This game is crazy good!

I think it's obvious that they'll release several patches that are rich in features. It looks like a lot of stuff were cut to make the release date, and they probably have a long backlog of items they're currently working on. There are lots of TODOs in the lua-files, and we see this in the preview videos where for example there was a restart-button (that was not in use) and they apologised for the "placeholder art", for great people (the same art currently in the game).

This is a natural consequence of having a fixed release date, and personally I think it's a good thing. The game will evolve for years to come and is not "done" for a long time yet. The released game is the minimum marketable feature.
 
I agree the base game is good but there is a lot to be improved. My hope is it will get better or else mod will fix it. There are some definite serious balance issues with terrain, trade routes, and science/hammers that need to be addressed, and some issues with the AI that desperately need to be patched.
 
I agree, this is an awesome game! I've already got 45-plus hours in it and I can't stop playing.

Unlike the recent Civ releases, this one is feature-complete, and the new features are so compelling: districts, less-tedious builders, agendas, civics tree, Eurekas, social-policy cards, cool new espionage. I even kinda like the religious game so far, but I've been lucky -- I haven't face really nasty apostle spam yet. (Just four or five of them from the evil English.) Yeah, there are lots of annoying minor UI things, but they're minor, and I'm sure they'll be patched. The AI seems to me an order of magnitude better than the Civ 5 AI was at launch, and while it obviously needs improvement, I think that might actually be in the cards. Plus the new multiplayer system looks like a great alternative to playing the AI -- I've watched streamers get through 100 turns in an evening, which isn't bad.

Game of the year for me, at this point. :)
 
Hardly surprising. There's only so much you can talk about when the topic is: "This game is great!", but you can go on forever when talking about the bad things, discuss how to change stuff, etc.

While I agree the game is good it is obviously flawed, and there's a lot of things that can be fixed to make it even better.

This is the truth, you'll probably see me complaining a lot for example... mostly about the UI. If I didn't love the game, I would be elsewhere doing other things. I imagine this is the same for many.

In terms of expressing how much I like the game, I'd much rather just play it, which no one is exposed to. So there is that bias there if you're judging people's disposition based on what appears here.
 
As usual its taking awhile to grow on me. Civ V was unique as it didn't take very long at all for me to pick up the new concepts. I was actually left with a "thats all there is ?" feeling. But my first play through I played all the way through.

This is more like III and IV and its taking me awhile to adjust. Districts, wonder constraints, amenities, and housing...there is a lot going on.

After my 2nd attempt at playing I finally got into "one more turn" mode. The builder in me is thrilled with what they've done with the cities. My two starts have been isolated, I'm grateful for that as its allowed me to tinker away with the new city mechanics.

The biggest barrier for me is the UI, really felt like the hit they pinnacle in V in terms of presenting you with the important stuff while giving easy access additional information. While I can see the appeal of a mod like InfoAddict, it was just too much for me to process. Hoping with additional time, I'll come to appreciate the interface more.

For the time being though, I'm enjoying the tweaks they've made to cities.
 
If you're competitively minded, then you're probably too good to play any Civ game against the AI and should seek other real players. Let's be honest: AI always sucks in every game. This AI is pretty bad even by those standards, but it's still a lot better than the initial Civ V AI or even the initial Civ IV AI, as I remember it. That's not too bad, when you consider the increased complexity of Civ VI. I expect future patches to make it even better.
Civ5 was great for a more competitive approach. I usually played on Emperor - I always won, but the AI gave me a challenge. Sometimes I played on immortal or Deity and it was certainly possible for me to lose on these difficulties. Took me an eternity to finally beat the game on Deity (I try to do that without exploits, Duel maps or stuff like that).

I mostly played Civ4 and Civ5 in multiplayer actually, always with a friend of mine who was better than me. But you still need a decent AI for this to be fun.

And I diagree that the AI is better than Civ5's initial release AI. I've never seen nonsense like in Civ6 in that game. The diplomacy AI was maybe worse than it is in Civ6 now, but barely.
 
Civ5 was great for a more competitive approach. I usually played on Emperor - I always won, but the AI gave me a challenge. Sometimes I played on immortal or Deity and it was certainly possible for me to lose on these difficulties. Took me an eternity to finally beat the game on Deity (I try to do that without exploits, Duel maps or stuff like that).

I mostly played Civ4 and Civ5 in multiplayer actually, always with a friend of mine who was better than me. But you still need a decent AI for this to be fun.

And I diagree that the AI is better than Civ5's initial release AI. I've never seen nonsense like in Civ6 in that game. The diplomacy AI was maybe worse than it is in Civ6 now, but barely.

