TNESI: The Glorious Mysteries
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Swissempire
Poet Jester
Andalusia checking in
Israelite9191
You should be reading
I must object to your statement Thlayli about the 3 city system, I was the main developer, you really developed the 2 city system. Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
silver 2039
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Confirming Golden Horde. SHouldn't Samarkquand or Bukhara be eco centers. Maybe Samrkqand should be cultural and Bukhara eco or something... But the Silk Road and trade between East and West goes through there.
I'll be gone from Today Sept 30 thill October 1st to Mysore for my birthday. I plan to get royally drunk. Then I will be gone again from Oct 5-Oct 8 to TOK Camp.
Kingdom of Greater Lothringen
Capital:
Ruler: /
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Centralization: Unitary
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Tech Level: Age of Exploration
Army (Training): 20 Thousands (Very Good)
Navy (Training): None
Economy: Growing (+2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Tolerable/Better
Infrastructure: Improving
Education: Educated
Culture: Patriotic
Confidence: Respecting
Projects:
Public Allies:
Nation Background: Hemmed in between France and the HRE, the Duchy of Upper Lothringen - last fragment of Lothair I's Francia Media - was often the battleground of the two, both in war and diplomacy. The French often invaded Lothringen, the Imperials then counter-invaded and the once-prosperous land was ruined, especially during the wars of the 14th century, after which, for the lack of local heirs, the Imperials assumed absolute control here. The Flemish War changed everything; Marc d'Trieves, a local nobleman of French descendance, used the collapse of both France and the HRE to raise a popular rebellion and claim first the entirety of Upper Lothringen, then the lands around it. His son Richard I maintained the alliance with the Norse, whilst Lothringen rebuilt from its past ravages and rose to dominate the trade in the Rhine; however, attempts at military expansion into chaotic Germany failed. As Bavaria begun to dominate Central Germany, the Lotharingians - ever more Francified culturally - increasingly turned to the west, where the Norse Empire was weakening and the French simply called for liberation... and unification.
Confirming Greater Lothringen.
EDIT: Hate to be picky, but shouldn't it be 1501?
Capital:
Ruler: /
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Centralization: Unitary
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Tech Level: Age of Exploration
Army (Training): 20 Thousands (Very Good)
Navy (Training): None
Economy: Growing (+2)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Tolerable/Better
Infrastructure: Improving
Education: Educated
Culture: Patriotic
Confidence: Respecting
Projects:
Public Allies:
Nation Background: Hemmed in between France and the HRE, the Duchy of Upper Lothringen - last fragment of Lothair I's Francia Media - was often the battleground of the two, both in war and diplomacy. The French often invaded Lothringen, the Imperials then counter-invaded and the once-prosperous land was ruined, especially during the wars of the 14th century, after which, for the lack of local heirs, the Imperials assumed absolute control here. The Flemish War changed everything; Marc d'Trieves, a local nobleman of French descendance, used the collapse of both France and the HRE to raise a popular rebellion and claim first the entirety of Upper Lothringen, then the lands around it. His son Richard I maintained the alliance with the Norse, whilst Lothringen rebuilt from its past ravages and rose to dominate the trade in the Rhine; however, attempts at military expansion into chaotic Germany failed. As Bavaria begun to dominate Central Germany, the Lotharingians - ever more Francified culturally - increasingly turned to the west, where the Norse Empire was weakening and the French simply called for liberation... and unification.
Confirming Greater Lothringen.
EDIT: Hate to be picky, but shouldn't it be 1501?
Insane_Panda
Deity
I reclaim Byzantium
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
Confirming my claim on Sweden.
