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Unique Civ-Specific Great People Names

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Mod Components' started by Gaius Octavius, Dec 31, 2006.

  1. Xyth

    Xyth History Rewritten

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    The same way that Unique units work, each civ has its own unique version of each type of great people, each with its own list of possible names. The bit I'm not sure of is how these are hidden from showing in the Civopedia and such, it looks like there's a new entry added to the unit schema but I don't know if this is something available (but hidden) in regular BTS or if it requires some custom .dll from somewhere.

    Edit: Actually looks like the added entry in the unit schema is listed in the Modiki so I assume it is a standard tag and no custom .dll is required.
     
  2. PPQ_Purple

    PPQ_Purple Techpriest Engineer

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    Thanks for that, I will use it for my own mod comp.
    I am working on something unique.

    BTW, what tag is that? And where is that mod wiki.
     
  3. Gaius Octavius

    Gaius Octavius Chieftain

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    PPQ_Purple: The tag would be bGraphicalOnly, and can be used in just about any XML file, including leaderheads. I use it to hide a lot of unavailable leaders in various scenarios I've made -- saves me the trouble of removing them manually. :p

    There are actually two ways the naming system works, the old one being the UU system Xyth referred to. If you want custom names in your mod, I'd recommend using the newer Python setup, as it saves a lot of time and hassle. I think Grave still has it in his mod if you don't want to wait for the new version.


    702: Thanks for the new suggestions. I wish people would submit names more often! :)
     
  4. 702

    702 Chieftain

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    Haha funny you should mention that Gaius. I have had a play around with your lists, and one of the things I did was to look for more people to add,
    some of these you may already have mind you, and I haven't went through the list of Righteous of the Nations. All my research was done on the internet, and the vast majority of these people are on wikipedia. If not then Google should suffice (though it may not be the top result, so the Maya artist Wakab Nal is third down here,
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Wakab+Nal&meta=

    Spoiler :

    America
    Spoiler :
    As you'll see with America, and other civs, I added in the founders of religions themselves. I also thought to add a few non-Christians, to represent America as a melting pot,
    GP
    Joseph Smith, Jr., Mordecai Kaplan, Isaac Mayer Wise, David Einhorn, Robert Thurman, Henry Steel Olcott, L. Ron Hubbard, Ellen G. White, Charles Taze Russell, Wallace Fard Muhammed
    GA
    Buster Keaton, Isaac Asimov, Marlon Brando, Elvis Presley
    GSc
    William Morris Davis, Clyde Tombaugh
    GM
    Leland Stanford
    GSp
    James Jesus Angleton, Meredith Gardner


    Arab
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Ibn Taymiyyah, Zayd ibn Ali, Muhammad
    GA
    Tawfiq el-Hakim, Zuhayr, Abdul Alhazred
    GSc
    Ibn Rushd, Ibn Tufail, Al Qalasadi, Ibn al-Thahabi, Ibn al-Baitar, Al-Hamdani
    GM
    Yaqut al-Hamawi
    GG
    Qutaibah bin Muslim
    GSp
    Wadih el-Hage, Sulaiman al-Barouni, Omar Mukhtar, Farid Essebar, Faisal bin Musa'id, Khalid Islambouli, Hamdi Quran, Harith al-Dhari


    Aztec
    Spoiler :
    With the Aztecs, and a few others, I tried as far as possible to stick to "native" people, and not people from the nation there today. Those Mexicans in the Aztec list are at least partly Nahua
    GP
    Ahuachpitzactzin, Martin Ocelotl, Isabel Moctezuma
    GA
    Cacamatzin, Natalio Hernández, Juan Bautista de Pomar, Xayacamach, Xicotencatl I, Ignacio Manuel Altamirano, Luz Jiménez, Nezahualcoyotl, Tecayehuatzin
    GSc
    Eduardo Matos Moctezuma, Martín de la Cruz
    GE
    Acacitli
    GM
    Matlatzincatzin, Juan Velázquez Tlacotzin, Fernando Alvarado Tezozomoc
    GG
    Tzilacatzin, Xicotencatl II
    GSp
    Maxixcatl


    Babylon
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Aphrahat, Amat-Mamu
    GA
    Lucian
    GSc
    Seleucus, Esagil-kin-apli
    GE
    Amuhia
    GSp
    Naqi’a-Zakutu


    Byzantine
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Damascius, Gregory of Nazianzus, Michael I Cerularius
    GA
    Manuel Chrysoloras, John Kukuzelis, Kassia, John Mauropous, Priscus
    GSc
    Nicholas Myrepsos, Paul of Aegina, Michael Psellos
    GE
    Ioulianos, Leontios
    GM
    Loukas Notaras, Zemarchus
    GG
    Mabrikias, Maurice, Artabanes, Basil Boioannes, Licario, John II Komnenos
    GSp
    Illus