You must be thinking of the later Civ V AI. The initial AI was very bad!
 
Not only is the AI better than Civ V's was at release, it is better than Civ V's current AI, 6 years after release. It can move AND shoot in the same turn now, something it never could do in V.

Now if they could only get it to stop embarking units into dangerous waters...
 
My first game as England left me with strange feeling. I liked it but sometimes wasn't sure if it's the thing. Today I started my second match with Japan. And only now I realised how good Civ Vi is! I was even thinking that this might be my all-time favorite game! After you understand how cities work, the whole strategy becomes much more interesting. Surely game needs some improvements, like UI, balance changes, diplomacy etc. but even those small issues don't prevent me from fully enjoying my time that i spend on new civ.

I already have request for next expansion: i want it to be about sea, naval exploration and treasures under the water.
Treasures under the water? That sounds like something, can you elaborate a bit more? It could be very interesting.
 
I think it's obvious that they'll release several patches that are rich in features. It looks like a lot of stuff were cut to make the release date, and they probably have a long backlog of items they're currently working on. There are lots of TODOs in the lua-files, and we see this in the preview videos where for example there was a restart-button (that was not in use) and they apologised for the "placeholder art", for great people (the same art currently in the game).

This is a natural consequence of having a fixed release date, and personally I think it's a good thing. The game will evolve for years to come and is not "done" for a long time yet. The released game is the minimum marketable feature.
We will have o wait for another 6 years for CIV 7 now.
 
I agree with the original post.

So far my experiences with the game (37 hours) make me think that it may be the best of the series. Note that I've played all the games except the first, including Colonisations, Call to Powers and mobile ones.

At this moment there's only a couple of things that really bug me, one has already been recognised as a bug and will be fixed soon, and the second is partially solved already by the community.

Well OP, as the expression says "haters gonna hate", so I suggest you to let them do their thing and enjoy the game.
 
Looking through the threads, I'm seeing quite a bit of hate. Everyone is complaining about this or that.

I think the game is incredible. The graphics are outstanding, the gameplay is awesome. And they have a Terry Pratchett quote.

There is so much about the game that I enjoy, the positive completely and massively dwarfs the bugs and irritations.

Wut? This is the worst, unfinished, unpolished, watered-down installment in the series. After 3 days I'm done. By far the quickest I've ever put this title down.

1) AI - ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE, WORST TO DATE. - F MINUS (Wow just horrible bad bad bad bad terribad AI)
less units.. seriously a "generic fighter and bomber", which require Aluminum which is horribly scarce even on huge map with resources set to abundant
2) shallow research tree - seriously, by turn 175 I'm already stroking out future tech ever 4 turns, ditto for policies
3) map builder - ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE.. I just had to restart a game 5 times because I wanted a lot of mountains and deserts... World age set to New. Temp set to Hot. Rainfall set to low. After 20 turns and 3 explorers I saw ONE mountain. Ditto for just about any other type of map I wanted... I'm CONSTANTLY having to restart the game because to map load was just horrible.
4) religion - OMG STAB ME IN THE EYE SOCKET... why is religion so annoying. I get SATURATED by bad AI pumping out scores of religious units.. and then of course his military is weak and no challenge. Religion quickly becomes an abhorrent, tedious chore that is far to management-intensive. WAY WAY WAY to much. Honestly I'd like a check box to completely disable religion all together if it's going to be this bad.
5) cities end up looking like identical cookie cutter cities, save wonders (which are fewer and less than previous 1.0 releases of this series)
6) can no longer build and control roads (MASSIVE HEAD SCRATCHER) No railroads.

LESS LESS LESS.
WATERED DOWN. WATERED DOWN. WATERED DOWN.
HALF ASS. HALF ASS. HALF ASS.

Complete and total let down for hard core strategists and empire builders... This is now a game I'd hardly play if I was stuck in some random airport with a 3-hour layover.

Such a disappointment. I took a risk and went against my "never buy in week 1 before checking the forums" policy and that's my bad. At least I warned my brother and my neighbor in time. They both have Macs anyways and god knows how long it will be before Mac versions is around. (also a no go for me since my laptop is a mac and I travel a lot... so I bought this game for something to do while out of town)

I honestly want to go back and play Civ 5 now.

I guess I'll come back in 1 year and hopefully enough mods are out to make this game into what it should have been at release.
 
Not only is the AI better than Civ V's was at release, it is better than Civ V's current AI, 6 years after release. It can move AND shoot in the same turn now, something it never could do in V.

Now if they could only get it to stop embarking units into dangerous waters...

I agree that tactically it is better. My main complaint with the ai is 1. That it simply cannot keep up technologically and 2. It doesn't upgrade units.

