Tupac05 - A Classic Replayed

Pre-turn:
Everything looks good.
Move some troops in the Open Spots for the India Settler Pair So he can’t retreat to them.

IBT:
France Building Bach’s

Turn 1 (710AD):
Munich Library -> Courthouse
India Move or Declare! We are at WAR!
eSword Kill Spear and Capture the setter (1-0)

IBT:
Aztec and Russia Building Bach’s

Turn 2 (720AD):
Salzburg Library -> Market
Nuremberg Aqua -> Granary
Hamburg Harbor -> Library
Establish Brunswick By the Russian Dyes

IBT:
WE Attacked Portsmith Loose our Pike (1-1)

Turn 3 (730AD):
Hamburg Granary -> Spear Prebuild for Musket Should have the Second Salt hook up before its completed
Bremen Market -> Granary
eSword Kill red WE (2-1)

IBT:

Turn 4 (740AD):
Outside Portsmith
eSword Kills Red WE (3-1)
vknight Dies vs red WE (3-2) :mad:
Sword Kill Red WE (4-2)
Sword Kills Yellow WE and Promotes (5-2)
Change Berlin from wealth to a Horse

IBT: Aztec Dials up for WM exchange. Unfortunately Nothing can be gained Only Offers WM for our Dyes and ask for everything for Theology. :rolleyes:
Japan and Persian Start Bach’s

Turn 5 (750AD):
MT Jumps from 20 Turns to 15
Knoinsberg Temple -> Musket

IBT:

Turn 6 (760AD):
MT Down to 9 Turns
Boost Sci up 60% in 6 Turns at -17gpt
Change Berlin to Musket with MT so Close
Frankfurt Granary-> Musket
Burdi Harbor -> Aqua
eSword Kill Red WE (6-2) Get A leader Formed an Army :goodjob:
eSword kills Red WE (7-2)
eSword Kills Red WE (8-2) Get a Leader again form 3rd Army :woohoo:
I didn’t see anything worthy or Rushing with a leader. Also I not sure what to fill either Army with Yet I might leave that to the next player after further discussion.

IBT:
Palace expands
Japan wants to trade TM Again Won’t Trade Theology and asked for everything for Republic. :rolleyes:
Loose one of our eSword to WE in the Open (8-3)
Japan moves several troops close to ours towns.

Turn 7 (770AD):
Get Pentagon Message
Nuremberg Granary -> Library
2 vSwords Kill 2 Red WE (10-3) One promotes
eKnight kills red WE (11-3)
Sword Kills Red Spear (12-3) Promotes
Sword Kills Red LB (13-3) Out in the Open with WE Next to him.
Knight Army Kill Red LB (14-3) Next to Karachi Defended by a Spear

IBT:
WE kills Open Sword (14-4)

Turn 8 (780AD):
Sci Down to 50% still in 4 turns at -4GPT
Knight Army Goes looses 2hp On Spears Raze Karachi
Sword Kills Red Spear (15-4) Promotes
LB Kills Red LB (16-4)

IBT:

Turn 9 (790AD):
We have DISCOVERED a new Source of IRON (outside Bremen) :D
Raise Sci to 80% MT in 2 Turns Change Hamburg, Berlin, Knoisberg to Prebuild for Cavs (all Courthouses) -58 GPT currently at 183gp
Dortmund Harbor -> Library
Portsmith Market -> Library
eSword Kills Red WE (17-4)
eSword Kill Red Sword (18-4)

IBT:
Retreat WE on Defense

Turn 10 (800AD):
Lower Sci to 70% still in 1 -42GPT
eKnight Kill Red WE (19-4)

Japan Seems to be Moving Troops Towards Brunswick and Rigi Could be going for Russia.
There are lots of Troops left unmoved for the next player. I did not see any visible enemies on the India Border.

View attachment 138965
 
Good stuff JJJ! Looks like a good set of turns, I knew India wouldnt put up with being told to leave for long. Good kill rate too, I'd look to fill the empty army with cavs, and if we can get a force of 10+cavs to go with a cav army we could look to try and get the Great Library (India does have it doesnt it?).
Next leader should rush the pentagon. India isnt that strong I think so I'm confident that we can make gains against them, getting the Great Library would be good but we should aim to do it before India gets into the IA (we don't want to be facing rifles with cavs unless we have plenty of cannon support). Once MT comes in maybe we could switch off research so we have the cash to upgrade knights and cats to cavs and cannons. I'm all in favour of going for the Great Library.
 
Just had a look at the save and things are better than I thought. Munich will finish the courthouse in the interturn so when MT comes in make sure you scroll ahead to change it to cavalry. I'm more convinced however that if we plan on going for the GLB that we need to move as soon as we have enough cavs. A Cav army would be doubly useful for the defence it will provide. Looking at the way its all laid out, when we have enough troops for the job, I would suggest going past Bactra, ignore Hyderbad to go straight for Delhi. Take and hold Delhi for a turn, get the techs from the GL, then either burn Hyderbad with reinforcements as they arrive or send some troops from the main force to burn Hyderbad.
 