    Carthage
    Spoiler :
    A few Phoenicians here, as you'll know, there are damn few Carthaginians known to us!
    GP
    Lactantius, Arnobius
    GA
    Sanchuniathon
    GSc
    Marinus of Tyre, Euphorbus, Constantine
    GE
    Dido, Ithobaal, Ozalces
    GM
    Abi-Milku, Rib-Hadda, Sychaeus
    GSp
    Bomilcar, Hannibal the Rhodian, Hanno, Hasdrubal, Yappa-Hadda, Pygmalion, Abdi-Milkutti


    Celt
    Spoiler :
    With the Celts I focussed mainly on the "ancient" Celts, to fit in with Brennus and Bouddicca. Some of the modern ones could go in the English list as well I suppose, though I'd do that on a case by case basis (yes for James Watt, no for Walter Scott). The merchants are mainly petty kings who had coins minted, I'm not sure they were actually important at all, even from a "spread of currency" pov, but names at least. Also, I tried to represent all the "modern" Celtic nations of today, adding at least one representative from Cornwall, the Isle of Man, and Brittany. These people were not very important, but add a little diversity,
    GP
    Gennadius, Germanus, St. Alban, St. Julius, St. Aaron, Diviciacus, Lailoken, St. Deiniol, St. Gildas, St. Brigid, St. Cuby, St. Aedan, St. Maughold, Myrddin Wyllt, Adiatorix, St. David, Duns Scotus, St. Mungo, St. Melaine
    GA
    Favorinus, Sidonius Apollinaris, Aneirin, Taliesin, Maelgwyn Gwynedd, Bluchbardd, Cian Gwenith Gwawd, Walter Scott, James Joyce, Hywel ab Owain Gwynedd, George Bernard Shaw, Sean Connery
    GSc
    Marcus Antonius Gnipho, Abascantus, Marcellus Empiricus, Augustine Eriugena, Dicuil, Trogus, James Alfred Ewing, James Clerk Maxwell, Alexander Fleming, Sir Charles Lyell, Lord Kelvin
    GE
    Bellovesus, Addedomarus, Tasciovanus, Offa, Dubnovellaunus, James Nasmyth, James Watt
    GM
    Tincomarus, Agroecius, Indutiomarus, Vindex, Biatec
    GG
    Epaticcus, Togodumnus, Riothamus, Cassivellaunus, Viriathus, Urien, Bolgios, Lutarius, Leonnorius, Calgacus
    GSp
    Casticus, Commius, Orgetorix, Liscus, Acco, Aelianus, Crixus, Oenomaus, Llofan Llaf Difo, Casticus, Bobby Sands, Eamon Broy


    China
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Zhu Xi, Li Hongzhi, Laozi
    GSc
    Song Ci, Shi Shen, Jing Fang, Hua Tuo
    GE
    Ximen Bao, Sunshu Ao, Yu Hao
    GM
    Xu Fu, Rang Tai, Zhou Daguan, Du Huan
    GG
    Fu Hao
    GSp
    Zhang Jiao, Kang Sheng, Dai Li


    Dutch
    Spoiler :
    With the Dutch I added a lot of GGs since many of yours seemed to better fit into the GM category, having done more exploring than fighting it seemed.
    GP
    Abraham Kuyper
    GA
    Jacob van Ruysdael, Gerard Dou, Frans Hals
    GSc
    Jean Emile Humbert, Gerardus ‘t Hooft
    GE
    Jan Leeghwater, Menno van Coehoorn
    GM
    Alexandrine Tinné, Jan Pieterszoon Coen, Petrus Plancius
    GG
    Jacob van Heemskerk, Philips von Almonde, Menno van Coehoorn, Ygo Gales Galama, Maarten Tromp, Cornelis Tromp, Witte Corneliszoon de With, Jacob van Wassenaer Obdam, Gerardus Johannes Berenschot


    Egypt
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Tjuyu
    GA
    Amenemope
    GSc
    Ctesibius
    GE
    Hassan Fathy, Ramses Wissa Wassef, Abdel-Wahed El-Wakil, Amenhotep, Senusret II, Puimre
    GM
    Hannu, Ahmed Hassanein, Hannu, Nehsi, Senusret I, Useramun, Huya, Sennefer
    GG
    Senusret III Necho II
    GSp
    Horemheb


    England
    Spoiler :
    One or two of these could theoretically also go in the Celt list, as they are Scottish. With England, and several other civs, I added "foreign" GSpys, who defected, so Oleg Gordievsky doesn't sound English, but he did defect from the KGB. Up to you of course if you want to keep these or not.
    GP
    John Fisher, John Wycliffe, Gerald Gardner, John Smyth, Aleister Crowley
    GA
    Charlotte Brontë, Virginia Woolf, Spike Milligan, Capability Brown, L.S. Lowry, John Betjeman, Wilfred Owen, Percy Bysshe Shelley, Jane Austen
    GSc
    Bertrand Russell, William Gilbert, William Harvey, John Dee
    GE
    Richard Trevithick, Nigel Gresley, Augustus Welby Northmore Pugin
    GM
    John Davis
    GG
    Alfred the Great, John Hawkins, Anthony Blaxland Stransham, Richard Howe, Samuel Hood, Edward Codrington, Roger Keyes, Edmund Allenby
    GSp
    Aphra Behn, Jerome Horsey, John Colville, John Mason, Matthew Smith, Richard Willis, William Wickham, Gilbert Gifford, Oleg Gordievsky


