TNT1 : Monarch, custom continents, PP or PW

Here's the group list. Continents grouped from upper left to bottom right
and civs from top to bottom the way they appear in the world builder.

Upper continents :
Group 1 : a) Ragnar ; b) Alexander ; c) Tokugawa
Group 2 : a) Brennus ; b) Huayna Capac ; c) Cyrus
Group 3 : a) Gandhi ; b) Stalin ; c) Elizabeth

Lower continents :
Group 4 : a) Hannibal ; b) Ramesses II ; c) Bismarck
Group 5 : a) Mansa Musa ; b) Genghis Khan ; c) Napoleon
Group 6 : a) Washington ; b ) Augustus Caesar ; c) Mehmed II

Group 1 + 4 ; group 2 + 5 ; group 3 + 6 are at permanent peace.

Our starting position :

tnt1startou8.jpg
 
I prefer to settle on the plains hill, 1 tile to the left, so the silver resource
is in the city radius too. And the extra hammer of course.

Random roster :
Immaculate
GreyFox
negyvenketto
Tatran
The Sansman

Who starts off ?
 
I agree with moving the settler one West for the Silver to fall within the BFC. As for who starts, I will not be able to pick-up the game until Thursday :cry: (%#$@% real life), So depending on the flow of the game I may need to placed further back in the roster. Anyways I agree with the opinion that getting optics sooner will help us slaughter our neighbors (assuming we still have them:mischief:) and anyone else. As for starting techs I think Fishing then Bronze Working then Iron Works. I think the sooner we rid our continent of the unpure the better (I know, obvious comments, I am just so excited being in my first SG:D:D:D).
 
I've played this variant about 10 times and most of them were failures.
A very aggressive approach is required. This means we have to prevent
our neighbors developing their lands. We cannot sit and wait until we
have better units. One of the reasons will be playing Mali is their UU.
 
Post the starting save and i can probably give it a go tonight.
I hear fishing to start. I think worker too so we can go mine that silver for some early commerce?
 
Ok, Immaculate you start off.
Play your turns, 40 is maximum. After that, only the first round,
everyone will be playing 20 max. Second round, everyone plays 15 turns.
Remember, the barbarians will start to attack around 2400 BC !

Random order :
GreyFox
negyvenketto
Tatran
The Sansman
 
Got it. Playing tonight.
 
I am getting a message saying:
"The save file you have selected is protected to ensure that the assets in your mod folder have not been changed."
Then it crashes to desktop.
I opened it by double-clicking on the save which usually loads whatever mod. Is its 'Blake's Better AI mod' i need or is there something else?

Sorry.
 
Sorry Immaculate. I'm not running any mods.
I had no problems loading the first save.
Try this save : wrong save :wallbash:
 
I tried that too.
I am sorry.
Please skip me.
I'll try to figure it out. the next person can tell me how the save worked for them
 
I can't check the save at work. I just wondering why is the silver hill is attractive to AI to mark it as a good place for a city. Maybe the warrior can first climb it to look around. The other hill with the 4 food resource is hard to beat, though.
 
Thanks for the input. I already suspected the problem was on my side.
Maybe, a dumb question, but the assets directory has to be identical
with only the 5 sub-directories (Art, Python, res, Sounds, XML) +
the <CvGameCoreDLL.dll> file and no other files/directories ?

If so, maybe this save will work :
 
No, you go ahead. Tuesdays are my language class.


Kafa Halaq?
 
Not sure how many turns to play, so I took the conservative 20 turns. With my luck, I think 20 turns is fun enough ;)

Founded Timbuktu 1W on the hills as agreed:

tnt1-BC3970-timbutku.jpg


And headed for fishing. Since we do not have fishing, can't work on the pond yet. Got us one more warrior.

Fishing is in at 3670BC:

tnt1-BC3670-fishing.jpg


... heading for BW next. Meanwhile suspended the construction of barracks to start a workboat.

Now, the interesting part:

1st hut pop:

tnt1-BC3850-hut-gold.jpg


32gold, not too shabby, but I am sure I can do better.

2nd hut pop:

tnt1-BC3730-hut-gold.jpg


43 gold. Ok, my luck is definitely improving ...

