Turn 14 - 3350 BC
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Donovan Zoi
The Return
Donovan Zoi
The Return
Here are the topics for discussion.
Science Research We seem to be pretty set on going the Alphabet/Mathematics route. Any objections?
Fanatazuma's build queue After the Settler, our capital will revert to Size 1 for about 7 turns. What should we build next --- Worker, Warrior, start a new Settler?
City settlement order We seem to be pretty set about building the Ivory city next, right? Which one after that? The canal city, the SE river site or something else?
Incidentally, I already have a new name for our Ivory city, if no one objects. I would like to name it Merrick, named after the famous "Elephant Man" John Merrick. Topical and sounds somewhat city-like. What do you think?
Exploration Wally heads for the mountain, but should Edward head for the hill 2 spots north of the Sugar? Should we just adopt a "go to the highest elevation" protocol in our early exploration?
That's all I have, but feel free to bring up a topic of your own. There won't be anything groundbreaking to talk about for the next few turns.
Science Research We seem to be pretty set on going the Alphabet/Mathematics route. Any objections?
Fanatazuma's build queue After the Settler, our capital will revert to Size 1 for about 7 turns. What should we build next --- Worker, Warrior, start a new Settler?
City settlement order We seem to be pretty set about building the Ivory city next, right? Which one after that? The canal city, the SE river site or something else?
Incidentally, I already have a new name for our Ivory city, if no one objects. I would like to name it Merrick, named after the famous "Elephant Man" John Merrick. Topical and sounds somewhat city-like. What do you think?
Exploration Wally heads for the mountain, but should Edward head for the hill 2 spots north of the Sugar? Should we just adopt a "go to the highest elevation" protocol in our early exploration?
That's all I have, but feel free to bring up a topic of your own. There won't be anything groundbreaking to talk about for the next few turns.
RegentMan
Deity
Nope. I'm fine with alphabet then mathematics. After all, we need to teach our citizens the wonders of cube roots and imaginary numbers!
I'm feeling like a warrior for defense. After that, maybe another settler? A granary? What about the defense of our next city?
You would be correct; the ivory city must be founded next. After that... either the canal or the forest tile depending on what Wally and Edward find. However, I think "Regent Town" has a better ring to it than Merrick...
(Honestly Merrick sounds fine. Although another team might see it in the top five (one can dream) and deduct who and why we named it that. Just a thought (all in parenthesis!))Just like Peri, I think we should go with whichever reveils more land.
Good questions!
Cheetah
Deity
Looks good DZ.
I would support building a warrior after the settler. If possible we could send him to discover the land to the south before heading back to guard the city.
But once again I feel I have to remind you that we have a save game mailing list, and we would like the saves to be sent out...
I would support building a warrior after the settler. If possible we could send him to discover the land to the south before heading back to guard the city.
But once again I feel I have to remind you that we have a save game mailing list, and we would like the saves to be sent out...
Pegster
Warlord
Yep it looks good
We sgould wait with deciding the next city placement(after the Ivory one) until we see what lies in the east.
Edward should go straight east and then straight north to the hill.
After the settler we should build a warrior for defence, and i like Cheetah's suggestion to send it south to explore before fortifying it in the capital.
After the warrior a new settler, and then perhaps a worker.
We sgould wait with deciding the next city placement(after the Ivory one) until we see what lies in the east.
Edward should go straight east and then straight north to the hill.
After the settler we should build a warrior for defence, and i like Cheetah's suggestion to send it south to explore before fortifying it in the capital.
After the warrior a new settler, and then perhaps a worker.
Donovan Zoi
The Return
Originally posted by Cheetah
Looks good DZ.
But once again I feel I have to remind you that we have a save game mailing list, and we would like the saves to be sent out...
I am working on it, Cheetah. My goal was to start getting the games out regularly by Turn 15(next turn). Until then, please try to endure my analysis of our one city and surrounding area.
Cheetah
Deity
Hehe. No problem.
Pegster: I guess you meant straigth North-East and then North, so it would only need two turns to reach the hill?
Pegster: I guess you meant straigth North-East and then North, so it would only need two turns to reach the hill?
Pegster
Warlord
Yes ofc
NE and then North.
NE and then North.
Remember to check if we can lower the sci rate even more in the following turns, which I doubt though.
The path looks good, though. What do we have for a prebuild for ToZ?
Maybe a warrior or Javelin thrower (let's use them to get those barb slaves.
.) A orker would be done before the city grows, right? If not, a worker wouldn't be bad either. I think the city after that depends on the thing that is there someone on the other side of the landbridge. if there isn't, we should go for more productive city sites, but if there is someone there, I say let's take the canal before they do.
Merrick? Never heard of any Merrick. But I guess it sounds good.
I agree on the next move plans, but I think it shouldn't be automatic that we go for the highest point, as a mountain may give less view than a hill, for instance.