    Ethiopia
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Anayer, Ewostatewos, Haile Selassie, Mahay Choramo, Na’od
    GA
    Gedewon, Bahrey
    GSc
    Tewolde Berhan, Abba Samuel Wolde Kahin
    GM
    Mohammed Abdillahi Ogsadey, Tekle Hawariat, Endubis
    GG
    Ras Gobena, Balcha Safo, Baeda Maryam, Bahr negus Yeshaq
    GSp
    Sebhat Ephrem, Sebhat Aregawi, Elene, Mengistu Neway, Mara Takla Haymanot


    France
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Gersonides
    GA
    Guilhem de Peitieus
    GSc
    Firmin Abauzit
    GE
    Louis Maurice Adolphe Linant de Bellefonds, Jacques de Vaucanson, Charles Lartigue, André Chapelon
    GG
    André Masséna, Jean Lannes, Louis Francois I de Bourbon
    GSp
    Omar Nasiri, Amédée-François Frézier, Fernand Bonnier de La Chapelle, Darius Paul Dassault, Louis-Alexandre de Launay


    Germany
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Abraham Geiger, Franz Xaver von Baader, Karl Hase, Adolph Kolping, Friedrich Schleiermacher, August Neander, Ferdinand Christian Bauer, Richard Rothe, Georg Hermes, Bruno Bauer, August Hahn, Nicolaus Ludwig Zinzendorf
    GA
    Fritz Lang
    GSc
    Ferdinand Cohn, Robert Kock, Theodor Mommsen
    GE
    Wilhelm Messerschmitt, Hans von Ohain
    GG
    Manfred von Richthofen
    GSp
    Markus Wolf, Arthur Scherbius, Paul Emil von Lettow-Vorbeck


    Greece
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Agias, Aristander
    GA
    Phrynichus, Aristophanes, Sappho, Leochares, Bryaxis, Scopas, Timotheos
    GSc
    Anaximander, Spyridon Marinatos, Xenocrates, Evenor
    GE
    Dinocrates, Eupalinos, Phaeax, Sostratus, Theodorus, Chersiphron, Metagenes, Dionysodorus, Epimachus, Pythis, Aristobulus, Callimachus, Chersiphron, Eupalinos, Sostratus, Theodorus, Satyros
    GM
    Eubulus, Dicaearchus, Crates, Callistratus, Eudoxus, Euthymenes, Hippalus, Eubulus, Isidore, Pasion, Antisthenes
    GG
    Constantine Kanaris, Epaminondas, Diades
    GSp
    Aratus


    Holy Roman Empire
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Julius von Pflug, Philipp Jakob Spener
    GA
    Gottfried von Strassurg, Ava,
    GSc
    Andreas Stoberl, Georg Joachim Rheticus, Johann Georg Faust
    GM
    Petachiah of Ratisbon, Abraham Ortelius
    GG
    Georg von Frundsberg
    GSp
    Augustus the Younger


    Inca
    Spoiler :
    One or two of these are simply names, and I don't think there is an actual reason for them to be in any category...
    Villanueva can be read about here,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B'nai_Moshe
    GP
    Quispe Yupanqui, Mama Tankariy Yachiy, Villanueva
    GA
    Roberto Mamani Mamani, Franz Tamayo, José María Arguedas, Pastorita Huaracina, Mercedes Sosa, Oswaldo Guayasmin, Elicura Chihuailaf
    GSc
    Silvia Rivera Cusicanqui, A. Roberto Frisancho, Eugenio Espejo, Inca Garcilaso de la Vega
    GE
    Amaru Yupanqui, Mama Cora, Ayar Anca, Ayar Cachi
    GM
    Evo Morales, Teuotihi, Cusi Hilpay
    GG
    Rumiaoui, Agustín Gamarra, Ramón Castilla, Ullco Colla, Ucumari, Michimalonco
    GSp
    Tupac Amaru II, Tupac Katari, Tomas Katari, Cura Ocllo, Felipe Quispe, Bartolina Sisa, Gregoria Apaza, Hugo Blanco


