The Welcome to America thread

Gary Childress

Student for and of life
Joined
May 11, 2007
Messages
4,480
Location
United Nations
Poll: Confused by issues of the day? Join the club

By CONNIE CASS

From Associated Press
September 27, 2014 2:21 AM EST

WASHINGTON (AP) — Confused by the federal health care law? How about the debate over NSA surveillance? The way the Federal Reserve affects interest rates?

You're far from alone.

Most Americans say the issues facing the country are getting harder to fathom.

It's not just people who've tuned out politics who feel perplexed. Those paying attention — people who vote regularly, follow news about November's midterm election, or simply feel a civic duty to stay informed — are most likely to say that issues have become "much more complicated" over the last decade, an Associated Press-GfK poll shows.

Why are things such a muddle?

Karla Lynn of Lavaca, Arkansas, blames politicians who would rather snipe at each other than honestly explain the nation's problems in straightforward terms.

"They'll spin everything," said Lynn, 61, a retired product developer. "You've got to wade through so much muck to try to find the truth."

It's a big swamp to wade through....

David Stewart blames the deluge from social media, partisan blogs and 24-hour news sites for complicating things. At one time people would only see a news story about a violent group like the Islamic State, he said, but now they watch the militants' videos of beheadings online.

"People get a little overwhelmed by all the information about what's going on in the world," said Stewart, 40, a salesman at a home improvement store in Georgetown, Kentucky. The father of three said it takes time from an already busy life to go online and sort out "what's fluff, what's been engineered, and what's actually true and believable."

The issue that stumps Stewart most? President Barack Obama's health care overhaul. It can sound like a tragedy or a godsend, depending whether Republicans or Democrats are talking about it.

Nearly three-fourths of Americans find it difficult, according to the AP-GfK poll, and about 4 in 10 say it's "very hard" to understand.

One obvious reason: The law really is complex. Politicians even say so.

Republicans were condemning "Obamacare" as a regulatory morass even before it passed. When the federal website enrolling people crashed last year, Obama himself pointed to the enormous size of the undertaking. "It's complicated," he said. "It's hard."

Politicians do try to make issues sound simpler. They like to invoke your own family budget when talking about the national debt.

But in the AP-GfK poll, confidence in dealing with household problems didn't offer much help in understanding national matters. For example, most under age 30 said it's easy to protect your privacy and financial information online. But most young adults think it's hard to understand the National Security Agency's data collection programs. Americans over age 50 find both personal computer security and the NSA issue difficult.

The interest rates you pay? Wealthier people are more likely to find rates on personal loans easy to understand. But the poll shows no difference by income in comprehending the Fed's interest rate policy.

And then there are the international problems that ensnare the U.S.

In his speech to the United Nations last week, Obama spoke of terrorists in Iraq and Syria as the type of danger that threatens a faster-paced, interconnected world.

What began 13 years ago as a U.S. campaign to destroy al-Qaida has evolved into battles against numerous offshoots.

"Right now, in my estimation, the problems are much more variegated and much more complex and diffuse than they've ever been," said Bruce Hoffman, a Georgetown University historian who has studied terrorism for four decades.

Among Americans strongly interested in political news, nearly 6 in 10 say political issues facing the United States are "much more complicated" than a decade ago.

Of course, creating Medicare and waging the Cold War weren't easy, either.

Perhaps nostalgia blurs people's judgment of current troubles?

Sheila Suess Kennedy, director of the Indiana University Center for Civic Literacy, thinks there's more to it.

"Not only are we dealing with a more complex environment, we are dealing with a more ambiguous environment," Kennedy said. "People want 'this is good and this is bad.' Increasingly we live with 'there's black and there's white and there's a whole lot of gray.'"


The AP-GfK Poll was conducted July 24-28 using KnowledgePanel, GfK's probability-based online panel designed to be representative of the U.S. population. Results from online interviews with 1,044 adults have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points.

Respondents were first selected randomly using phone or mail survey methods, and later interviewed online. Some question wording used in this survey comes from the General Social Survey, conducted by NORC at the University of Chicago. People selected for KnowledgePanel who didn't otherwise have access to the Internet were provided with the ability to access the Internet at no cost.

___

AP Director of Polling Jennifer Agiesta contributed to this report.

Comment on whichever part (or all of them) you feel the need to. Because quite frankly I am in agreement with the statement quoted in the last part by Sheila Suess Kennedy, director of the Indiana University Center for Civic Literacy.

