The Rules of Being a Man

Trying to make rules about what you believe a man is, is a fast way to turn off women. Heres an idea: if she doesn't mind if you say whatever the hell is on your mind, shes worth having around, if you need to follow conduct rules when you are around her, shes not worth it.

*exceptions being personal hygene, having a job etc.
 
I'm trying to understand why so many in this thread can't tell that the original post was meant as *humour*.. It's basically poking fun of the stereotypical western straight guy. Perhaps we should make it a comic instead..
 
Romanfe said:
Trying to make rules about what you believe a man is, is a fast way to turn off women. Heres an idea: if she doesn't mind if you say whatever the hell is on your mind, shes worth having around, if you need to follow conduct rules when you are around her, shes not worth it.

*exceptions being personal hygene, having a job etc.

If she's turned off by your manliness, SHE ISN'T WORTH IT. ;)
 
I used to work part-time at a gas station (the convenience store part), and the greatest day of my life was when this amazingly hot guy, who by coincidence I actually knew (I got to know him in the gas station's men's room---we discussed from adjacent urinals our relative penis sizes.) came in the store and asked for directions. Luckily, I was prepared for such an encounter; I had made myself look nice by applying some Oil of Olay to my face. The total hunk wasn't wearing a shirt, so I could see his magnificent six-pack, but anyway I'm a stickler for rules, so I pointed him to the sign saying, "No shirt, no shoes, no service." He apologized and asked if I could make an exception, because he was heading to the beach. I couldn't say no to such a cute face, so I not only gave him the directions that he wanted, but I also offered to apply suntan lotion to his gorgeous body. He was so grateful he offered to buy me lunch, and that's something I just can't refuse. We walked over to lunch with our arms around each other's shoulders, showing our good will toward each other. At lunch the oddest thing happened: my feet graced his feet under the table. We just had to giggle.

We've maintained a fairly friendly relationship over the years; I still send him birthday cards.
 
Read like a monologue from American Psycho.
 
Rambuchan said:
Heterosexual males are a funny lot. Today I noticed two things which made me ponder on "The Rules of Being a Man", a heterosexual one that is. These were:

a) During the G8 announcement on TV, I saw Bush shake hands with Olusegun Obasanjo, Nigerian President and Chairman of the African Union. Well they shook hands and then OO grabbed GWB's hand again and kind of stood there holding it, while someone else went on speaking. There were these two leaders, of extremely macho reputations and cultures, just standing in front on the world press holding hands. :eek: It's a bit weird right? (See rules below).

b) A female friend of mine was reading 'OK' magazine and I was looking through it curiously trying to get an insight into the empty barrel that is celebrity culture. Well while I was flicking through I saw a photo of David Beckham on the beach in his trunks, with the obligatory shades, tattoo and jewellery. For a moment I was struck and I thought - 'now that's a good looking man' :eek: . Then I checked myself, 'Ram what the hell are you doing?' And I threw the magazine down in disgust. I had just broken one of the golden rules of being a man!

I remember going regularly to India as a kid and being shocked at seeing so many guys going around holding hands on the streets. I used to think in my childish ignorance "gosh, there are lots of homos in India!" Of course I don't think that now. You often see men with their arms round each other, holding hands and walking together, but they are just friends. India's, and much of the world's, unspoken rules about being a man are quite different to those in 'the west'. Clearly OO, being Nigerian, had no problem with holding hands with GWB. Yet their's is certainly a macho culture.

So what is it about these unspoken rules of machismo? Why are they specific to different areas?

I will try and list some of these curious, unspoken, macho rules, as they relate to most posters here ie. Those for a western, heterosexual male. And I will also be so much of a time waster that I shall probably update the list as people offer more. Here are a few to start things off.

I would be interested to hear the gay and female perspectives on them. Please bear in mind that I am deliberately being homophobic and mysoginistic, for comedy's sake here and also to highlight how they are both innate in the make up of the hetero-male:

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RULE 1 ~ Never say that another man is good-looking.

It is totally unacceptable for a heterosexual man to comment on another man's looks. The furthest you can go is to compliment a bloke on his shirt, shoes, suit or tie. Definitely not his hair, complexion, after shave, thighs or six pack :nono:. If you think it, then stop.

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RULE 2 ~ Never talk to a man you don't know whilst at the urinal and certainly never peak over into his cubicle.

The only outside chance of there being an exception here is if you are both clearly shi*-faced drunk. But then the topics of conversation need to be monitored closely to ensure it does not descend into a homosexual encounter. And always keep your eyes up and to the wall when talking.

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RULE 3 ~ Refrain from sending each other birthday cards.

This is for women to do, alright? You should not even know when your mate's birthday is.

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RULE 4 ~ Physical contact must be closely monitored. This is broken down as follows:

a) No holding hands ever. Hand shake must be firm and the duration dependant on familiarity.

b) Regarding hugging: Only acceptable i) during winning sports occassions. In the case of a loss you can put arms over shoulders but don't let them slide to the waist or around the back. ii) in greeting (this must be short and back slappy) iii) when drunk (but watch it doesn't get out of hand).

c) If feet touch under the table, move them quick and be disturbed about it.

d) Regarding Suntan Lotion: Never apply lotion to another man's back, unless that man is a close relative, and then only in the complete absense of women. If a friend nags you into breaking this rule you should disown them or at least refuse.

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Then it gets complicated as we now have this idea of 'women's equality', adding more confusion for the budding machoman living in the 21st century. Some of the rules have changes and some have not.

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RULE 5 ~ Always make a determined effort to pay the bill.

Whether you earn more than the woman or not, you must do so. If the lady insists forcefully, you have to accept that times have changed and let her do it. But make sure she realises you are not happy about it.

