Chaos_BF1942
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Bugfatty300 said:
That not psychic, odds are great that people would say Bush is a dictator.
Anyways my fave one is number 8. He seems amoung the most insane of the group.
The Worlds 10 Worst Dictators
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That not psychic, odds are great that people would say Bush is a dictator.
Anyways my fave one is number 8. He seems amoung the most insane of the group.
Xanikk999
History junkie
numidian said:
Actually... There are more then 2 parties in fact theres HUNDREDS its just that the main parties are well established and can raise money and the other parties dont have a rats ass of winning because they are not well known. This isnt the only country with limited amounts of major parties either. But i see what your saying.
And do you know what an oligarchy is? Referring to the U.S as an oligarchy tells me you dont know what your talking about.
Xanikk999
History junkie
Regarding what you said about "there is nothing free or democratic about the united states". That is not true to anyone who looks at all the facts.
First of all there is more politicking done in the U.S besides what the president does. And is i said before in another thread, the U.S presedent has a lot less power even with the patriot act then compared to other democratic presidents, like in france. Nobodies calling shirak a dictator because he has more power to make sweeping changes to legislation and the government more so then our president has. Study government. Some countries do invest more power in thier leader then the united states.
First of all there is more politicking done in the U.S besides what the president does. And is i said before in another thread, the U.S presedent has a lot less power even with the patriot act then compared to other democratic presidents, like in france. Nobodies calling shirak a dictator because he has more power to make sweeping changes to legislation and the government more so then our president has. Study government. Some countries do invest more power in thier leader then the united states.
Xanikk999 said:Actually... There are more then 2 parties in fact theres HUNDREDS its just that the main parties are well established and can raise money and the other parties dont have a rats ass of winning because they are not well known. This isnt the only country with limited amounts of major parties either. But i see what your saying.
And do you know what an oligarchy is? Referring to the U.S as an oligarchy tells me you dont know what your talking about.
An oligarchy is defined as rule by the few. I think that about sums up the American political structure. You have two political parties that have been firmly entrenched politcally for nearly a century. Nobody else has a chance because they don't have the capital and recognition to compete. It takes money to win political seats. Millions and millions.
Xanikk999
History junkie
Its not a few unless you only mean bush, cheney, and a few cabinet members, but thats not the case. These few people rely on hundreds of others to enforce their issues
Every bill or law or act or whatever has to be passed by the house or the senate or both. The senate has 100 senators 2 from each of the 50 U.S states and the house of representatives has well over 200 members. That is not an oligarchy. Nobody has firm power. The powers that the president has only rest in himself. Its called checks and balances in this country. It still applies even when bush is in power.
Though i cant argue that politics is not corrupt but the corruption is evident in all countries on the globe.
Every bill or law or act or whatever has to be passed by the house or the senate or both. The senate has 100 senators 2 from each of the 50 U.S states and the house of representatives has well over 200 members. That is not an oligarchy. Nobody has firm power. The powers that the president has only rest in himself. Its called checks and balances in this country. It still applies even when bush is in power.
Though i cant argue that politics is not corrupt but the corruption is evident in all countries on the globe.
Xanikk999
History junkie
numidian said:
You think thats an injustice that it takes money? People dont work for free. The candidate has to hire campaign managers, advisors, and other personell and pay for political activities and fundraiser events. Hey it may not be fair that not anyone can run for president but its not feasable to make it cost nothing.
CoolioVonHoolio
Quit WoW, back to Civ.
it would be more entertaining for all dictators, past and present.
Bugfatty300
Buddha Squirrel
numidian said:
Wow. You know nothing of the US government structure do you?
There is the President, his cabinet, homeland security, The Senate, House of representatives, the Supreme Court.
That’s like 800 people right there.
Then there are governors (1 for each state) and there are state legislatures of which there are about 10,000. Then there are county commissioners which number about 7 or 8 per county and there are 3000 counties in the US. So that’s over 20,000 right there. Then there are judges, fire marshals, boards of whatever, police chiefs for every town in the US. And there are what? 30,000 or 40,000 towns and cities in the US? So god knows how many of them there are.