0) 800AD : looks good, hit enter

IBT : Russia dials up and wants our world map and 5 gold for her world map, I show her the door
military tradition comes in -> theology
Munich : courthouse -> cav
Nuremberg : lib -> cav
Bremen : garnary -> lib
New Leipzig : market -> lib
France starts Newton's

1) 810AD : just worker actions

IBT : Berlin : cav -> cav
Leipzig : aqueduct -> cav
Konigsberg : cav -> cav
Heidelburg : market -> duct
France starts Smith's

2) 820AD : esword dies on a reg WE
eknight kills the WE

IBT : Hamburg : cav -> cav
Portsmith : lib -> cav
America and Persia start Newton's

3) 830AD : not much to do

IBT : nothing

4) 840AD : not much

IBT : first Indian cav comes into view
Frankfurt : cav -> cav
Russia starts Smith's

5) 850AD : knight army kills spear in Punjab
sword kills Indian spear at Portsmith and promotes elite

IBT : New Konigsburg : granary -> courthouse
Bremen : lib -> duct
New Leipzig : lib -> cav
McHamburger : worker -> cannon
America starts Smith's

6) 860AD : esword kills Indian cav at Portsmith
eknight kills Indian cav at Portsmith
knight army kills another spear at Punjab and the city is ours

IBT : Stuttgart : market -> rax

7) 870AD : esword kills Indian spear at Portsmith

IBT : India dials up. No need for peace. We could not get much, so continue the war
theology comes in -> education
Berlin : cav -> cav
Munich : cav -> cav
Nuremberg : cav -> cav
Russia starts Newton's

8) 880AD : nothing much

IBT : Persia offers TM for TM and I decline
France wants our TM + 4 gold for their TM, no thanks
Konigsberg : cav -> cav
Dortmund : lib -> duct
New Hamburg : lib -> musket

9) 890AD : nothing

IBT : renew the deal with Lincoln : silks for iron and salpeter, but we get 15gpt from him additionally :)
France declares war on us and takes Punjab
Riga flips to Russia
Busker : harbor -> cannon

10) 900AD : retake Punjab
 
I have forgotten to attach the save.:blush: I will send it in the evening after I got home from work. Sorry guys.

:eek: Education is not set to 0. The next player has to do it. I totally forgot about the GL slingshot.:blush: I must have been asleep while playing.
 
Pre-turn

Yikes we are only 3 turns from Education. I turn research off and income goes to +150gpt. Will look to get the GLB this turnset.
Uh huh, didn't notice that we were at war with France when I read your report. Things are not as good as I thought. Why did we go for Punjab? Its a craphole, useless spot far from our lands which does not help us in the slightest with regards to getting the GLB. I honestly wasn't expecting us to be at war EVERY time the game comes round to me...

IBT - a french cav captures Punjab, stuff it, they can have it. Still can't understand what our troops were doing there anyway... baffling. Lose a pike and retreat a knight at Salzburg (0-1)

Turn 1 - Kill 3 French knights (3-1), get our knight army away from Punjab, send a big stack of cats and swords toward Salzburg (Markh, why do we have no catapults on our northern border, you had a whole turn of war with France when you could have done that... France is far stronger than India, we need cats up there waaaay more than on our western border). We need more cash for cannon upgrades. Have to just wait and see how things go.

IBT - lose a sword to a french cav (3-2), a lot of ruskies come into our territory. This could be vbad.

Turn 2 - Kill 2 french knights and cav (6-2) upgrade a pike and 17 cats, switch salzburg to musket due next turn. Send our 2 cav armies and a few cavs toward the Great Library, should arrive sometime near the end of my turnset.

IBT - Lose a longbow, kill a knight in return (7-3). 10 Russian knights and 4 longbows move into the vicinity of Konigsberg. I have no idea what I'm goign to do...

Turn 3 - Well actually I have no choice, they are within striking range, I have to order them to leave. The Russian declare war.
Do what I can... this WILL be ugly. I use the cannons (used to be cats) on our iron mountain to knock 1hp off any knight that could strike konigsberg in the interturn. Kill a french knight (8-3). This is going to be a nasty, nasty interturn.

IBT - We lose a sword and a warrior to french cavs (8-5) but no cities. As expected the cannon fire prevented russian attacks, but I doubt we have sufficient cannons to do the same next turn... India drops off a WE by Burdi.

Turn 4 - Use the cannons to knock a hp off all but 2 knights at konigbserg then kill 3 knights there for no loss (11-5). Kill 3 French cavs as well (14-5). Kill the WE (15-5).

IBT - Lose a musketman at Salzburg, kill a cavalry, (16-6) Cossacks have joined the party at Konigsberg.