    India
    Spoiler :
    I added a few Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in here
    GP
    Parsva, Gautama Buddha, Nagarjuna, Basava, Madhvacharya, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Ram Mohan Roy, Sri Aurobindo, Kabir, Patañjali, Vallalar
    GA
    Abu al-Hasan, Ustad Mansur, Sahibdin, Dilip Kumar, Auvaiyar, Bhavabhuti, Satyajit Ray, Sadequain, Faizi, Tansen, Jayadeva
    GSc
    Varahamirhira, Qazi Motahar Hossain, Muhammed Qudrut-i-Khuda, Braj Basi Lal, Madhav, Sushruta, Muhammed Zafar Iqbal, Amal Kumar Raychaudhuri, Megh Nad Saha
    GE
    Abdul Qadeer Khan, Ardaseer Cursetjee, Ustad Ahmad Lahauri, Mir Abd-ul Karim
    GM
    Muhammed Yunus, Verghese Kurien, Vaman Srinivas Kudva
    GG
    Aurangzeb, Maha Singh, Kanhoji Angre
    GSp
    Nana Sahib, Khudiram Bose, Rameshwar Nath Kao


    Japan
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Nakayama Miki, Hakuin Ekaku, Ryogen, Tsuneasburo Makiguchi
    GA
    Takeshi Kitano
    GSc
    Naomasa Yamasaki
    GE
    Masamune, Inokuchi Arika, Yoshida Tetsuro, Tanaka Hisashige, Takeda Ayasaburo, Toyo Ito
    GM
    Mamiya Rinzo, Ino Tadataka
    GG
    Oda Nobunaga, Heki Danjo Masatsugu, Sakanoue no Tamuramaro, Minamoto no Yoshitune, Hozoin In’ei, Oyama Iwao
    GSp
    Kirino Toshiaki, Tanaka Shinbei, Okada Izo, Komoto Daisaku, Yoshira, Fuma Kotaro, Toshio Miyazaki


    Khmer
    Spoiler :

    GA
    Norodom Sihamoni, Rithy Panh, Chuon Nath, Krom Ngoy
    GSc
    Punya Thitmajshima, Sirindhorn, Tanin Kraivixien, Sirirurg Songsivilai, Beat Richer
    GE
    Kavindrarimathana, Vann Molyvann, Paitip
    GM
    Teng Bunma, Sanghapala
    GG
    Sisowath Monireth, Ishanavarman
    GSp
    Poc Khun, Achar Mean, Achar Sok, Tou Samouth, Lon Nol


    Korea
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Jinul, Wonhyo, Uisang
    GA
    Park Chan-wook, Hyewon, Yun Seondo
    GSc
    Yong Pil Rhee, Rhee Sue-Goo, Heo Jun, Ri Sung Gi
    GE
    Kim Ung-yong
    GM
    Kim Jeong-ho
    GG
    Kim Yushin
    GSp
    Kim Jwa-jin, Ji Cheong-cheon, Jang In-hwan, Jeon Myeong-un


    Mali
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Sulayman Bal, Maba Diakhou Ba
    GA
    Ali Farka Touré, Souleymane Cissé, Bukari Sumano
    GSc
    Modibo Mohammed Al Kaburi, Oumar Mariko
    GE
    Ismaila Traoré, Choguel Kokalla Maiga
    GM
    Sidibé Aminata Diallo, Soumana Sacko, Bassary Touré, Ousman Sy
    GG
    Muhammadu Kanta, Tiramakhan Traore, Mansong Diarra, El Hadj Umar Tall
    GSp
    Sakura, Askia Musa, Askia Mohammad Benkan, Sandaki Mari Djata, Moussa Traoré, Tiemoko Garan Kouyaté, Aoua Kéita, Amadou Toumani Touré


    Maya
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Lady Eveningstar, Quq'kumatz,
    GA
    Wakab Nal, Ak’abal, Rigoberta Menchú, Armando Manzanero
    GSc
    Hilario Chi Canul, Gaspar Antonio Chi
    GE
    Chan Chak K'ak'nal Ajaw, T'ah 'ak' Cha'an
    GM
    Smoking Squirrel
    GG
    Tz'ikin, Hunac Ceel
    GSp
    Jacinto Canek, Ramona, Crescencio Poot


    Mongol
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Doquz Khatun
    GA
    Danzanravjaa, Sayantsetseg
    GSc
    Jamsrangiin Tseveen, Temüge
    GE
    Gelenkhüü
    GM
    Ahmad Fanakati, Rabban Bar Sauma
    GG
    Guo Kan, Damdin Sükhbaatar, Chilaun, Hulagu Khan, Bayan of the Baarin, Chormaqan
    GSp
    Tokhtamysh, Chingünjav, Taghachar, Yesüder


    Native American
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Black Elk, Curly Headed Doctor, Encouraging Bear, Isa-tai, Bowdash, Kennekuk, Kateri Tekakwitha, Thomas Yellowtail, Chief Joseph, Quanah Parker
    GA
    Loren Bommelyn, Hosteen Klah, Susan Aglukark, Zacharias Kunuk
    GSc
    Paul Apodaca, George Horse-Capture, Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz, Charles Eastman, Linda Hogan, Susan La Flesche Picotte, Angaangaq Lyberth, Oronhyatekha
    GE
    John Herrington, Nakasuk, Uyaquk
    GM
    Mikak, Tookoolito, Ada Blackjack, Suersaq, Keish, Shaaw Tláa, Pocahontas
    GG
    Francis Pegahmagabow, Tommy Prince, Mishikinakwa
    GSp
    Piapot


