To Athiests, and Agonostics

[bgast1]

I have a question for you. If someone could provide reasonable answers to the most significant objections that you have about Christianity--reasonable to the point that Christianity seems true beyond a reasonable doubt--would you then become a Christian?

You don't need to give a reason why, you just need to answer a simple yes or no.

 

[Fifty]

nope (because even with my most significant objections out of the way there are many many minor objections left over that would still add up to no religion)

 

[mrtn]

If someone could prove that there's this great beard in the sky who is responsible I'd be bloody furious at the beard in question, but I wouldn't start believeing or worshipping.

 

[Sahkuhnder]

Yes. I always reserve the right to change my mind if/when better evidence becomes available.

"True beyond a reasonable doubt" would be very difficult with a topic such as religion which requires faith over facts.

 

[Tenochtitlan]

No, beyond reasonable doubt is not enough. I need tangible proof. There is absolutely no proof that the bible is the word of God.

 

[Fifty]

No, beyond reasonable doubt is not enough. I need tangible proof. There is absolutely no proof that the bible is the word of God.

There's little or no tangible proof of pretty much anything. In fact I can't think of a single thing that has been PROVED to exist.

 

[sysyphus]

I have a question for you. If someone could provide reasonable answers to the most significant objections that you have about Christianity--reasonable to the point that Christianity seems true beyond a reasonable doubt--would you then become a Christian?

You don't need to give a reason why, you just need to answer a simple yes or no.

I am an agnostic. If anyone can provide me with compelling evidence to the truth of any religion then of course I will believe.

This has not in any way been provided so far.

 

[Tenochtitlan]

We can SEE the stars. We can feel the heat and the cold. We can know what time the sun rises and what time it sets. We can accurately predict eclipses because of proven mathematical and physical equations.

 

[Tenochtitlan]

I am an agnostic. If anyone can provide me with compelling evidence to the truth of any religion then of course I will believe.

This has not in any way been provided so far.

That's why it's called belief, not knowledge.

 

[sysyphus]

There's little or no tangible proof of pretty much anything. In fact I can't think of a single thing that has been PROVED to exist.

That's why I only expect compelling evidence. As one with a scientific mind I am aware that all knwon and generally accepted laws of science are based on compelling evidence, not proof, that's why I believe them.

 

[I am the Future]

Nope, I dont see any way of knowing wether or not there is a devine being. So even if somone found almost perfect reasoning and near proof of such a being I would have to call them crazy.

Besides if proof existed then the entire existence of God is comprimised, I believe the term "Babel Fish" comes to mind.

 

[newfangle]

Of course not. I refuse to worship anything (except mathematics) no matter how powerful he/she/it is.

If God exists, I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a damn about a simple choice I've made. If he does care, he's obviously a douche with nothing better to do.

 

[Fifty]

We can SEE the stars. We can feel the heat and the cold.

How do you know your senses aren't faulty and that your faculty of reason is capable of accurately assessing your sensory input and determining what it is?

We can know what time the sun rises and what time it sets. We can accurately predict eclipses because of proven mathematical and physical equations.

How do you know with any probability above 50/50 that those predictions will be accurate at any given time you use them?

 

[newfangle]

Hey Fifty, when you say we can't prove the existence of anything, what constitutes proof?

What I'm saying is that deductive syllogisms rely on a base of axiomatics, so as you soon as you want to talk about proof, you have to start somewhere.

For instance, you could just say "well, I can't prove it, but let's assume existence exists" and then move on from there.

 

[sysyphus]

How do you know your senses aren't faulty and that your faculty of reason is capable of accurately assessing your sensory input and determining what it is?

Precisely. Nobody sees stars. They see little white dots, and a few people have used analytical tools have gathered evidence that these things are giant balls of firey gas. All we have is evidence given to us my interpretation of the physical by our instruments and senses. Prooves nothing. It DOES provide compelling evidence, hence why I believe that they are indeed stars.

 

[sysyphus]

Hey Fifty, when you say we can't prove the existence of anything, what constitutes proof?

I would say 100% certainty constitutes proof. But, as Fifty and I have both eluded to, reaching 100% it is impossible since our senses and instruments, through which we derive scientific theory is less than perfect.

 

[King Alexander]

I have a question for you. If someone could provide reasonable answers to the most significant objections that you have about Christianity--reasonable to the point that Christianity seems true beyond a reasonable doubt--would you then become a Christian?

You don't need to give a reason why, you just need to answer a simple yes or no.

Allow me to rephrase your questions---
Let's just begin from the start again, as I see people's responses are not satisfied and I cannot know their deeper character: let's say, that someone showed you a way to see God or a way to communicate with Him, a way that other people could CONFIRM that communication(and not just having a wild imagination and tell stories you cannot prove). Would you become a Christian and a follower, would you believe the scripts-bible, and so on...

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[shortguy]

I think I would, though "beyond a reasonable doubt" may be quite a stiff test for me. My main objections are not historical but theological. I don't believe the Christian story is true, but I perhaps would have stayed in the faith anyway if some dictrines didn't make me uncomfortable.

 

[CaptainF]

I have a question for you. If someone could provide reasonable answers to the most significant objections that you have about Christianity--reasonable to the point that Christianity seems true beyond a reasonable doubt--would you then become a Christian?

You don't need to give a reason why, you just need to answer a simple yes or no.

Why just become a christian? Why not some other religion?

Anyway, if god were proved to exist, I might be surprised, but I wouldn't start kissing my rosaries just yet. I would ask him a lot of questions. If he doesn't satisfy my answers...well god, you created me but I don't have to obey you, right?

 

[bgast1]

Here's the best anyone can get. True beyond reasonable doubt. Absolute proof is impossible as Fifty said. At some point a certain amount of faith has to enter the picture. I submit that even takes faith to maintain a position of atheism or agnosticism. Some faith is required to overcome the possibility that they are wrong.