Turn 5 - Kill 3 LB's, a WE and a knight (21-6).

IBT - Lose a cav to an indian cav (21-7), France persuades Persia to declare war then kill a french cav on the defence (22-7).

Turn 6 - Kill a longbow (23-7), then kill 2 spears and capture Madras (Wealth). (25-7), this gives us control of the roads so we can reach Delhi a turn earlier. Kill a Russian knight, and 2 French Musketeers (28-7) and pop a leader. Immediately Rush the Pentagon in Munich. Kill 3 more musketeers and a cav gettin 2 promotions (33-7).

IBT - Kill a russian longbow, lose a sword (34-8). Munich completes the Pentagon.

Turn 7 - Go straight for Delhi. 3 wins and hold, hopefully with the army for cover we wont get attacked in the interturn... (37-8), kill 2 french muskets and generate another leader but lose a cav as well (39-9). Make an army and put 2 elite* cavs in it. Abandon Madras.

IBT - lose a sword and a warrior (39-10).

Turn 8 - Kill a last musket and a conscript rifle at Delhi and we capture Dlehi and the Great Library put a 10/12 cav army in there to hopefully cover it for one turn. (41-10) Kill 2 cavalry and 2 musketeers (45-10).
Sit back and hope for the best

IBT - Lose a sword to an indian cav (45-11), no other losses... but France comes asking for peace but insists on us paying 200gp. Our rules say we mustn't pay for peace, so no dice. I wonder how long it will be until we get another opportunity for that though...
and the Great Library kicks in!

We get the following techs: The Republic, Printing Press, Education, Banking, Economics, Astronomy, Navigation, Physics, Magnetism, Theory of Gravity, Nationalism, Medicine and Steam Power.

Turn 9 - We have 2 sources of coal. So I immediately start work on a railnet. 3 workers to a tile, so 2 turns for a rail, make sure you keep the workers in their groups. Switch a few cav builds to rifles. Upgrade 2 muskets to rifles. Time to bring our indian campaginers home. I decide to give them a turn of healing first, but next turn they leave and delhi is abandoned.

IBT - Kill 2 Indian cavalry on defence (47-11).

Turn 10 - Kill 2 french cavs, a russian knight an indian cav, an indian musket and an indian pike (52-11) and raze Hyderbad. Move our indian campaigners homeward. Abandon Delhi.
Some units left to move. I'll hand over the save now.

- Make sure we keep working on rails, the first lot will finish in the interturn,
- hold the fronts, advance when possible.
- Start researching again
- Get banks built
- Go for Industrialization next
- Suggest treating the game like AW from here on in (seeing as how hard it will be to make peace)
- Smith's, Newton's and Bach's are all still up for grabs, I suggest using leaders to rush them in that order.
- Good luck JJJ!

PS - I apologise for not having any pictures in this report, my main computer is having some difficulties so this was done on my dads laptop.
 

Attachments

Sorry about the pults. I did not think of them. IIRC they were all fortified, so I forgot to check for them.

France declared war on the last IBT of my set and I mentioned it in my report, so I really had no time to react much. I sent our armies into Indian lands. Punjab I just took as I wanted to go for India and it lowered our units costs and wanted to avoid the other civs to settle there. Otherwise I would have just razed it of course.
 
OK I got it!
I won't be able to get to right away.
I hope to get it done by Thursday, Friday at the lastest.

I didn't expect to be in the steam age all ready that is one thing I was kind of surprised by.
Do we want to start a prebuild for TOE?
or do we hope for leader luck.
 
@Markh - no harm done, if i sound angry it was more me being worried because I hadn't paid close enough attention when reading your report, and I didn't realise we were at war with france. next thing I know a big stack of knights is at Salzburg and I'm looking here there and everywhere for some cats to prevent an attack :lol:

@JJJ - Is this your first game at Emperor or above? Just the comment about not expecting steam yet :lol: my most recent SP game (a 140x140 Earth Map with accurate start locations, playing as India) had the Ruskies building Universal Suffrage in 310AD while I was still struggling to get banks built :lol:
You'll need to turn on research again, go full pelt (with smallest surplus) for Industrialization-Electricity-Rep parts, then sci-method.
Don't start a prebuild until the city we want to build it in has factory and coal plant. Don't forget to keep building rails. Railnet first, then we can worry about making big cities fancy with lots more production, get that railnet built!
 
tupaclives said:
@Markh - no harm done, if i sound angry it was more me being worried because I hadn't paid close enough attention when reading your report, and I didn't realise we were at war with france. next thing I know a big stack of knights is at Salzburg and I'm looking here there and everywhere for some cats to prevent an attack :lol:

No problem, mate. I do not take it personal and criticism is always welcome. We are on a civilized forum, aren't we.:)
I tend not to mark important things in my reports, so it is for sure difficult for the next one to get everything. I will change that.
 
Back
Top Bottom