    Ottoman
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Imam Birgivi
    GA
    Pir Sultan Abdal, Orhan Pamuk, Ali Aziz Efendi, Imadadin Nasimi, Nakkash Osman, Abdulcelil Levni
    GSc
    Ekrem Akurgal, Taqi al-Din, Abdullah Cevdet, Ali Kuscu, Engin Arik, Ahmet Cevdet Pasha
    GE
    Vedat Dalokay
    GM
    Yirmisekiz Mehmed Celebi, Ahmed Resmi Efendi, Piri Reis, Hagop Kazazian Pasha, Kurtoglu Hizir Reis
    GG
    Hayreddin Barbarossa, Kemal Reis
    GSp
    Atilla Ekici, Yasef Nasi, Mehmet Eymür, Ahmet Riza, Abdullah Cevdet


    Persia
    Spoiler :

    GP
    ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, Mahabad, Sasan, Sunpadh, Benjamin Nahawandi
    GA
    Ubayd Zakani
    GSc
    Nasir al-Din al-Tusi, Qutb al-Din al-Shirazi, Mahmoud Behzad, Ibn Abi Sadiq
    GE
    Gaubaruva, Heydar Ghiai, Akbar Adibi
    GM
    Amin Razi
    GSp
    Ali Fallahian, Reza Taslimi, Ibn Khordadbeh


    Portugal
    Spoiler :

    GA
    Aquilino Ribeiro, Luís de Camões
    GE
    Sebastião José de Carvalho e Melo, Gago Countinho, Carlos Amarante
    GM
    Fernão Mendes Pinto
    GG
    Sancho Manoel de Vilhena, António Correia, Afonso de Albuquerque
    GSp
    Duarte Fernandes, Humberto Delgado


    Roman
    Spoiler :
    I focussed mainly on Romans as opposed to Italians here. I expect there are plenty more Italians, but my personal preference is for predominantly Roman. With the GPs, I tried to add in some more pagans, since after all Rome was pagan for most of its history,
    GP
    Numa Pompilius, Caecilia Metella, Aemilia, Attus Navius, Nigidius Figulus, Paculla Annia
    GA
    Clodia, Lucilius, Clodius Aesopus, Roscius, Martial
    GSc
    Dioscorides, Sextus Empiricus, Antonius Musa, Aulus Cornelius Celsus, Adrastus, Sulpicius Gallus, Spurius Carvilius Ruga
    GE
    Cocceius Auctus, Hygiunus Gromaticus, Rabirius, Aggenus Urbicus, Siculus Flaccus
    GM
    Marcus Lollius, Sergius Orata, Maes Titianus, Tiberius Claudius Narcissus
    GG
    Lucius Lucullus, Gaius Duilius, Marcus Atilius Regulus, Gnaeus Julius Agricola
    GSp
    Niccolò Machiavelli, Audax, Ditalcus, Minurus


    Russia
    Spoiler :

    GM
    Ivan Fedorovich Kruzenshtern, Vitus Bering, Afanasiy Nikitin, Gerasim Izmailov, Ivan Fedorov, Ferdinand Wrangel, Pyotr Kozlov, Yermak Timofeyevich, Gennady Nevelskoy, Oleg Antonov, Nikolai Alekseevich Severtzov, Nikolai Przhevalsky, Semyon Dezhnev, Fabian Gottlieb von Bellingshausen, Nikolay Novikov, Vagit Alekperov, Vladimir Lisin, Viktor Vekselberg, Piotr Smirnov
    GSp
    Kim Philby


    Spain
    Spoiler :

    GA
    Pedro Almodóvar
    GSc
    Miguel Servet
    GM
    Rosalía Mera


    Sumeria
    Spoiler :

    GSc
    Lipit-Ishtar
    GM
    Manishtushu
    GSp
    Utu-hengal


    Viking
    Spoiler :
    With the Vikings, I tried to focus on older Scandinavia. There are several skalds here, though they probably aren't all particularly important skalds, though some are.
    GP
    Ragnvaldr Rettilbein, Thórbjörg, Olaf Tryggvason, Thorgeirr Ljósvetningagodi, Hans Egede
    GA
    Snorri Sturluson, Bragi Boddason, Egill Skallagrimsson, Gunnlaugr Ormstunga, Ottarr svarti, Einarr Skúlason, Ari Thorgilsson, Brother Robert, Knut Hamsun, Edvard Munch, Henrik Ibsen, Oláfr Thórdarson
    GSc
    Jöns Jakob Berzelius, Svante Arrhenius, Haukr Erlendsson, Nils Gustaf Ekholm, Therkel Mathiassen, Fridtjof Nansen, Knud Johan Victor Rasmussen
    GE
    Torleiv Maseng, Olaf Nordhagen, Carl Abraham Phil, Agner Krarup Erlang, Uno Lamm
    GM
    Bjarni Herjólfsson, Arnórr jarlaskáld, Gudrídr Thorbjarnardóttir, Thorfinn Karlsefni, Christian Barnekow, Ohthere of Hålogaland, Ejnar Mikkelsen, Gustav Frederik Holm, Olaf Hoskuldsson, Ingólfur Arnarson, Svantepolk
    GG
    Hastein, Bolli Bollason, Thorfinn Sigurdsson, Magnus Stenbock, Hjalmar Riiser-Larsen
    GSp
    Sverre Granlund, Mogens Fog, Jens Christian Hauge, Bror With


