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This December 21st a rare celestial event will appear in the sky, one not seen since 1226 AD

Jupiter and Saturn will appear like a double planet

edit: technically in 1226 AD the 2 planets were even closer

I'd be interested to see if that event showed up in any medieval tapestries or other records and myths
 
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Jupiter and Saturn have been approaching one another in Earth's sky since the summer. From Dec. 16-25, the two will be separated by less than the diameter of a full moon.

"On the evening of closest approach on Dec 21 they will look like a double planet, separated by only 1/5th the diameter of the full moon," said Hartigan, a professor of physics and astronomy. "For most telescope viewers, each planet and several of their largest moons will be visible in the same field of view that evening."
 
The Chinese have unveiled a new architecture for manned lunar missions. They are talking about new deep space capsules, landers and rovers. They have also stopped talking about a rocket called Long March 9 which was supposed to be an SLS-like vehicle and are instead now base lining a launch vehicle a bit more like the Falcon Heavy though without reuse being an integral component.

The Chinese are also trying to sell this program domestically by talking about how they have to rely on only their own ingenuity and know-how since they are locked out of participation in international projects by the US.

New rocket:
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https://spacenews.com/china-outlines-architecture-for-future-crewed-moon-landings/



ESA announced a delay to Ariane 6's debut to 2022 and is requested an additional 230 million euros to complete the project.
https://spacenews.com/esa-request-2...for-ariane-6-as-maiden-flights-slips-to-2022/
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There is a very real threat that by the time Ariane 6 is flying it will be restricted to only flying European government missions and completely sidelined on the commercial market by Falcon 9's ever decreasing price and increasing schedule certainty. This would be a complete reversal of fortunes as previously it was the Ariane 5 which sidelined the American launchers to government-only flights.


LM-9 is back on the menu, I believe. LM-8 is rolled out and while not reusable (1st stage) yet, they might gun for it. LM-9 by 2030, LM-9 reusable circa 2035, LM-8 reusable 2025?

Ariane has a poor future ahead of it, that's for sure.

If Starship blows everything out of the water by c. 2025, then LM-9's reusability, or a LM-10 VTVL TSTO or SSTO (fingers crossed) design may follow. I don't know what Europe is doing - still betting on the Skylon?
 
Skylon has morphed into perpetual engine development for the big prime aerospace companies. They seem to have dropped their ambitions of a spaceplane as best I can tell and instead are doing hypersonic R&D.
 
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BBC said:
Puerto Rico: Iconic Arecibo Observatory telescope collapses

A huge radio telescope in Puerto Rico has collapsed after decades of astronomical discoveries.

The US National Science Foundation (NSF) said the telescope's 900-ton instrument platform fell onto a reflector dish some 450ft (137m) below.

It came just weeks after officials announced that the telescope would be dismantled amid safety fears, following damage to its support system.

The Arecibo Observatory telescope was one of the largest in the world.

It was a key scientific resource for radio astronomers for 57 years, and was also made famous as the backdrop for a scene in the James Bond film GoldenEye and other Hollywood films.

The NSF said there had been no reports of injuries following the collapse.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55147973
 
China lands the first sample return mission in 50 years on the moon on the same day Arecibo totally collapses. The symbolism is thick.
 
Monetising Space Mining (but it does not sound like a get rich scheme)

Nasa is paying a Colorado-based company $1 (£0.74) to collect a small sample of rocks from the moon.
Lunar Outpost is among four firms awarded contracts to retrieve lunar regolith, or moon soil, for the US space agency, for a total of $25,001.
Nasa will use the soil in its Artemis programme, which aims to send the next man and a woman to the moon by 2024.
The awards for the three companies will be paid in a three-step process. A total of 10% of the funds at the time of the award, 10% when the company launches its collection spacecraft, and 80% when Nasa verifies the company collected the material. "the $1 will come in three tiny but important instalments of $0.10, $0.10, and $0.80"
Admittedly:

The innovation here is not of financial value but of creating business and legal norms of creating a market of buyers and sellers outside of Earth's constraints​
 
well , won't happen , this Rich dudes getting rights and licences to own celestial objects and what not .
 
BBC said:
Asteroid capsule 'found' in Australian desert

A recovery team in Australia has found a space capsule carrying the first large quantities of rock from an asteroid.

The capsule, containing material from a space rock called Ryugu, parachuted down near Woomera in South Australia.

