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[Flash in the Pan]

The Long Life of a Fleeting Flintlock Failure

AMONG THE HEADACHES facing Facebook—or Meta, as the social-media giant’s parent company is now known—is an affidavit by an anonymous whistleblower recently submitted to the Securities and Exchange Commission. According to the Washington Post, the whistleblower recounts a statement by Facebook communications official Tucker Bounds in 2017, when the company was facing harsh scrutiny over accusations regarding Russian interference in the previous year’s elections.

“It will be a flash in the pan,” Mr. Bounds reportedly said. “Some legislators will get pissy. And then in a few weeks they will move onto something else. Meanwhile we are printing money in the basement, and we are fine.” That purported prediction turned out to be wildly off the mark, as damaging revelations have continued to rock Facebook. The post-election controversy was no “flash in the pan”—an expression typically used for something that briefly catches people’s attention but has no long-term effects.

Like many idioms, “flash in the pan” has lingered long after the source of its literal meaning has faded from memory. Modern- day English speakers might guess that the common phrase has something to do with cooking food speedily in a stovetop pan. (Several cookbooks for stir-fries and the like use “flash in the pan” in their titles.)

Or you might think the expression has to do with prospectors sifting gravel in pans, hoping to find tiny pieces of gold. One latter-day gold prospector in Oklahoma recently told a local public radio station, “I got my first flash in the pan, seen a piece of gold and I was hooked.”

But “flash in the pan” predates the Gold Rush of the mid-19th century by almost 200 years. The phrase was originally related to the workings of muskets and other guns with flintlock mechanisms. The “pan” in such a firearm is the hollow part of the lock, which is primed with a small amount of gunpowder. After the powder ignites in the pan, the “flash” passes through a hole in the barrel leading to a combustion chamber that sets off the main powder charge. Sometimes the process fails, and there is merely a “flash in the pan” without the gun discharging.

A search for the phrase on the historical database Early English Books Online finds a flurry of examples starting in 1674, sometimes with “flash” used as a verb. A satirical pamphlet from that year called “The Women’s Petition Against Coffee” complained that men were too jittery from the then-new caffeinated drink to satisfy their wives: “Their ammunition is wanting; peradventure they present, but cannot give fire, or at least do but flash in the pan, instead of doing execution.”

Later that same year came “The Men’s Answer to the Women’s Petition Against Coffee,” which claimed that consuming coffee in fact warded off male impotence “by drying up those crude flatulent humours, which otherwise would make us only flash in the pan.”


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Meanwhile, in the American colonies, a Boston preacher named Joshua Moodey delivered a sermon that used “flash in the pan” in a more serious fashion, as part of an extended military metaphor on the “spiritual war” of “Christian soldiers.” “Sin and Satan will not be scared and frighted away,” Moodey warned, “nor made to fly with a mere flash in the pan.”

That figurative usage, with “flash” as a noun, caught on to refer to a sudden effort that lacks staying power, failing to deliver on a showy start. Even as gunpowder warfare has been forgotten, the metaphor has proved remarkably sturdy, maintaining the core meaning that emerged three and a half centuries ago. “Flash in the pan,” it’s safe to say, is no flash in the pan.

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Til that anti-scammer hacking is in fashion.


"I am russian hacker, you are no longer in control of this conversation"
"This is Vladimir, #1 russian hacker"
:lol:

I didn't know of this counter-scammer streaming fad. It is great :)

@red_elk @Gelion

It seems that most of the scams are the same boring scheme (using Amazon refund in two variations), and virtually every scammer is in East India.
 
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two alternative explanations for the Trojan Horse

1) An earthquake destroyed Troy's defensive walls, the victorious Greeks built the horse to honor Poseidon, the deity associated with quakes and horses - maybe the rumbling of cavalry is the link

2) the horse was a siege weapon similar to Mesopotamian siege weapons
 
them Greece Greeks were smarter than Anatolian Greeks as proven they fell for the trick , because the Trojan War didn't end in the way reported ?
 
Adam Abdul-Jabbar, Kareem's son, was sentenced to 6 months for nearly stabbing a man to death during a dispute over garbage cans. He could serve his sentence with home confinement.
 
two alternative explanations for the Trojan Horse

1) An earthquake destroyed Troy's defensive walls, the victorious Greeks built the horse to honor Poseidon, the deity associated with quakes and horses - maybe the rumbling of cavalry is the link

2) the horse was a siege weapon similar to Mesopotamian siege weapons
Were they usually hollow?
 
A siege tower is usually hollow yes, rolled up to the wall, soldiers climb up inside protected from projectiles and deploy some mechanic to reach the defenders.

Presumably they mean something like this, with some imagination you could see a 'horse' there...

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Okay, so that makes me wonder about the Trojan Horse.

If it was meant to be a siege engine, why would the Greeks all hide inside it? How would they make it knock the walls down? Unlike the ones used in the Midgard scenario in the Civ II: Test of Time game, real ones don't run on magic.
 
