The Official Perfection KOs Creationism Thread Part Four: The Genesis of Ire!

[Cheetah]

Found an mp3 on wikipedia that I'm going to listen to now.

Edit:
On second thought, I'll do that after my assignment has been completed. I have 3 and a half hour left to do it, and the debate lasts for 82 minutes!

 

[Masquerouge]

But I wonder how Nelson is going to go at it. If he is going to argue that every specie was created more or less like it is today, or that the Earth is close to 6000 years old, I doubt anyone will take him seriously. But if he is simply going to argue that there might be an Intelligent Designer behind it all, there won't be much of a discussion - It's hard to discuss a persons beliefs.

Actually I'm more worried about how Amundsen will handle the science side. Too often scientists are poor debaters, because they're not trained they way creationnists are trained in public debates. And too often scientists have an arrogant, dismissive attitude that makes them very unsympathetic to the average Joe, while the creationnists are pretty good at gaining the public's support.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

The ID supporters are better suited at getting audiences to side with them.

The scientists are better at science.

Draw your own conclusions.

 

[Smidlee]

The scientists are better at science.

Exactly. Scientists are awful at storytelling/ fairytales. They should just stick with the hard facts. "The Plauibility of Life" written by evolutionists is an good example where you can tell these men know their stuff (biology) and when they don't. When they start speculating how evolution (nature) design something without an designer they sound very lame. Their "facilitated variation" idea doesn't address the problems it was suppose to solved and really didn't add anything new.

 

[Tekee]

I belive in Creationism, it makes the world more magical dosen't it?
not some stupid thing about humans evolving from Dirt

 

[ironduck]

Pfft, yeah, that stupid science!

 

[Perfection]

I belive in Creationism, it makes the world more magical dosen't it?

It does the exact opposite. It defers the amazing beauty of biodiversity produced by nature and ascribes it to some invisable power rather then a marvelous and awe-inspiring mechanism.

But emotions don't change facts! Judge by the evidence, not the poeticness.

not some stupid thing about humans evolving from Dirt

Is that your actual perception of evolutionary theory?

If so, you've been grossly misinformed!

 

[Babbler]

I belive in Creationism, it makes the world more magical dosen't it?

But it doesn't mean it true, whitch is the matter at hand. The universe doesn't care about you or your personal seiments.

 

[brennan]

Exactly. Scientists are awful at storytelling/ fairytales...

Yep, let's leave the fairytales to the creationists...

 

[The Last Conformist]

I belive in Creationism, it makes the world more magical dosen't it?

If "magical" = "small, boring, and insignificant", then yes.

Now, do you have an argument for creationism that doesn't amount to "I want there to be a monster under my bed"?

 

[Eukaryote]

I've never posted in a KO thread before because I had nothing to say. I guess if you had to sort me into a group I'd be called orgin-agnostic. I don't know where we came from and I'm not in a rush to find out.

 

[Perfection]

I've never posted in a KO thread before because I had nothing to say. I guess if you had to sort me into a group I'd be called orgin-agnostic. I don't know where we came from and I'm not in a rush to find out.

Agnosticism may be valid in the case of religion but not evolution. There is a vast amount of hard physical data supporting it. Ignoring that data is ignoring science.

 

[Eukaryote]

Agnosticism may be valid in the case of religion but not evolution. There is a vast amount of hard physical data supporting it. Ignoring that data is ignoring science.

Well then I guess I'm ignoring science, sue me.

 

[Perfection]

Well then I guess I'm ignoring science, sue me.

Well, I think it's important to keep science in one's worldview as it is the closest we can get to understanding reality.

 

[warpus]

Well then I guess I'm ignoring science, sue me.

Remaining ignorant is entirely up to you

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I have to say that knowing the methods that God used to create the Universe, and life within it, that span hundreds of thousands of light years and billions of years, is very much more awe-inspiring than "He did it all in a week by waving His hand."

 

[Souron]

I belive in Creationism, it makes the world more magical dosen't it?

Magic sucks because we can't understand it.

not some stupid thing about humans evolving from Dirt

You got this backwords. Creationism is the one that says man was mad from dirt.

Abiotic theory talks about how the first cells were more or less formed in small drops of oil (of sorts). This makes sence because to this day every living cell consists of an oily lipid membrane.

 

[carlosMM]

Exactly. Scientists are awful at storytelling/ fairytales. They should just stick with the hard facts. "The Plauibility of Life" written by evolutionists is an good example where you can tell these men know their stuff (biology) and when they don't. When they start speculating how evolution (nature) design something without an designer they sound very lame. Their "facilitated variation" idea doesn't address the problems it was suppose to solved and really didn't add anything new.

is this to be another drive-by potshot of meagre content quality? Basically, all you do is insult scientists, there's no other content to your post. How about you instead bother to finally answer a few of the many questions asked of you?

repoted your post as a troll/flame, btw.
Moderator Action: CarlosMM - that's hardly a serious flame.

 

[Pasi Nurminen]

Good scientists don't speculate, because they don't have to.

 

[El_Machinae]

Er, what?
99% of science is speculating, and of that 90% of science is being wrong the first dozen times you try something.