Kingdom of Sweden
Capital: Stockholm
Ruler: /Reno
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Centralization: Unitary With Exceptions
Religion: Roman Catholicism (semi-autonomous)
Tech Level: Age of Exploration
Army (Training): 35 Thousands (Good)
Navy (Training): 25 Ships (Professional)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Better/Better
Economy: Growing (+2)
Infrastructure: Great
Education: Well Educated
Culture: Hyperpatriotic
Confidence: Respecting
Projects:
Public Allies: Lithuania (Vassal)
Nation Background: While the Norse Empire, France and the HRE rose to power elsewhere, Sweden's ascendance was somewhat quieter at first, and generally was away from public attention until it was too late. Having repulsed Norse attacks in the 12th century, Sweden united under a magnate named Sverker; his heirs infiltrated the Baltic Sea commercially, whilst waging wars with Finnish tribes and Canutian Denmark, from which Skane was conquered. Though the 13th century was a time of internecine strife and more Norse attacks, it was also the time when Sweden truly became an empire, with the Baltic Crusades that allowed Sweden to take over large parts of Finland, Estonia and Lettia (Latvia). Having built up a considerable potential, Sweden unleashed it in 1400 under King Valdemar III. Novgorod, for long a vassal state, was formally annexed, and two years later, the long-defiant Lithuanians were defeated at Mazeikiai and forced to become a vassal state themselves. Mongol invaders were fought to a standstill at Gomy and lastly Sweden intervened in the Flemish War on the Norse side, inciting the Hanseatic League to defect and accept Swedish protection. With complete Baltic control, Sweden is probably the most serious threat to Norse power, but it is yet to come to war. As Swedish influence expands into Germany, however, war seems inevitable... Then again, the Swedes have other concerns too - the Prague Confederacy, Galicia, and the Golden Horde are all potential foes. Sweden may have a bumpy road to victory…
Kingdom of Sweden
Capital: Stockholm
Ruler: /Reno
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Centralization: Unitary With Exceptions
Religion: Roman Catholicism (semi-autonomous)
Tech Level: Age of Exploration
Army (Training): 35 Thousands (Good)
Navy (Training): 25 Ships (Professional)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Better/Better
Economy: Growing (+2)
Infrastructure: Great
Education: Well Educated
Culture: Hyperpatriotic
Confidence: Respecting
Projects:
Public Allies: Lithuania (Vassal)
Nation Background: While the Norse Empire, France and the HRE rose to power elsewhere, Sweden's ascendance was somewhat quieter at first, and generally was away from public attention until it was too late. Having repulsed Norse attacks in the 12th century, Sweden united under a magnate named Sverker; his heirs infiltrated the Baltic Sea commercially, whilst waging wars with Finnish tribes and Canutian Denmark, from which Skane was conquered. Though the 13th century was a time of internecine strife and more Norse attacks, it was also the time when Sweden truly became an empire, with the Baltic Crusades that allowed Sweden to take over large parts of Finland, Estonia and Lettia (Latvia). Having built up a considerable potential, Sweden unleashed it in 1400 under King Valdemar III. Novgorod, for long a vassal state, was formally annexed, and two years later, the long-defiant Lithuanians were defeated at Mazeikiai and forced to become a vassal state themselves. Mongol invaders were fought to a standstill at Gomy and lastly Sweden intervened in the Flemish War on the Norse side, inciting the Hanseatic League to defect and accept Swedish protection. With complete Baltic control, Sweden is probably the most serious threat to Norse power, but it is yet to come to war. As Swedish influence expands into Germany, however, war seems inevitable... Then again, the Swedes have other concerns too - the Prague Confederacy, Galicia, and the Golden Horde are all potential foes. Sweden may have a bumpy road to victory…
LittleBoots
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Confirming Leon
Dreadnought
Deity
I'll try Tuscany if I can, if not than Inca.
North King
blech
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Vijayanagaran Empire
Capital: Vijayanagara
Ruler: Krishna Deva Raya/North King
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Centralization: Unitary
Religion: Hindu
Tech Level: Age of Exploration
Army (Training): 15 Thousands (Normal)
Navy (Training): 20 Ships (Better)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Competent/Better
Economy: Normal (+1)
Infrastructure: Good
Education: Educated
Culture: Hyperpatriotic
Confidence: Respecting
Projects:
Public Allies:
Nation Description: Formed to oppose Muslim (first Delhian, later Bahmani) conquest of Deccan, Vijayanagara has become perhaps the first state to unite virtually all of this traditionally balkanized region. A strong, centralized empire of remarkable grandeur, Vijayanagara greatly prospered throughout the 14th and 15th centuries, but militarily, its fortunes were uneven, Goa and the Krishna-Tungabhadra doab becoming perpetually-contested territories between it and the Bahmanis, changing hands time and again. The later 15th century saw a final decisive result, and it was a one that favoured the Bahmanis - they secured all the contested territories, taking advantage of Vijayanagara's increasing decentralization after the rule of emperor Devaraya; all this and the Zanzibari conquest of Malabar crippled Vijayanagara's commerce, and much like Delhi, the formidable empire seems to be on the brink of total collapse; fortunately, the Bahmanis aren't much better off.