Honestly, I hate to say it, but they can just make it cheat by 1. Cheating the science and civic progression. 2. Making upgrades free for ai at higher difficulties. I hate having the ai cheat, but these easy balance changes could make it competitive
 
It's a very good game. Not perfect, lots of flaws, but all in all, the developers did a lot of things right. My criticisms of the game, at least, are intended to reveal design flaws so the developers and/or community can help figure out what to fix in patches/mods, because I think this game is very good, definitely worth my time playing, and could be even better.

Congrats to the devs for pulling this game off though. It's definitely at least an 8/10, maybe a 9/10, with potential for a 10/10 game in the future.
 
Especially the AI is CRAZY :crazyeye:
 
I agree that this game is great. There are just so many little things that seem like they could fix and make it even better. Some of the little problems with the game are maddening, even though the game is great overall.
 
Wut? This is the worst, unfinished, unpolished, watered-down installment in the series. After 3 days I'm done. By far the quickest I've ever put this title down.

1) AI - ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE, WORST TO DATE. - F MINUS (Wow just horrible bad bad bad bad terribad AI)
less units.. seriously a "generic fighter and bomber", which require Aluminum which is horribly scarce even on huge map with resources set to abundant
2) shallow research tree - seriously, by turn 175 I'm already stroking out future tech ever 4 turns, ditto for policies
3) map builder - ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE.. I just had to restart a game 5 times because I wanted a lot of mountains and deserts... World age set to New. Temp set to Hot. Rainfall set to low. After 20 turns and 3 explorers I saw ONE mountain. Ditto for just about any other type of map I wanted... I'm CONSTANTLY having to restart the game because to map load was just horrible.
4) religion - OMG STAB ME IN THE EYE SOCKET... why is religion so annoying. I get SATURATED by bad AI pumping out scores of religious units.. and then of course his military is weak and no challenge. Religion quickly becomes an abhorrent, tedious chore that is far to management-intensive. WAY WAY WAY to much. Honestly I'd like a check box to completely disable religion all together if it's going to be this bad.
5) cities end up looking like identical cookie cutter cities, save wonders (which are fewer and less than previous 1.0 releases of this series)
6) can no longer build and control roads (MASSIVE HEAD SCRATCHER) No railroads.

LESS LESS LESS.
WATERED DOWN. WATERED DOWN. WATERED DOWN.
HALF ASS. HALF ASS. HALF ASS.

Complete and total let down for hard core strategists and empire builders... This is now a game I'd hardly play if I was stuck in some random airport with a 3-hour layover.

Such a disappointment. I took a risk and went against my "never buy in week 1 before checking the forums" policy and that's my bad. At least I warned my brother and my neighbor in time. They both have Macs anyways and god knows how long it will be before Mac versions is around. (also a no go for me since my laptop is a mac and I travel a lot... so I bought this game for something to do while out of town)

I honestly want to go back and play Civ 5 now.

I guess I'll come back in 1 year and hopefully enough mods are out to make this game into what it should have been at release.


I have been crying since the release about this game and some before as well since I did not like the cartoon style of the game. You my friend have pretty much expressed my feelings on this game as well. I enjoyed reading your post even if it was a negative rant which I like anyway. I never read reviews to hear how great something is. I want to know what the people who leave the 1 star review are saying before I buy something online. I bought this game for 85 dollars because it was basically free from a gift card that I basically got for free for doing nothing. I think MP will save this game for me though.
 
Looking through the threads, I'm seeing quite a bit of hate. Everyone is complaining about this or that.

I think the game is incredible. The graphics are outstanding, the gameplay is awesome. And they have a Terry Pratchett quote.

There is so much about the game that I enjoy, the positive completely and massively dwarfs the bugs and irritations.

Much of it is kickback from the overwhelmingly positive initial reception, since people are over the early euphoria and the superficial immediate sense that there's more to do in Civ V and are starting to overreact to its release day flaws. But the graphic style is horrible and the Pratchett quote not only isn't among his best, it's badly-narrated given Sean Bean's complete inability to do humour. And the gameplay is good in concept but certainly lacks polish.
 
blah blah blah *snip*
this is civ, we play it cuz we love it. but dont get ahead of yourself. its very still possible we got cheated. more you play, more you will realize

No. You weren't "cheated." If you'd paid $60 and the game had crashed your computer, or you'd paid $60 for a boxed version and got it home to find that inside were two white mice and a picture of a smiling Sid Meier, you'd have been "cheated." Like it or not, you paid for a game and you got a game. If you don't like the game, that's entirely up to you, but to suggest you've been cheated is disingenuous nonsense.
 
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