Thank you for this opportunity to speak. . .
 
I live in a simple place. One thing I don't miss in the US are the constant bombardments for attention. Advertisements are out of control in the consumer economy. Then there's so much that people want you to care about, and even more stuff they want you to be scared of, all to motivate you into one position or another. Its insane. So, here they take an animal out and use it to plow a field, kids play games in the streets and go to school without fear, its like back when I grew up. Simple life, less stress, few problems, and I'm not bothered by endless BS all the time.
 
Yeah. I know what you mean CavLancer. Life with technology and all the power needed to run it is just insane. I don't want to go back to using horses for transportation but if ISIS pushes too hard who knows what the future holds. I saw a video of them yesterday. They were attacking and fighting with big smiles on their face, the videos were close up and you could tell they were invigorated and content with what they are doing. You would think they were the happiest people on Earth just to be killing Kurds and other minorities in the region. Who knows where that will stop?
 
I don't, but folks like that are why they invented bombs, or should have been.

The big concern here is China. They seem to think they can take whatever they want without regard to international law and are aggressive about it. It will come to war, almost has to. Where that war will end I don't know.

Add to that the changes in the sun and solar system, increased earthquakes and what I believe to be signs of imminent large scale volcanic increase and to me it seems that the end is nigh as they say. Years ago I couldn't see the writing on the wall but its becoming evident. The nice thing about living in a quieter place is the lack of endless drama surrounding every last little thing. If the human race is scrod I would have it go peacefully.
 
America is an alright place. From my experience Americans themselves are generally friendly and easy to get along with folk, aside from people working at fast food joints in the great midwest. (Those people can all go to hell)

America has a couple great cities and a lot of natural beauty worth visiting.. Your taxes are super low, everything is really cheap, and you create a lot of entertaining music and movies.

One thing I hate about America is how you welcome visitors, though. Your border crossings are the worst - each time I enter your country you make me feel like a criminal. Other countries welcome me with open arms and smiles, for the most part. As such I don't view America as such a welcoming country, but once you get there, it's actually a pretty neat place.
 
The fast food people get crapped on 8 hours a day. Even when people are nice it's a crap job and it doesn't pay. Just be satisfied if they don't herkin their jerkin in yer tofurkin.
 
America is an alright place. From my experience Americans themselves are generally friendly and easy to get along with folk, aside from people working at fast food joints in the great midwest. (Those people can all go to hell)

America has a couple great cities and a lot of natural beauty worth visiting.. Your taxes are super low, everything is really cheap, and you create a lot of entertaining music and movies.

One thing I hate about America is how you welcome visitors, though. Your border crossings are the worst - each time I enter your country you make me feel like a criminal. Other countries welcome me with open arms and smiles, for the most part. As such I don't view America as such a welcoming country, but once you get there, it's actually a pretty neat place.

That can't be right, we've got a whole big statue whose only purpose is to beckon the huddled masses. :blush:
 
Fast food employees elsewhere on the planet have much higher standards, from my experience. These are the standards I'm used to and these are the standards I will judge them by.

Do they make more than US minimum wage? It's one of the reasons things have to be so cheap here. So the folks that work 8+ hours a day serving food don't wind up starving themselves.
 
Farm Boy, that is all a tangent and not really worth discussing here I don't think. I'm singing out the mid west (or maybe just the rural mid west? *shrug*), not all fast food employees in the whole country. Ones I encountered in Chicago and in all of California were very good at customer service (and at smiling and saying "you're welcome"). Same with south carolina and vegas, unless I'm misremembering something.
 
Alright, dismissed then.
 
Among Americans strongly interested in political news, nearly 6 in 10 say political issues facing the United States are "much more complicated" than a decade ago.

I dunno. Many of the issues in America are pretty much the same as 10 years ago. Terrorism, the War in Iraq, the National Budget, Health Care, Immigration, Gay Rights, Racial/Gender Equality. These are basically the same issues we were dealing with 10 years ago, only they've morphed into slightly different forms.

Why are things such a muddle?

Karla Lynn of Lavaca, Arkansas, blames politicians who would rather snipe at each other than honestly explain the nation's problems in straightforward terms.

Hardly exclusive to present day America. Spin, misinformation, and different points of view have existed since humans have existed.

Of course, creating Medicare and waging the Cold War weren't easy, either.
:agree:
 
I'll go with the "nostalgia" explanation. Details are often forgotten with time.
 
Back
Top Bottom