    Zulu
    Spoiler :

    GP
    Desmond Tutu, Njongonkulu Ndungane, Allan Hendrickse, Barney Pityana, John Langalibalele Dube
    GA
    Zola, Dudu Mntowaziwayo Ndlovu, Magogo kaDinuzulu, Mzwakhe Mbuli, Dizu Plaatjies, Lionel Ngakane, Henry Cele, Patrick Ngcobo, Sibusiso Nyembezi
    GSc
    Z. K. Mathews, Lydia Makhubu
    GE
    Charl Fourie, Frank Mdlalose, Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri
    GM
    Kubi Indi, Joe Mafela
    GG
    Ntshingwayo Khoza, Soshangane
    GSp
    Mangosuthu Buthelezi, Mbopa, Leabua Jonathan, Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma, Andrew Sibusiso Zondo


    Anyway, I hope this is useful!

    The word "spoiler" has lost all meaning to me.
     
  5. PPQ_Purple

    PPQ_Purple Techpriest Engineer

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    I am not working on great people, what I am working on is the idea that Battleships and Aircraft carriers should recieve unique names lik GP when they are built.
    In my games I rarely have more than 10-20 of them and I thought the idea would reflect nicely upon the game.

    After all, Battleships and Carriers are the GP of naval warfare and in militairy sense there is nothing realy like them. Each one is unique and expensive.
    What do you think of the idea?

    BTW, where do I get this Python? The downloads only point toward the XML version.
     
  6. Gaius Octavius

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    Wow, you get a big cookie for those lists, 702. :goodjob: Very rarely have I had anybody take that much of an interest in this project.

    I pretty much agree with all your comments. Going back over the lists the past couple of weeks, I can see how restricted some of the categories originally were, usually because of lack of available data or time constraints on my part. (Carthage, as you say, is a real pain, but there was no excuse for countries like Britain, Russia, and Germany having sparsely populated GG lists. :mischief:) It's surprising to me that at one time, I actually toyed with the idea of religion-specific prophets, which would consist of subclasses for each civ type. So that way, if you were a Hindu Russia, you would get different great prophets than you would if you were a Buddhist or Islamic Russia. Needless to say, that was too impractical to manage. :crazyeye:


    PPQ_Purple: That's an excellent idea, and I might have something of interest to you. I did a similar thing for industrial and modern units in a personal mod, which includes ship names. They're mostly drawn from Paradox's HoI and Victoria series, but I got some from wiki as well. If you are interested, I would be glad to post a few here. Justatourist did some as well (they're a few posts back).

    The Python can be found in Grave's History in the Making Mod, I believe, and if not there then in the BTS version of my World War II scenario. I highly recommend it, since it lets you put all the names in one convenient array rather than dozens of XML entries.
     
  7. PPQ_Purple

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    I would wery much like to see those lists. I have been mostly thinking of geting the names from wikipedia, it has a good list of all 20th century navies and their ship names so I could get most entries from there but since you have complied a list already that would be a great help.
     
  8. Gaius Octavius

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    Ok, here is a partial list of battleships, taken from Victoria.

    Spoiler :


    America

    USS Maine
    USS Texas
    USS Indiana
    USS Massachusetts
    USS Oregon
    USS Iowa
    USS Kearsarge
    USS Kentucky
    USS Illinois
    USS Alabama
    USS Wisconsin
    USS Missouri
    USS Ohio
    USS Virginia
    USS Nebraska
    USS Georgia
    USS New Jersey
    USS Rhode Island
    USS Connecticut
    USS Louisiana
    USS Vermont
    USS Kansas
    USS Minnesota
    USS Mississippi
    USS Idaho
    USS New Hampshire
    USS South Carolina
    USS Delaware
    USS Michigan
    USS North Dakota
    USS Florida
    USS Utah
    USS Wyoming
    USS Arkansas
    USS New York
    USS Nevada
    USS Oklahoma
    USS Pennsylvania
    USS Arizona
    USS New Mexico
    USS Tennessee
    USS California
    USS Colorado
    USS Maryland
    USS Washington
    USS West Virginia
    USS South Dakota
    USS Montana
    USS North Carolina