3rd hut pop:

tnt1-BC3430-hut-tech.jpg


:woohoo:

Objective accomplished.

:D

The map revealed in 20 turns:

tnt1-BC3400-map.jpg


Suggest building another workboat to hasten growth, and then go for worker then settler once copper is revealed.

>>> The Save (3400BC) <<<

I have taken the liberty of changing the name to TNT1, hope you don't mind.

Spoiler autolog :

Logging by Ruff's Cobbled Mod Pack v2.0.4 (Warlords v2.08) - New Log Entries
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Turn 0/660 (4000 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:28:17]

IBT:

Turn 1/660 (3970 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:29:00]
Timbuktu founded
Timbuktu begins: Warrior (8 turns)
Research begun: Fishing (10 Turns)

IBT:

Turn 2/660 (3940 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:29:23]

IBT:

Turn 3/660 (3910 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:29:32]

IBT:

Turn 4/660 (3880 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:29:39]

IBT:
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Napoleon(France), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Mehmed II(Ottomans) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Napoleon(France) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 5/660 (3850 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:29:51]
Tribal village results: a little gold

IBT:

Turn 6/660 (3820 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:30:18]

IBT:

Turn 7/660 (3790 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:30:28]

IBT:
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Napoleon(France), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 8/660 (3760 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:30:35]
Timbuktu's borders expand
Timbuktu finishes: Warrior

IBT:

Turn 9/660 (3730 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:30:47]
Timbuktu begins: Barracks (25 turns)
Tribal village results: a little gold

IBT:
While defending in the wild, Warrior defeats (1.74/2): Barbarian Wolf (Prob Victory: 99.6&#37;)
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Bismarck(Germany), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Napoleon(France), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Mehmed II(Ottomans) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 10/660 (3700 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:31:44]
Tech learned: Fishing

IBT:
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Gandhi(India), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Ramesses II(Egypt), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Bismarck(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 11/660 (3670 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:32:05]
Research begun: Bronze Working (24 Turns)
Timbuktu begins: Work Boat (15 turns)

IBT:
Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Bismarck(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 12/660 (3640 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:32:54]

IBT:
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Gandhi(India), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Ramesses II(Egypt), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 13/660 (3610 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:33:07]

IBT:

Turn 14/660 (3580 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:33:20]

IBT:
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Bismarck(Germany), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Napoleon(France), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Napoleon(France) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Civics Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) from 'Tribalism' to 'Slavery'

Turn 15/660 (3550 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:33:34]
GreyFox: Augustus adopts slavery

IBT:
Buddhism founded in a distant land
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Bismarck(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 16/660 (3520 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:34:10]
GreyFox: Buddhism FIADL

IBT:
State Religion Change: Gandhi(India) from 'no State Religion' to 'Buddhism'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'

Turn 17/660 (3490 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:34:42]
GreyFox: Gandhi is the Buddhism founder
Timbuktu grows: 2

IBT:
While defending in the wild, Warrior defeats (1.70/2): Barbarian Lion (Prob Victory: 96.4%)
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Gandhi(India), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Ramesses II(Egypt), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Mansa Musa(Mali), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 18/660 (3460 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:35:23]

IBT:
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Genghis Khan(Mongolia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Gandhi(India), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Ragnar(Vikings) towards Ramesses II(Egypt), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 19/660 (3430 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:35:39]
Tech learned: Pottery
Tribal village results: technology

IBT:
Attitude Change: Genghis Khan(Mongolia) towards Mehmed II(Ottomans), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Ragnar(Vikings), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 20/660 (3400 BC) [31-Jan-2007 18:36:33]
 
Nice progress Fox. Is our capital defenseless? OK, it's a large map, hopefully our AW neighbours won't find us soon. Good luck with the copper Immaculate. Next tech AH?
 
Could i swap with someone again? Sorry about this. I am up in another succession game, i have a presentation to give on Thursday that i have to prepare for, and i am going out for supper with friends tonight. I guess you didn't need those details, but its not possible for me to play until friday probably. Looks interesting though. Pottery from a hut is great.
I do think we should get more then two warrior before we build a settler though on always war settings.
 
I think I will be able to play 4-6 hours from this post (if nobody else wants it desperately). I will post a got-it before I play. I agree with Fox's suggestions, other comments are welcome.
 
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