Here's the group list. Continents grouped from upper left to bottom right
and civs from top to bottom the way they appear in the world builder.
Upper continents :
Group 1 : a) Ragnar ; b) Alexander ; c) Tokugawa
Group 2 : a) Brennus ; b) Huayna Capac ; c) Cyrus
Group 3 : a) Gandhi ; b) Stalin ; c) Elizabeth
Lower continents :
Group 4 : a) Hannibal ; b) Ramesses II ; c) Bismarck
Group 5 : a) Mansa Musa ; b) Genghis Khan ; c) Napoleon
Group 6 : a) Washington ; b ) Augustus Caesar ; c) Mehmed II
Group 1 + 4 ; group 2 + 5 ; group 3 + 6 are at permanent peace.
I agree with moving the settler one West for the Silver to fall within the BFC. As for who starts, I will not be able to pick-up the game until Thursday (%#$@% real life), So depending on the flow of the game I may need to placed further back in the roster. Anyways I agree with the opinion that getting optics sooner will help us slaughter our neighbors (assuming we still have them) and anyone else. As for starting techs I think Fishing then Bronze Working then Iron Works. I think the sooner we rid our continent of the unpure the better (I know, obvious comments, I am just so excited being in my first SG).
I've played this variant about 10 times and most of them were failures.
A very aggressive approach is required. This means we have to prevent
our neighbors developing their lands. We cannot sit and wait until we
have better units. One of the reasons will be playing Mali is their UU.
Post the starting save and i can probably give it a go tonight.
I hear fishing to start. I think worker too so we can go mine that silver for some early commerce?
Ok, Immaculate you start off.
Play your turns, 40 is maximum. After that, only the first round,
everyone will be playing 20 max. Second round, everyone plays 15 turns.
Remember, the barbarians will start to attack around 2400 BC !
Random order :
GreyFox
negyvenketto
Tatran
The Sansman
I am getting a message saying:
"The save file you have selected is protected to ensure that the assets in your mod folder have not been changed."
Then it crashes to desktop.
I opened it by double-clicking on the save which usually loads whatever mod. Is its 'Blake's Better AI mod' i need or is there something else?
I can't check the save at work. I just wondering why is the silver hill is attractive to AI to mark it as a good place for a city. Maybe the warrior can first climb it to look around. The other hill with the 4 food resource is hard to beat, though.
Well, I can't open it up as well. It is likely that you have some mods loaded which you forgot abt. Or it's actually pre-2.0.8? I don't know, just throwing darts here. I thought the problem of locked-assets is a thing of past.
Thanks for the input. I already suspected the problem was on my side.
Maybe, a dumb question, but the assets directory has to be identical
with only the 5 sub-directories (Art, Python, res, Sounds, XML) +
the <CvGameCoreDLL.dll> file and no other files/directories ?
I have taken the liberty of changing the name to TNT1, hope you don't mind.
Spoilerautolog :
Logging by Ruff's Cobbled Mod Pack v2.0.4 (Warlords v2.08) - New Log Entries
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turn 0/660 (4000 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:28:17]
IBT:
Turn 1/660 (3970 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:29:00] Timbuktu founded Timbuktu begins: Warrior (8 turns) Research begun: Fishing (10 Turns)
IBT:
Turn 2/660 (3940 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:29:23]
IBT:
Turn 3/660 (3910 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:29:32]
IBT:
Turn 4/660 (3880 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:29:39]
IBT: Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Napoleon(France), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Mehmed II(Ottomans) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Attitude Change: Napoleon(France) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Turn 5/660 (3850 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:29:51] Tribal village results: a little gold
IBT:
Turn 6/660 (3820 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:30:18]
IBT:
Turn 7/660 (3790 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:30:28]
IBT: Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Napoleon(France), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Turn 9/660 (3730 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:30:47] Timbuktu begins: Barracks (25 turns) Tribal village results: a little gold
IBT: While defending in the wild, Warrior defeats (1.74/2): Barbarian Wolf (Prob Victory: 99.6% Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Bismarck(Germany), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Napoleon(France), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Mehmed II(Ottomans) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
IBT: Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Gandhi(India), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Ramesses II(Egypt), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Bismarck(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Turn 11/660 (3670 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:32:05] Research begun: Bronze Working (24 Turns) Timbuktu begins: Work Boat (15 turns)
IBT: Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Bismarck(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Turn 12/660 (3640 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:32:54]
IBT: Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Gandhi(India), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Ramesses II(Egypt), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased' Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased' Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Turn 13/660 (3610 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:33:07]
IBT:
Turn 14/660 (3580 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:33:20]
IBT: Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Bismarck(Germany), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Napoleon(France), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Napoleon(France) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Civics Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) from 'Tribalism' to 'Slavery'
Turn 15/660 (3550 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:33:34] GreyFox: Augustus adopts slavery
IBT: Buddhism founded in a distant land Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Bismarck(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
IBT: State Religion Change: Gandhi(India) from 'no State Religion' to 'Buddhism' Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Turn 17/660 (3490 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:34:42] GreyFox: Gandhi is the Buddhism founder Timbuktu grows: 2
IBT: While defending in the wild, Warrior defeats (1.70/2): Barbarian Lion (Prob Victory: 96.4%) Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Gandhi(India), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Ramesses II(Egypt), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious' Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Turn 18/660 (3460 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:35:23]
IBT: Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Gandhi(India), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Ramesses II(Egypt), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased' Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
IBT: Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Nice progress Fox. Is our capital defenseless? OK, it's a large map, hopefully our AW neighbours won't find us soon. Good luck with the copper Immaculate. Next tech AH?
Could i swap with someone again? Sorry about this. I am up in another succession game, i have a presentation to give on Thursday that i have to prepare for, and i am going out for supper with friends tonight. I guess you didn't need those details, but its not possible for me to play until friday probably. Looks interesting though. Pottery from a hut is great.
I do think we should get more then two warrior before we build a settler though on always war settings.
I think I will be able to play 4-6 hours from this post (if nobody else wants it desperately). I will post a got-it before I play. I agree with Fox's suggestions, other comments are welcome.
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