    Egypt

    Nasr
    al-Qahira
    Abu Simbel
    Aswan
    Nijmi Shevket
    Assari Shevket
    Lutfi Djelil
    Mehemet Ali
    Ibrahim
    Sakka
    Hifzi Rahman
    Muhammad 'Ali
    Salah al-Din
    Ramses
    Bur Safajah
    Al Ghardaqah
    Bur Tawfiq
    Marsa Matruh
    Al Iskandariyah
    Najim al Zafir
    El Aboukir
    El Suez
    Rasheed
    Damyat
    Sharm El-Sheikh
    Toushka



    Turkey

    Sultan Osman I
    Turgud Reis
    Yavuz Sultan Selim
    Hayreddin Barbarossa
    Sultan Orcan
    Sultan Solyman II
    Sultan Ahmed I
    Sultan Mustafa III
    Sultan Selim III
    Sultan Mahmed II
    Sultan Abdul Mejid
    Osmaniye
    Mahmudiye
    Orhaniye
    Abdülaziz
    Assar-i Tevfik
    Assar-i Shevket
    Necim-i Shevket
    Avni Illah
    Muin-i Zafer
    Iclaliye
    Midilli
    Mehmed Selim
    Lütfi Humayun
    Heybetnuma
    Hamidiye
    Mecidiye
    Resadiye
    Mesudiye
    Feth-ül Islam



    France

    Charles Martel
    Jauréguiberry
    Carnot
    Requin
    Henri Quatre
    Bouvet
    Charlemagne
    Amiral Duperré
    Amiral Baudin
    St. Louis
    Gaulois
    Suffren
    République
    Patrie
    Démocratie
    Justice
    Verité
    Diderot
    Condorcet
    Vergniaud
    Voltaire
    Danton
    Mirabeau
    France
    Paris
    Jean Bart
    Courbet
    Bretagne
    Lorraine
    Provence
    Terrible
    Indomptable
    Formidable
    Caïman
    Hoche
    Marceau
    Neptune
    Magenta
    Brennus
    Masséna
    Charlemagne
    Iéna
    Liberté



    Germany

    Hindenburg
    Mackensen
    Prinz Eitel Friedrich
    Fürst Bismarck
    Yorck
    Freya
    Tirpitz
    Schlieffen
    Moritz
    Zieten
    Bethmann-Hollweg
    Bülow
    Caprivi
    Hohenlohe
    Holstein
    Steinmetz
    Zastrow
    Prinz Friedrich Karl
    Alvensleben
    Voigts-Rhetz
    Jagow
    Schutter
    Roeder
    Tippelskirch
    Dennewitz
    Losthin
    Goeben
    Beowulf
    Odin
    Ägir
    Frithjof
    Siegfried
    Hagen
    Heimdall
    Hildebrand
    Seydlitz
    von der Tann
    Moltke
    Deutschland
    Grosser Kurfürst
    Hessen
    Hannover
    Schlesien
    Schleswig-Holstein
    Braunschweig
    Elsaß
    Lothringen
    Preußen
    Wittelsbach
    Wettin
    Zähringen
    Mecklenburg
    Schwaben
    Brandenburg
    Scharnhorst
    Gneisenau
    Worth
    Kaiser Friedrich III
    Kaiser Wilhelm II
    Kaiser Barbarossa
    Kaiser Wilhelm der Große
    Kaiser Karl der Große
    Nassau
    Westfalen
    Rheinland
    Posen
    Helgoland
    Ostfriesland
    Thüringen
    Oldenburg
    Admiral Graf Spee
    Kaiser
    Friedrich der Große
    Kaiserin
    König Albert
    Prinzregent Luitpold
    Grosser Kurfürst
    König
    Markgraf
    Kronprinz
    Derfflinger
    Lützow
    Bayern
    Baden
    Sachsen
    Würtemberg
    Graf Zeppelin
    Clausewitz
    Barbarossa
    Seelöwe
    Amerika
    Rheingold
    Parsifal
    Lohengrin
    Germania



