There is a CHANCE that God exists...? What the...

[brennan]

The fact that you don't believe in something does not make it an invalid possibility or give it any degree of likelihood of not existing.

See? I can do that too!

Correct, but the fact that something is not possible makes it's possibility of existing=0.

 

[GenMarshall]

Correct, but the fact that something is not possible makes it's possibility of existing=0.

Once again, I disagree with you. No matter how much rubbish that you cast out. I still state that God exists and that he is a possibility that he exist no matter what.

 

[Azale]

Correct, but the fact that something is not possible makes it's possibility of existing=0.

Who died and made you....God?

NOONE can say with absolute certainty that God does not exist, as we are barely scratching the surface of our understanding of how this universe came into being.

 

[brennan]

See? I can pull the same old rhetoric as well .

See above. I am not foolish enough to be making the same mistake as you. I do not deny the God hypothesis because I do not believe i n it, I deny it because it is incompatible with what we know about the universe. Hence impossible.

Then I suggest that you learn how to be tolerant towards people who have a different belief than you do. No one is going to agree with your belief. I strongly suggest that you mature some more and respect other people's beliefs instead of casting them off as a joke, irrational, or show that you are above religious people. You will find yourself with a negative outcome if you continue this path.

I do not see 'belief' as an acceptable reason to excuse the ridiculous from ridicule.

 

[Mango]

I can't believe somebody made a topic because they don't understand the concept of probability.

 

[emzie]

See above. I am not foolish enough to be making the same mistake as you. I do not deny the God hypothesis because I do not believe i n it, I deny it because it is incompatible with what we know about the universe. Hence impossible.

So Einstein was an idiot then?

 

[nivi]

See above. I am not foolish enough to be making the same mistake as you. I do not deny the God hypothesis because I do not believe i n it, I deny it because it is incompatible with what we know about the universe. Hence impossible.I do not see 'belief' as an acceptable reason to excuse the ridiculous from ridicule.

Oh so we know everything about the universe?

 

[brennan]

Who died and made you....God?

NOONE can say with absolute certainty that God does not exist, as we are barely scratching the surface of our understanding of how this universe came into being.

Dave Lister?

I have to ask, what do you know about our understanding of the universe? Why do you think we are just scratching the surface? And if we hardly know anything now, then what did the early christian church know? What did Mohammed know? Why should we attribute them with special knowledge?

 

[emzie]

Dave Lister?

I have to ask, what do you know about our understanding of the universe? Why do you think we are just scratching the surface? And if we hardly know anything now, then what did the early christian church know? What did Mohammed know? Why should we attribute them with special knowledge?

Why do you believe that the God of Abraham is the only idea of god possible?

 

[SG-17]

We cant prove he doesn't exist and thats good enough for me. And it will stay that way, until the end of time, their will always be religion, no matter what, it may become the minority belief, maybe only a handful will believe, but that is enough, we are humans(well most of us) we need religion, to give us our morals, guide our lives, and most of all give us hope. Man was given the knowledge of a God. I wonder who gave them that.

So you believe in every conceivable thing that you can't prove doesn't exist?

Whats your point? And no, there are some things can't be disproved that I dont believe in.

 

[Fifty]

See above. I am not foolish enough to be making the same mistake as you. I do not deny the God hypothesis because I do not believe i n it, I deny it because it is incompatible with what we know about the universe. Hence impossible.I do not see 'belief' as an acceptable reason to excuse the ridiculous from ridicule.

So you think that there is no chance that our current knowledge could be incorrect? Surely something can be beyond our current knowledge or even incompatible with our current knowledge and still be POSSIBLE. Note the difference between possible and probable.

 

[nivi]

Dave Lister?

Why do you think we are just scratching the surface?

*COUGH*

How much do we know about dark energy and matter?

 

[brennan]

So Einstein was an idiot then?

Why? Because he believed in God? I'll let Einstein answer that

:"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly..."

wiki

Oh so we know everything about the universe?

It seems to me that we are, in terms of the real basics, such as quantum mechanics, very close to knowing the fundamentals yes.

 

[GenMarshall]

Who died and made you....God?

I think the Pope did or a Muslim cleric .

I am not foolish enough to be making the same mistake as you.

Sorry, I am not foolish to make mistakes in regards to the existence of God.

I do not deny the God hypothesis because I do not believe i n it

Well of course you dont believe in it, youre an atheist . But thats fine if you chose to not believe in it.

I deny it because it is incompatible with what we know about the universe. Hence impossible.

Once again, I will disagree with you on this one highly. I see the God hypothesis as compatible with the universe and thus is not impossible.

I do not see 'belief' as an acceptable reason to excuse the ridiculous from ridicule.

Well I am sorry to tell you, but belief is an acceptable reason to excuse the believer from ridicule. It's called religious tolerance, and I suggest that you learn it real fast and grow up or you will be faced with a punch in the nose by some offended Muslim, Jew, Christian, etc.

Once again, learn real fast that belief is an acceptable reason to excuse the religious from ridicule. So long as they are not hurting anyone, there belief should be respected and tolerated. Not ridiculed and persecuted.

Again, this is why I don't stomach your kind of intolerant atheism (including the brand that was held by the USSR and Communist China) and thinking that your above religious people and look down upon them and laugh and persecute them.

 

[SG-17]

How much do we know about dark energy and matter?

Next to nothing.

 

[nivi]

in terms of the real basics, such as quantum mechanics, very close to knowing the fundamentals yes.

Every dacade had fools like you, lucky for us there were also people who were doing science and infoming us of knew "fundamentals".

 

[GenMarshall]

Every dacade had fools like you, lucky for us there were also people who were doing science and infoming us of knew "fundamentals".

I wonder what happened to fools like them, especially if they are religiously intolerant?

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

I wonder what happened to fools like them, especially if they are religiously intolerant?

Zarn can tell you

 

[emzie]

Why? Because he believed in God? I'll let Einstein answer thatwiki
It seems to me that we are, in terms of the real basics, such as quantum mechanics, very close to knowing the fundamentals yes.

Not all ideas of god must be a personal god. You're denying the chance of any type of god.

 

[brennan]

Why do you believe that the God of Abraham is the only idea of god possible?

Strawman. I don't. It gets quite tiresome to have the old 'well I don't believe in a big white beard in the sky' line traipsed out again.

So you think that there is no chance that our current knowledge could be incorrect? Surely something can be beyond our current knowledge or even incompatible with our current knowledge and still be POSSIBLE. Note the difference between possible and probable.

Oh, i'll grant that it's possible, but (as I said recently on another topic) I think that in order to avoid an infinite regression problem there has to be a level at which our knowledge can no longer be expanded - a point at which questions like 'what causes this' become meaningless. IMO our explorations into hidden variables and the strangeness of Quantum Mechanics may well show that we have reached this point.

Bear in mind that current explanations for our Astronomical and Quantum observations include the existence of several dimensions of existence: many worlds, branes, bubble universes spawning through white holes etc. Such an explanation not only arises from a set of quite simple rules, but is vastly more impressive than the Aristotelian universe that was widely believed in several centuries ago. If such extraordinarily complicated scenarios arise from trying to explain what we know now, is it wildly optimistic to hope that this shows our understanding to be nearly complete?

*COUGH*

How much do we know about dark energy and matter?

Look it up on wiki. There was a thread last year(?) about an image of a distant galaxy that showed the existence of suspected dark matter via gravitational lensing. There are many candidate explanations for types of objects that could be dark matter, notably WIMPS, MACHOS and dark energy. All of which arise from known theory, and thus do not suggest that we are missing anything.