Capital: Vijayanagara
Ruler: Krishna Deva Raya/North King
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Centralization: Unitary
Religion: Hindu
Tech Level: Age of Exploration
Army (Training): 15 Thousands (Normal)
Navy (Training): 20 Ships (Better)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Competent/Better
Economy: Normal (+1)
Infrastructure: Good
Education: Educated
Culture: Hyperpatriotic
Confidence: Respecting
Projects:
Public Allies:
Nation Description: Formed to oppose Muslim (first Delhian, later Bahmani) conquest of Deccan, Vijayanagara has become perhaps the first state to unite virtually all of this traditionally balkanized region. A strong, centralized empire of remarkable grandeur, Vijayanagara greatly prospered throughout the 14th and 15th centuries, but militarily, its fortunes were uneven, Goa and the Krishna-Tungabhadra doab becoming perpetually-contested territories between it and the Bahmanis, changing hands time and again. The later 15th century saw a final decisive result, and it was a one that favoured the Bahmanis - they secured all the contested territories, taking advantage of Vijayanagara's increasing decentralization after the rule of emperor Devaraya; all this and the Zanzibari conquest of Malabar crippled Vijayanagara's commerce, and much like Delhi, the formidable empire seems to be on the brink of total collapse; fortunately, the Bahmanis aren't much better off.
Icmancin
WSNR Pte
Azale said:
Then I'll take the Yuan Empire.
Yuan Empire
Capital: Tatu
Ruler: /
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Centralization: Unitary
Religion: Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, Ancestor Worship (none preferred)
Tech Level: Age of Exploration
Army (Training): 80 Thousands (Rabble), 10 Thousands (Professional)
Navy (Training): 25 Ships (Better)
Leadership (Military/Civilian):
Economy: Good Enough (+2)
Infrastructure: Good
Education: Well Educated
Culture: Cultured
Confidence: Respecting
Projects:
Public Allies:
Nation Description: Probably the primary successor state to Genghis Khan's Mongol Empire (by the virtue of controlling Mongolia itself, amongst other things), the Yuan Empire is a curious mix of the Mongol tradition with those of the various conquered peoples, most notably the Chinese; in theory a meritocratic melting pot (obviously, this is rather harder to achieve in practice), the Yuan Empire has combined the Chinese bureaucratic tradition with the Mongolian and Jurchen military one, and is thus very formidable indeed, if not for the continued dissent both amongst the various conquered peoples and amongst the conservative Mongol tribes themselves; this and internicine strife greatly weakened the Yuan, especially in the 14th century. However, back in the 13th one, under Kublai Khan, the Yuan have all but conquered both China and Japan; however, the Song used their technological prowess and natural defenses to greatly slow down the Yuan advance, and bad weather had crippled the Yuan fleet, also, Kublai Khan died inconveniently in battle with the Chinese. Though the Song dynasty soon collapsed anyway, the 14th century Mongol civil wars and stagnation allowed a new Chinese dynasty to rise, the Min, who later nearly reconquered all of China Proper. In the early 15th century, however, the increasingly weak, decadent and "Sinified" Ghenghisids were overthrown by the more brutal and barbaric, and also more vigorous Khasarids, led by Galdhan Khan, who had defeated the Min outside of Tatu, and defeated several rebellions. Though his invasions of China mostly failed, he succeeded elsewhere - he had conquered Japan. Sadly, his heirs too weren't terribly competent, and lost Japan, but the Yuan-Min war now stalemated south of the Huang He, and all the Min attempts to expel the Yuan altogether had failed. It remains to be seen whether this "Three Hundred Years War" would ever come to a decisive conclusion or not.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
Reservations:
North King: Vijayanagara CONFIRMED
ThomAnder: Persia CONFIRMED
Insane_Panda: Byzantine Empire CONFIRMED
LittleBoots: Leon CONFIRMED
shortguy: Greater Lothringen CONFIRMED
Wubba360: Egypt CONFIRMED
The Farow: Bavaria CONFIRMED
Swissempire: Andalusia CONFIRMED
Reno: Sweden CONFIRMED
Silver: Golden Horde CONFIRMED
Israelite: Irish Empire CONFIRMED
Kal'thzar: Norse Empire (potentially) CONFIRMED
Cuivienen: Zanzibar CONFIRMED
Drake: Hungary
Disenfrancised: Genoa (potentially)
Alex: Min China CONFIRMED
Conehead: Provence CONFIRMED
Harlequin: Ayutthaya CONFIRMED
Icmancin: Yuan China CONFIRMED
Azale: Holy Austrian Empire CONFIRMED
Dreadnought: Tuscany (potentially) CONFIRMED
Justokre: Ayutthaya CONFIRMED
Birdjaguar: Sultanate of Delhi CONFIRMED
Oman, hmm. I'll do stats for them later today. Map date fixed.