That is a subject of much debate among actual historians :)

Personally I think the Trojan Horse was not as much a device to get into the city but to get into the citadel of the city, that is the last fortified place where the defenders withdraw to once the outer walls have fallen.

These places are usually constructed in such a manner siege engines cannot get at them, protected by natural terrain or built in simply inaccessible locations.

Naturally they could not hold the entire population of a city, but they could certainly be defended by a small group of 'heroes' pretty much indefinitely, if well supplied with food and a source of water.

Happened all the time in fact.

Edit, in such case military doctrine suggests, you either sap, starve, use subterfuge, or shoot the defenders into submission - seems the Greeks resorted to a ruse de guerre [feigned retreat] in this case, that is not at all that improbable either.

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If it was meant to be a siege engine, why would the Greeks all hide inside it ?

If I'm correct - only a few need to be inside - once in, they open a 'gate' somewhere and some more rush in to kill the defenders by surprise.
 
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IIRC there is a theory the whole "horse" thing refers to a ship, ships with their prow carved into the shape of a horse being referred to as horses.
 
One ship left behind with some troops hiding inside then ?

But a ship would certainly be a threat to the defenders, the entire concept of a 'Trojan Horse' is to have something appear harmless while the true danger hides inside - the ancients are not very likely to have that entirely wrong are they ?
 
One ship left behind with some troops hiding inside then ?

But a ship would certainly be a threat to the defenders, the entire concept of a 'Trojan Horse' is to have something appear harmless while the true danger hides inside - the ancients are not very likely to have that entirely wrong are they ?
It is not so much that the ancients would get it wrong, but the point of the story could have been distorted between the actual event, however many hundred years of oral history, and then our modern interpretation of a bronze age document.
 
@Snowgerry Again IIRC. Something along the lines of - the dramatic accounts were based on historical accounts where there was only a brief mention of the horse.

I mean it could make some kind of sense. On departure they would certainly need fewer ships. Really difficult to address the practicalities when we dont know how Troy harboured it's ships. They must have had some way of doing so, given the economics of the period. Hastings has some surprisingly large beach launched fishing boats. Now they are dragged with cables and vehicles, but in living memory ships at least as big as those the Greeks had were moved by elbow grease.

The Taliban were more than happy to take the gear the US left behind.

It is not beyond possibilities that Troy could keep it's beach launched ships within it's walls, or at least be capable of doing so in times of peril. Everyone buggers off. Trojans come out to check what's what and to see if there was anything to take. They find a few cool souvenirs and a couple of abandoned boats, drag them to safety and plan to party hard.

I'm not saying this is the case but it makes a lot more sense than a bloody sculpture. Also one of the simplest forms of taxation of merchants was that they gave a % of their cargo to trade in a city. A hidden compartment would be a way of avoiding such taxation, and what the Greeks don't know about dodging taxes isn't worth knowing.
 
I'm not saying this is the case but it makes a lot more sense than a bloody sculpture. Also one of the simplest forms of taxation of merchants was that they gave a % of their cargo to trade in a city. A hidden compartment would be a way of avoiding such taxation, and what the Greeks don't know about dodging taxes isn't worth knowing.
Odysseus Solo: Yeah, I use them for smuggling. I'd never thought I'd be smuggling myself in them.
 
Odysseus Solo: Yeah, I use them for smuggling. I'd never thought I'd be smuggling myself in them.

Yeah, lucky Odysseus had the gift of the gab explaining his plan "So, Your Majesty, you know the smuggling compartments we all have? Well..."
 
@Snowgerry Again IIRC. Something along the lines of - the dramatic accounts were based on historical accounts where there was only a brief mention of the horse.

I mean it could make some kind of sense. On departure they would certainly need fewer ships. Really difficult to address the practicalities when we dont know how Troy harboured it's ships. They must have had some way of doing so, given the economics of the period. Hastings has some surprisingly large beach launched fishing boats. Now they are dragged with cables and vehicles, but in living memory ships at least as big as those the Greeks had were moved by elbow grease.

The Taliban were more than happy to take the gear the US left behind.

It is not beyond possibilities that Troy could keep it's beach launched ships within it's walls, or at least be capable of doing so in times of peril. Everyone buggers off. Trojans come out to check what's what and to see if there was anything to take. They find a few cool souvenirs and a couple of abandoned boats, drag them to safety and plan to party hard.

I'm not saying this is the case but it makes a lot more sense than a bloody sculpture. Also one of the simplest forms of taxation of merchants was that they gave a % of their cargo to trade in a city. A hidden compartment would be a way of avoiding such taxation, and what the Greeks don't know about dodging taxes isn't worth knowing.

Poseidon, after all, was god of both the sea and horses :p

Stealth attacks to take over the city gate and open it for your forces are nothing strange. It's also how Constantinople was retaken in 1261.
Not everyone is Peloponnesian war Thebes, to be the owners of a flame-throwing machine.
 
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