The samples were originally collected by a Japanese spacecraft called Hayabusa-2, which spent more than a year investigating the object.

The container detached from Hayabusa-2, later entering the Earth's atmosphere.

The official Hayabusa-2 Twitter account reported that the capsule and its parachute had been found at 19:47 GMT.

Earlier on Saturday, the capsule was picked up by cameras as a dazzling fireball streaking over Australia's Coober Pedy region.

Screaming towards Earth at 11km/s, it deployed parachutes to slow its descent. The capsule then began transmitting a beacon with information about its position.

The spacecraft touched down on the vast Woomera range, operated by the Royal Australian Air Force.

At around 18:07 GMT, the recovering team identified where the capsule had landed. A helicopter, equipped with an antenna to pick up the beacon, took to the air shortly afterwards to hunt for the container.

The capsule will now be taken to a "quick-look facility" for inspection before being airlifted to Japan.

The 16kg container will be transported to a curation chamber at the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (Jaxa) in Sagamihara for analysis and storage.

The mission planned to collect a sample of more than 100mg from the asteroid Ryugu.

Prof Alan Fitzsimmons, from Queen's University Belfast, said the sample would "reveal a huge amount, not only about the history of the Solar System, but about these particular objects as well".

Asteroids are essentially leftover building materials from the formation of the Solar System. They're made of the same stuff that went into building worlds like Earth, but they avoided being incorporated into planets.

"Having samples from an asteroid like Ryugu will be really exciting for our field. We think Ryugu is made up of super-ancient rocks that will tell us how the Solar System formed," Prof Sara Russell, leader of the planetary materials group at London's Natural History Museum, told BBC News.

Studying the samples grabbed from Ryugu could tell us how water and the ingredients for life were delivered to the early Earth.

It had long been thought that comets delivered much of the Earth's water in the early days of the Solar System. Alan Fitzsimmons said the chemical profile of water in comets was sometimes different from the profile of water in our planet's oceans.

The water composition of some asteroids in the outer Solar System, however, is a much closer match. Ryugu probably originated in this cold zone, before migrating inwards to its current orbit, closer to Earth.

"It may be that we've been looking to comets all this time for delivering water to Earth in the early Solar System. Perhaps we should have been looking a bit closer to home, at these primitive but rather rocky asteroids," Prof Fitzsimmons told BBC News.

"Indeed that's something that will be looked at very carefully in these Ryugu samples."
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-55201662
 
so , you mean they did have the money to send a probe to an astreoid but lacked a little more to put a beeper so that they could track it if they failed with radar ? And they also still can't make things drop where they choose so that it must be found ? Hmm , prosperity .

edit : Hmm , ı can't understand English ?
 
november 9th , post 4531 or so . This guy re-appears elsewhere , where ı will not risk my last remaining fake membership thing to answer , even if it is known from the lP adresses . Claims something of a similar scale when he must have been a teen , it even blew up a village . GRU will tell him no such thing happened , there is no need to claim ownership of a fake thing because as the site atmosphere over there should have taught him long ago that only Americans are allowed to have alien defying weapons or anything scalar and he was still well received because Ml7 wants a continued impression of interest still existing , like in a regular way . You know , r16 garbage , would make some sense but you need 15 A4 pages of text . No , anyone conducting military operations against the Soviet Union in 1988 with the so called 13000 years old orbital battle station supposedly named the Dark Knight , because it has a Wayne lndustries logo on the airlock as a way of trolling would not be blowing up some village to hit a missile silo . The term commando have been existing since 1890 something , right ?

translation : An American blogger's attempt to fill pages causes Russians to claim they had a fake tech for real , as proven by the fact that they accidentally almost blew up a sizeable town , 'cause Russians are so accident prone .
 
will not work for Russia either , the Obama era signature campaign was -beyond the obvious lark factor also- designed to create an impression like America could and all mods have been already imagined and stuff
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have been keeping this on the tablet since downloading on August 26th , thanks for the opportunity .
 
The Chinese lunar sample return mission is almost over. It landed, scooped soil and blasted back into orbit. Then the ascent stage performed and autonomous rendezvous and docking with the return stage (a world first) and handed off the sample. They crashed the ascent stage on the moon (planned) and now the return stage is on the way back.
 
The Spaceship went up, and came back down, and didn't make the landing, but there's like three more on the production line. SpaceX will call this a success, got up to 13.5? KM, that's all they 'officially' care about.
 
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