The Tao Te Ching

bobgote said:
i know, but it does have one per page nonetheless. it has a bunch of introductions, prefaces, notes and appendices as well, so the book itself is longer than the 81 pages of text.

just a comment on the content from my (christian) p.o.v:
it contains a lot of wisdom and some very good concepts for living. from just reading this, it makes taoism seem like a very interesting philosophy (and quite compatible with my own beliefs too). however i still don't get how a religion arose out of this. they have temples and priests and all that like any other religion and i don't really see how that comes out of this book at all :\

well not really out of this book, but i don't see how it'd be compatible with the teachings in this book anyway.


Its actually a philosophy book. but Ancient Chinese have been practicing ancesterial worship for thousand of years prior to Lao Zhi and hence when he died. ppl just married in and worship Lao zhi as a god himself, so its become folklore and folk religion with tales of god coming from all aspect of life and some keep adding new gods. Even when Sun Wukong(Journey to the west) is a fictional character, there are also temple worshipping him. Not to mention others like some turtle saving fishermen, loyal doggy, man saving tiger, etc etc. So its more superstituous and folklore.

fillial piety is very deep rooted in the chinese culture hence, anything they feel good can be worship. There are also temple of Confucius and even one for Jiang Kiashek in taiwan.
 
bobgote said:
just a comment on the content from my (christian) p.o.v:
it contains a lot of wisdom and some very good concepts for living. from just reading this, it makes taoism seem like a very interesting philosophy (and quite compatible with my own beliefs too). however i still don't get how a religion arose out of this. they have temples and priests and all that like any other religion and i don't really see how that comes out of this book at all :\

Well, people, IME, tend to want reliable, predictable methods to get results. If he did <insert action> and became "enlightened" then I, logically, should be able to do the same thing and achieve enlightenment. IMO, this is how most religions arose. And, naturally, Monty Python has a good bit on it The Life of Brian, when a group of followers are running after Brian, and he loses his shoe, and they all stand around trying to determine what it means, some claiming that they should all remove one shoe, while others said it was a metaphor, and so on :D. In fact, you can even see an example in a similar event in Zen Buddhist history. Boddidharma, IIRC, came to a group of very learned monks, and simply raised a flower. All the monks discussed what it meant, while on Makyupska (sp) truly understood and simply smiled in response. Yet, we must also remember that his smile was not the "correct" answer either, as there is no correct answer and the comprehension is not repeateable by some study. Should a similar event happen ever again, who knows how understanding may be displayed? Generally, though, I do think a smile is a good idea and a nice response :)
 
Ramius75 said:
fillial piety is very deep rooted in the chinese culture hence, anything they feel good can be worship. There are also temple of Confucius and even one for Jiang Kiashek in taiwan.

The Temple of Confucius did not mean to worship Confucius as a god, but it is more like a place for others to pay respect and memory the teachings of Confucius.
There is no temple for Chiang Kai Sek, the name of the building is 'Chiang Kai Sek Memorial Hall'. There is a difference between a temple that worships some kind of god, and a memorial hall that remembers important people.
 
Dida said:
The Temple of Confucius did not mean to worship Confucius as a god, but it is more like a place for others to pay respect and memory the teachings of Confucius.
There is no temple for Chiang Kai Sek, the name of the building is 'Chiang Kai Sek Memorial Hall'. There is a difference between a temple that worships some kind of god, and a memorial hall that remembers important people.

There is, there is an Idol of confucius in one of the Taoist temple in Singapore, i was there b4 and thats where we keep the tablets of my grandmother too.

Also, i saw on TV a temple with an idol od Chiang kai Sek in Taiwan too, apperantly someone worship him as a god.
 
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