I'd say warrior to explore SE, than another warrior for MO duty.
Go for Ivory city, forget about the Canal right now.
Edit: I've read more now, I would strongly suggest two more warriors, one to explore the area in SE. I am inclined to propose the building of the third city there but I would like to know what's there in the first place.
The Canal city is a strategic place with little chances of development. Please forget it until you really built up the good cities. There is no issue of transport right now.
On the wonder city, that is a high risk that could do us good only if we strongly support the wonder city with at least one other feeder city which would provide workers to work the area and join the wonder city. Let's not rush into that.
Right now we need to explore more.
2nd Edit: We could replace the second warrior with a jav thrower.
Go for Ivory city, forget about the Canal right now.
Edit: I've read more now, I would strongly suggest two more warriors, one to explore the area in SE. I am inclined to propose the building of the third city there but I would like to know what's there in the first place.
The Canal city is a strategic place with little chances of development. Please forget it until you really built up the good cities. There is no issue of transport right now.
On the wonder city, that is a high risk that could do us good only if we strongly support the wonder city with at least one other feeder city which would provide workers to work the area and join the wonder city. Let's not rush into that.
Right now we need to explore more.
2nd Edit: We could replace the second warrior with a jav thrower.
RegentMan
Deity
Forgot we had those suckers. A jav thrower would be a good idea.
Hygro
soundcloud.com/hygro/
I want to start building Statue of Zues asap, and I agreed after a second settler in Fanatazuma, so lets get that second settler.
Emp.Napoleon
SUPER EMP!
1. I'm all for it
2. I would like a worker since I think that we should connect the Ivory city to the capital to make more happy people
3. Irovy city is the first piority then I think we should build the Canal city to get the food bonus fast to build more settlers.
4. I don't really care but I like the idea of staying in mountains
2. I would like a worker since I think that we should connect the Ivory city to the capital to make more happy people
3. Irovy city is the first piority then I think we should build the Canal city to get the food bonus fast to build more settlers.
4. I don't really care but I like the idea of staying in mountains
akots
Poet
Would completely agree with all the points. Building early wonder requires a feeder satellite city which is worker/settler factory with a food bonus and granary. It is required to improve terrain for wonder-building city and to join population to increase shield production there. Canal city currently would be useless just consuming a precious settler. Second city goes to ivory and third to SE.
Based on current map layout, tight build with no more than 3 spaces between the cities (distance 3.5-4.0) is a best choice.
Hygro
soundcloud.com/hygro/
How many of you are truly familiar with the Statue of Zues?
If you are, you will understand that it's an overpowered wonder and this is our chance to make it to the finals. You know how stupid we would look if we didn't get it soon enough, or someone got it first?
If you are, you will understand that it's an overpowered wonder and this is our chance to make it to the finals. You know how stupid we would look if we didn't get it soon enough, or someone got it first?
akots
Poet
What if we are on an island and far from other civs? How we can use that SoZ and ACavalry? Indeed, SoZ is VERY powerful. Probably, enough to win the game with some luck.
To build an early wonder is easy indeed. It takes 2 cities. One has granary with food bonus and pumps workers. Workers improve terrain and join the wonder-building city. These two cities do nothing else but build that wonder. The wonder-building city has to be on the river to get over pop 6 preferably all the way up to 12. It has to have low corruption (no more than 4 tiles from capital and at most rank 2 or 3 on Emperor difficulty (corruption of 10% or less) or it may be the capital itself. Rather good choice may be the ivory city itself because it would have some ivory in its radius hence some additional commerce helping to keep population happy. In any case, getting out of Despotism ASAP may be the top priority and discovery of Mathematics has to be timed with wonder prebuild. No need to rush researching Math or Alphabet, there is still enough time for prebuild to go. However, for me it is not clear whether wonder prebuild is possible or it is forbidden by the rules.
In any case, growth is top priority! Only cities on river or with food bonus in the radius can be built now!
To build an early wonder is easy indeed. It takes 2 cities. One has granary with food bonus and pumps workers. Workers improve terrain and join the wonder-building city. These two cities do nothing else but build that wonder. The wonder-building city has to be on the river to get over pop 6 preferably all the way up to 12. It has to have low corruption (no more than 4 tiles from capital and at most rank 2 or 3 on Emperor difficulty (corruption of 10% or less) or it may be the capital itself. Rather good choice may be the ivory city itself because it would have some ivory in its radius hence some additional commerce helping to keep population happy. In any case, getting out of Despotism ASAP may be the top priority and discovery of Mathematics has to be timed with wonder prebuild. No need to rush researching Math or Alphabet, there is still enough time for prebuild to go. However, for me it is not clear whether wonder prebuild is possible or it is forbidden by the rules.
In any case, growth is top priority! Only cities on river or with food bonus in the radius can be built now!
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