North King: Vijayanagara CONFIRMED
ThomAnder: Persia CONFIRMED
Insane_Panda: Byzantine Empire CONFIRMED
LittleBoots: Leon CONFIRMED
shortguy: Greater Lothringen CONFIRMED
Wubba360: Egypt CONFIRMED
The Farow: Bavaria CONFIRMED
Swissempire: Andalusia CONFIRMED
Reno: Sweden CONFIRMED
Silver: Golden Horde CONFIRMED
Israelite: Irish Empire CONFIRMED
Kal'thzar: Norse Empire (potentially) CONFIRMED
Cuivienen: Zanzibar CONFIRMED
Drake: Hungary
Disenfrancised: Genoa (potentially)
Alex: Min China CONFIRMED
Conehead: Provence CONFIRMED
Harlequin: Ayutthaya CONFIRMED
Icmancin: Yuan China CONFIRMED
Azale: Holy Austrian Empire CONFIRMED
Dreadnought: Tuscany (potentially) CONFIRMED
Justokre: Ayutthaya CONFIRMED
Birdjaguar: Sultanate of Delhi CONFIRMED
Oman, hmm. I'll do stats for them later today. Map date fixed.
Sultanate of Delhi please.
Sultanate of Delhi
Capital: Delhi
Ruler: /
Government: Absolute Monarchy (in theory, in practice Feudal Monarchy)
Centralization: Loose Federation
Religion: Sunni Muslim (large Hindu majority, small Buddhist minority)
Tech Level: Age of Exploration
Army (Training): 40 Thousands (Tolerable)
Navy (Training): 10 Ships (Semi-Rabble)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Competent/Barely Tolerable
Economy: Normal (+1)
Infrastructure: Improving
Education: Educated
Culture: Patriotic
Confidence: Barely Tolerating
Projects:
Public Allies:
Nation Description: Founded by the Ghurid commander Mu'izz-ud-Din Muhammad ibn Sam, the Sultanate of Delhi - one of the greatest Turkic states thus far - has seen the rule of several dynasties. Its first ascendance was under the slave-sultan Iltutmish; sadly, his successors had failed to defend what he had gained, and instead fought a lengthy, exhausting civil war. Late 13th-early 14th centuries saw the rule of the Khaljis, who had come to control, directly or not, the greater part of the Indian sub-continent; they were followed by Muhammad ibn Tughluq, who lost the southernmost territories to the Bahmanis, but in the north fought back a Mongol invasion and introduced reforms to establish a centralized, benevolent Muslim-dominated monarchy; though his attempts to Islamify India resulted in many rebellions, he achieved partial success with the help of refugees fleeing from the war-torn Middle East. The Tughluqids ruled on into the 15th century, failing to recover Deccan, and eventually losing some other territories, as the empire grew ever more decentralized and stagnant. A brief renaissance was achieved in the middle 15th century under Husayn I Tawfiqi, an usurper general, but in truth, Delhi still only looks strong, despite the best efforts of its rulers, it has again devolved into a feudal confederacy, and the slightest shake of the central authority might cause it to implode.