This is how it works in just about every Western country (more or less)
Bronx Warlord
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Well BF, it's eazier to just spit out a line of BS than really look into tha matters at hand. It's not like the guy was re-elected or anything ya know ; )
Swiss Bezerker
Emperor
Urederra said:
He lost the election, and yet he is still president. Tottaly do to blood and parenthood. Im not saying that he is a dictator, but he shares many quality with dictator's (removing human rights, ect)
BTW, I expect a Stewie Griffin quote on Parade Magazine
Bugfatty300
Buddha Squirrel
Bronx Warlord said:
Yep. Everyone knows he rigged the Ohio vote. After all how could Americans NOT elect John Kerry!
Bugfatty300
Buddha Squirrel
Swiss Bezerker said:
Nope. He very much won that election.
Swiss Bezerker
Emperor
OH BTW
seems acurate, ill take back that dubya is a dictator
seems acurate, ill take back that dubya is a dictator
Bronx Warlord
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Kerry " I fought in Vietnam "
Me " Ok great John what else "
Kerry " Iraq is Vietnam "
Me " Ok John, put that scotch and bottle of pills down... what else? "
Kerry " I got a Silver Star *****! "
Me " Yeah Oooorah on that but really John... what else? "
Kerry " I fought in Vietnam.. and Dick Cheneys daughter is a fish eating dyke! "
Me, no longer bothering to ask or listen
newfangle
hates you.
Pretty horrifying stuff. Concretizes the reasons why I have the politcal views I do.
The Tollan
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The fact that there are only two viable political parties in the United States is due to a fairly large extent on how votes are tabulated (for the most part it is first past the post). If proportional representation were introduced then there would be a substantially larger amount of political parties on the national level.
The United States has a mixture of democratic, oligarchic and autocratic (the president represents elected autocracy, which is a substantial dose of autocracy plus some democracy) elements. Most countries have at least some degree of each of these elements however the distribution varies quite a bit. The democratic element is strong enough (it is above the overall world average) for it to be labeled as a democratic republic.
It does not fit into the hard core non-democratic oligarchies that have existed and do exist. It would be more accurate to call the United States an oligarchy than an autocracy or dictatorship though it still would not be entirely accurate. Unless you are comparing the U.S. to a direct democracy it can be considered to be fairly democratic (at minimum enough to be classified as democratic) The democratic element does exist and most texts on political science recognize this fact and label the U.S. as one of the democratic countries/states.
I have to say that this is quite amazing (in a negative fashion). The death penalty must be applied to many innocent people in the PRC.
The United States has a mixture of democratic, oligarchic and autocratic (the president represents elected autocracy, which is a substantial dose of autocracy plus some democracy) elements. Most countries have at least some degree of each of these elements however the distribution varies quite a bit. The democratic element is strong enough (it is above the overall world average) for it to be labeled as a democratic republic.
It does not fit into the hard core non-democratic oligarchies that have existed and do exist. It would be more accurate to call the United States an oligarchy than an autocracy or dictatorship though it still would not be entirely accurate. Unless you are comparing the U.S. to a direct democracy it can be considered to be fairly democratic (at minimum enough to be classified as democratic) The democratic element does exist and most texts on political science recognize this fact and label the U.S. as one of the democratic countries/states.
I have to say that this is quite amazing (in a negative fashion). The death penalty must be applied to many innocent people in the PRC.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Swiss Bezerker said:
This statement shows the level of intelligence that the left is capable of.
I mean really. He didnt lose the election. But some people just cant get over it that he won. Seek therapy.
What human rights of yours has he removed? Hint. The answer is none.
Japanrocks12
tired of being a man
Bush IS an idiot, but is far from being a dictator. He has not committed any humanitarian crimes. Sure, he has conservatives in Congress, but they will impeach him if he does anything of the sort.
Fox Mccloud
Deity
well, i guess I am an Idiot now.
If I told you the truth, the mods might give me a warning.....
But I think you know what I would say.
That doesn't prove anything.
The left will always say the most ******** things. Their so predictable.
Also, I don't know where people get the Idea Bush is and idiot. Like MobBoss said:
Bush won Florida ( a state governed by his brother and in which the election officials had close ties to the Bush family) in 2000 because of a very poorly designed balot that somehow managed to steal votes from his main rival and give them to some obsure third party. Only a person dumb enough to vote for Bush would not see anything fishy about that
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