Erik Mesoy
Core Tester / Intern
Peter: No, I swear, he said - "Yay, I say unto you, Mankind was not created of clay but was created by intentionally modifying apes so that humans developed a sense of language that allowed complex semantics to be created"
John: You're crapping me? We're out here trying to push that Jesus is God. Are you telling me he doesn't even know what Moses wrote? I didn't come from no ape!

Of course, much of the same could probably go for Moses.
God: "First, and here I mean 'first' in the absolute sense that there isn't even a concept of 'before' because this event was what brought time into being, I created the universe in a fireball of such great heat and small size..."
Moses: "Dude, I'm just going to write that you created the earth and the heavens."
God: "This happened about 13 thousands of thousands of thousands of years ago..." (Editor's note: Stupid billions, here in Norway we call them milliards and use 'billion' to refer to the next number up.)
Moses: "How does 'in the beginning' sound?"
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Please explain which definition of holy you're using, because I don't see that holiness is incompatible with death. The first three in my dictionary are:1. The main problem that I have is that it changes the Nature of God. How can an holy God have death and suffering as part of his plan? That is what the geological record shows a history of death, since there are plenty animals that died way before humans. This is the pre-eminent attribute of God that he is Holy. Isaiah 6:3 say "Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts". If God did use Evolution, then he is certainly not Holy, since he made death as an intricate part of this world and since the Bible says "The Wages of sin is death." (Romans 6:23) According to the Bible Death is a result of sin, so that means that God created sin.
Also the Bible clearly states that God said that what he had done was very good, so for him to say that death is very good, then something must be wrong with him.
1) specially recognized as or declared sacred by religious use or authority; consecrated
2) dedicated or devoted to (the service of) God, the church, or religion
3) saintly; godly; pious; devout
All of these appear to be relatively tangential.
I quote from Romans 6 in return:
"How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. For he who has died has been freed from sin."
Otherwise, I second downtown's opinion on physical death and spiritual death.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, because you've got a dangling "if" without any "then" following it, and the "but" in the next sentence has no antecedent that is visible to me.2. It makes God as someone who does not care. This is here since if God just used a random process to get us where we are right now. But The Bible does say that "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
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I think I should wait for c_h to post a bit more before I say anything more, or else I'll end up beating at hypothetical constructs. (Similar to strawmen, only I don't claim to have won, and so the argument is just useless.