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RULE 6 ~ You must offer your coat when a lady is cold.

Some things never change. You must still presume that she is fragile and incapable of protecting herself.

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RULE 7 ~ It is now OK to moisturise. (check exceptions)

We are now allowed / supposed to take pride in our appearance. This means you can go over board on hair wax and moisturisers.

NOTE: This still excludes the use of brands like Oil of Ulay or anything with pink on the label. Nivea is now bordeline into macho. You want to be using starkly designed creams that smell like shi*e if you are a true heterosexual male.

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RULE 8 ~ If there is the option of Steak or Quiche on the menu, for god's sake order the steak!

This is a case specific illustration of a general rule. If there is a non-veg option ie. red meat, go for that and ignore the vegetarian shi*e. That stuff is for rabbits and models.

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RULE 9 ~ Regarding Crying - don't do it, except:

a) When your team loses - in this case you can do it openly and blubber like an idiot.

b) When there is a bereavement in the family - this must be done reluctantly and in a stiffled fashion. No boo-hoo-hooing, again that's for the ladies and kids. If you feel the need to break down, get it over with quick. The recovery should be noble, with much flaring of the nostrils and whiping of the eye with the back of the hand.

c) All other circumstances are totally unacceptable.
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RULE 10 ~ Never ask for directions or help.

You don't need any help in explaining this one do you?

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RULE 11 ~ Regarding 'size'. It's so obvious it matters that you should never even bother discussing it.

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RULE 12 ~ No blades, no wax, no strips, no buzzing razors near anything but the face and in this case wet shave is what gives you cold steel on skin and greater blood loss. The body is a temple remember, none of the above near any of it.


Rule #1: Nonsense. There is nothing wrong with commenting on any individuals appearence.

Rule #2: Agreed. It should be obvious that the process of expelling waste from oneself is a private moment, unless of course the individual next to you complains of an animal jumping out and biting his penis. Then one may view the penis to assess the situation for consideration of proper action. Other similar cases would warrant such an act.

Rule #3: Nonsense. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging the achievement of having survived for yet another year in this dangerous world.

Rule #4: Nonsense. If the contact is non-sexual in origin, then I see nothing wrong with it, even in regard to suntan lotion. If it is sexual in origin, then we are no longer speaking of a heterosexual male.

Rule #5: Nonsense. This is just some egotistical nonsense of the highest order. If you are going to do something nice for someone, then do it. Nobody should be expected to pay the bill. Nobody should be keeping score.

Rule #6: Agreed. This is what is referred to as "being a gentleman" or "lady". Acting with regard and concern for the comfort of those around you, even, at times, at the expense of your own comfort. There is nothing wrong with a lady making a similar geasture toward a man.

Rule #7: Agreed. Caring for one's health should be one's primary concern. Without a healthy body and mind, what kind of relationship can one have with another?

Rule #8: Nonsense. Be yourself and do what comes naturally to you.

Rule #9: Nonsense. Those individuals who cannot accept and tolerate crying are those who are weak, not those individuals who cry.

Rule #10: Nonsense. Self-deprocation is a good attribute. Besides, who is the more foolish, he who is lost and asks directions to get back on his path, or he who is lost and remains so? Asking for directions displays courage and humbleness. Those who do not, display fear and arrogance.

Rule #11: Nonsense. If you are comfortable discussing such things and you are in the company of others who are comfortable discussing such things and in the appropriate setting, have at it.

Rule #12: Nonsense. Be yourself and do what comes naturally to you. If I dont trim certain "areas" of my body, it will look like I have a Wolverine growing in my pants.
 
I don't really follow any rules...I just am who I am...and do what I think it's best.

That's what people call personality...there's all different types of people in this world...that's what makes it interesting.
 
King Alexander said:
Real men don't eat soups, fruits and all these 'unreal' food! Real men hunt down animals and eat them alive or 'grilled' at a hot desert rock!

dude, soups and fruits are friggin tasty :)
 
Jawz II said:
dude, soups and fruits are friggin tasty :)

And what exactly is manly about daintily plucking fruit from a tree? Or chucking vegetables in a blender?

...Not a great deal I'll warrant.

However, bare hands, raw meat, blood, tracking a stag with nothing but your wits to...I'm starting to lose it.
 
Moss said:
That's what people call personality...there's all different types of people in this world...that's what makes it interesting.
Real men dont have discernable personalities...
 
John HSOG said:
Rule #1: Nonsense. There is nothing wrong with commenting on any individuals appearence.
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Rule #12: Nonsense. Be yourself and do what comes naturally to you. If I dont trim certain "areas" of my body, it will look like I have a Wolverine growing in my pants.

So you aren't a real man then...
 
Rule 13

Real men don't follow the rules.

Therefore, all of the rules are useless, and rule 13 contradicts itself.
 
Cuivienen said:
Rule 13

Real men don't follow the rules.

Therefore, all of the rules are useless, and rule 13 contradicts itself.
Real men don't follow the rules, they invent them ;)
 
If

If you can keep your seat when all about you
Are falling off their bar stools and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself with a hot woman,
But make allowance for her hotness too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, tell better lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to being stoopid,
And yet don't look too good, nor smell too sweet;

If you can dream - and not make your dreams too pornographic;
If you can think - and not make hot ladies your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And show them both a good time;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by yourself to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up because you have nothing better to do;

If you can make one heap of someone elses winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and run away
And never breath a word about his loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after you have ejaculated,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Grrrrr";

If you can talk with crowds and keep your clothes on,
Or walk with kings and not take the piss;
If neither foes nor loving friends can understand you;
If all men count with you, but hot women count double;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of bad poetry -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be Me my son!
 
Never cry espicially in public. Also no overt displays of affection towards your girlfriend in public.
 
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