dr. Yoshi
Emperor of the Universe
I will never buy an ASUS motherboard again: the thing was a pain in the @$$ to install and I have been unable to get it to mount correctly onto my case.
samildanach
Necrophile
You do know that there are different types of cases and motherboards. It may have been the worst case you ever bought
The case I have at the moment is pretty huge for a desktop but its still a bit of a cluttered up mess of daisy chained knick knacks.
The next case I'm going to get will be a big old server box that way I might be able to keep things somewhat tidy.
You should do the same - being a ham fisted lout
The case I have at the moment is pretty huge for a desktop but its still a bit of a cluttered up mess of daisy chained knick knacks.
The next case I'm going to get will be a big old server box that way I might be able to keep things somewhat tidy.
You should do the same - being a ham fisted lout
FireBall
Friendly Ball of Fire
I will never buy a GigaByte Motherboard again:
Bought the state-of-the-art Gigabyte 8KNXP, overpaid, got stuck with somethign I didn't use in my computer and is still sitting in a box because it isn't compatiple with my 400 Mhz DDR Ram... Go figure...
Bought the state-of-the-art Gigabyte 8KNXP, overpaid, got stuck with somethign I didn't use in my computer and is still sitting in a box because it isn't compatiple with my 400 Mhz DDR Ram... Go figure...