Sultanate of Delhi
Capital: Delhi
Ruler: /
Government: Absolute Monarchy (in theory, in practice Feudal Monarchy)
Centralization: Loose Federation
Religion: Sunni Muslim (large Hindu majority, small Buddhist minority)
Tech Level: Age of Exploration
Army (Training): 40 Thousands (Tolerable)
Navy (Training): 10 Ships (Semi-Rabble)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Competent/Barely Tolerable
Economy: Normal (+1)
Infrastructure: Improving
Education: Educated
Culture: Patriotic
Confidence: Barely Tolerating
Projects:
Public Allies:
Nation Description: Founded by the Ghurid commander Mu'izz-ud-Din Muhammad ibn Sam, the Sultanate of Delhi - one of the greatest Turkic states thus far - has seen the rule of several dynasties. Its first ascendance was under the slave-sultan Iltutmish; sadly, his successors had failed to defend what he had gained, and instead fought a lengthy, exhausting civil war. Late 13th-early 14th centuries saw the rule of the Khaljis, who had come to control, directly or not, the greater part of the Indian sub-continent; they were followed by Muhammad ibn Tughluq, who lost the southernmost territories to the Bahmanis, but in the north fought back a Mongol invasion and introduced reforms to establish a centralized, benevolent Muslim-dominated monarchy; though his attempts to Islamify India resulted in many rebellions, he achieved partial success with the help of refugees fleeing from the war-torn Middle East. The Tughluqids ruled on into the 15th century, failing to recover Deccan, and eventually losing some other territories, as the empire grew ever more decentralized and stagnant. A brief renaissance was achieved in the middle 15th century under Husayn I Tawfiqi, an usurper general, but in truth, Delhi still only looks strong, despite the best efforts of its rulers, it has again devolved into a feudal confederacy, and the slightest shake of the central authority might cause it to implode.
From: Leopold I of the Holy Austrian Empire
To: Swiss Republic
Times in Europe are confusing, to say the least. I have maps all around me in my study, one for my lands, several for Germany, another for Italy, and another for the New World. There is one thing we can do too make things easier on us both, which is why I extend the offer of a mutual protection pact to your nation. The Swiss are an industrious people of unbreakable will as history has shown, we would rather be on the side of that than against it.
From: Leopold I of the Holy Austrian Empire
To: Kingdom of Lombardy
Let us continue our friendship, by first signing a defensive pact that will ensure your safety from outside aggression. We also offer you a duchess or duke, whichever pleases you, for royal marriage that will forever cement this guarantee.
From: Leopold I of the Holy Austrian Empire
To: The Papal States
To ensure that the power of the Roman Catholic church never wanes, I hearby request for the Pope's public blessing of I, King Leopold I. We also request the status of "defender of the Catholic faith" be bestowed upon the Holy Austrian Empire.
From: Leopold I of the Holy Austrian Empire
To: Kingdom of Tuscany
I have visited your wonderful cities many a time, and would never like to see an era where those places might come under hostile attack. What say you too a mutual protection pact?
From: Leopold I of the Holy Austrian Empire
To: Prague Confederacy
Brothers to the north, we are not much different. We should ally to protect our mutual interests.
From: Leopold I of the Holy Austrian Empire
To: Bavaria
I hear rumors of deteriorating relations between our nations. Whatever the case may be, I have no intention of listening to these rumors. Will you accept a 10-year non-aggression treaty to prove you will not either and quell the voices?
To: Swiss Republic
Times in Europe are confusing, to say the least. I have maps all around me in my study, one for my lands, several for Germany, another for Italy, and another for the New World. There is one thing we can do too make things easier on us both, which is why I extend the offer of a mutual protection pact to your nation. The Swiss are an industrious people of unbreakable will as history has shown, we would rather be on the side of that than against it.
From: Leopold I of the Holy Austrian Empire
To: Kingdom of Lombardy
Let us continue our friendship, by first signing a defensive pact that will ensure your safety from outside aggression. We also offer you a duchess or duke, whichever pleases you, for royal marriage that will forever cement this guarantee.
From: Leopold I of the Holy Austrian Empire
To: The Papal States
To ensure that the power of the Roman Catholic church never wanes, I hearby request for the Pope's public blessing of I, King Leopold I. We also request the status of "defender of the Catholic faith" be bestowed upon the Holy Austrian Empire.
From: Leopold I of the Holy Austrian Empire
To: Kingdom of Tuscany
I have visited your wonderful cities many a time, and would never like to see an era where those places might come under hostile attack. What say you too a mutual protection pact?
From: Leopold I of the Holy Austrian Empire
To: Prague Confederacy
Brothers to the north, we are not much different. We should ally to protect our mutual interests.
From: Leopold I of the Holy Austrian Empire
To: Bavaria
I hear rumors of deteriorating relations between our nations. Whatever the case may be, I have no intention of listening to these rumors. Will you accept a 10-year non-aggression treaty to prove you will not either and quell the voices?