    Britain

    HMS Empress of India
    HMS Ramillies
    HMS Repulse
    HMS Resolution
    HMS Revenge
    HMS Royal Oak
    HMS Royal Sovereign
    HMS Hood
    HMS Centurion
    HMS Barfleur
    HMS Renown
    HMS Caesar
    HMS Hannibal
    HMS Illustrious
    HMS Jupiter
    HMS Majestic
    HMS Magnificent
    HMS Mars
    HMS Prince George
    HMS Victorious
    HMS Albion
    HMS Canopus
    HMS Glory
    HMS Goliath
    HMS Ocean
    HMS Vengeance
    HMS Formidable
    HMS Irresistible
    HMS Implacable
    HMS Bulwark
    HMS London
    HMS Venerable
    HMS Queen
    HMS Prince of Wales
    HMS Albemarle
    HMS Cornwallis
    HMS Duncan
    HMS Exmouth
    HMS Montagu
    HMS Russell
    HMS Africa
    HMS Britannia
    HMS Commonwealth
    HMS Dominion
    HMS Hibernia
    HMS Hindustan
    HMS King Edward VII
    HMS New Zealand
    HMS Swiftsure
    HMS Triumph
    HMS Lord Nelson
    HMS Agamemnon
    HMS Dreadnought
    HMS Bellerophon
    HMS Superb
    HMS Temeraire
    HMS Collingwood
    HMS St. Vincent
    HMS Vanguard
    HMS Indomitable
    HMS Inflexible
    HMS Invincible
    HMS Neptune
    HMS Colossus
    HMS Hercules
    HMS Indefatigable
    HMS New Zealand
    HMS Conqueror
    HMS Monarch
    HMS Orion
    HMS Thunderer
    HMS Lion
    HMS Princess Royal
    HMS King George V
    HMS Centurion
    HMS Audacious
    HMS Ajax
    HMS Queen Mary
    HMS Iron Duke
    HMS Marlborough
    HMS Benbow
    HMS Emperor of India
    HMS Tiger
    HMS Queen Elizabeth
    HMS Warspite
    HMS Valiant
    HMS Barham
    HMS Malaya
    HMS Ramillies
    HMS Resolution
    HMS Revenge
    HMS Royal Oak
    HMS Royal Sovereign
    HMS Renown
    HMS Repulse
    HMS Resistance
    HMS Erin
    HMS Agincourt
    HMS Canada
    HMS Hood
    HMS St. Andrew
    HMS St. George
    HMS St. David
    HMS St. Patrick
    HMS Nelson
    HMS Rodney
    HMS Prince of Wales
    HMS Duke of York
    HMS Anson
    HMS Howe
    HMS Jellicoe
    HMS Beatty
    HMS Courageous
    HMS Glorious
    HMS Furious



    Italy

    Giulio Cesare
    Leonardo da Vinci
    Conte di Cavour
    Caio Duilio
    Andrea Doria
    Francesco Caracciolo
    Italia
    Roma
    Impero
    Principe di Carignano
    Conte Verde
    Cristoforo Colombo
    Regina Elena
    Regina Maria Pia
    San Martino
    Castelfidardo
    Ruggiero Di Lauria
    Venezia
    Principe Amedeo
    Palestro
    Dandolo
    Lepanto
    Ruggiero di Lauria
    Francesco Morosini
    Umberto
    Sicilia
    Sardegna
    Dante Alighieri
    Regina Margerhita
    Vittorio Emanuele
    Benedetto Brin
    Emanuele Filiberto
    Ammiraglio di S. Bon
    Dandolo
    Milano
    Siracusa
    Mantova
    Torino
    Genova
    Ravenna
    Pescara
    Firenze
    Livorno
    Cagliari
    Caio Mario
    Attilio Regolo
    Cornelio Silla
    Pompeo Magno
    Scipione Africano
    Claudio Druso
    Claudio Tiberio
    Giulio Germanico
    Ottaviano Augusto
    Paolo Emilio
    Ulpio Traiano
    Vispanio Agrippa
    Vettor Pisani
    Cristoforo Colombo
    Flavio Gioia
    Amerigo Vespucci
    Pietro Micca
    Goito
    Monzambano
    Montebello
    Confienza
    Etna
    Vesuvio
    Stromboli
    Ettore Fieramosca
    Dogali
    Piemonte
    Umbira
    Lombardia
    Etruria
    Liguria
    Elba
    Puglia
    Calabria
    Marco Polo
    Carlo Alberto
    Varese
    Francesco Ferruccio
    Aquila
    Sparviero
    Europa
    Falco
    Sagittario



    Spain

    Pelayo
    España
    Alfonso XIII
    Jaime I
    Navarra
    Reina Victoria Eugenia
    Blas de Lezo
    Méndez Núñez
    Extremadura
    Río de la Plata
    Reina Cristina
    Alfonso XII
    Reina Mercedes
    Isla de Luzón
    Isla de Cuba
    Marqués de la Ensenada
    Velasco
    Gravina
    Infanta Isabel
    Reina Regente
    Cardenal Cisneros
    Cataluña
    Princesa de Asturias
    Canarias
    Baleares
    Cristobal Colón
    Conde de Venadito
    Don Juan de Austria
    Don Antonio de Ulloa
    Isabel II
    Carlos V
    Infanta María Teresa
    Vizcaya
    Oquendo
    Reina Regente
    Alfonso XIII
    Lepanto
    Puigcerdá
    Duque de Tetuán
    Numancia
    Victoria
    Tetuán
    Arapiles
    Zaragoza
    Sagunto
    Méndez Núñez
    Resolución
    Reina Regente
    Cardenal Cisneros
    Cataluña
    Princesa de Asturias
    Canarias
    Baleares



    Portugal

    Vasco da Gama
    Alvares Cabral
    Corte Real
    Constituição
    Liberal
    Independência
    Adamastor
    São Gabriel
    São Rafael
    Dom Carlos I
    Rainha Dona Amelia
    Patria
    Tejo
    Douro
    Rio Lima
    Vouga
    Diu
    Sá da Bandeira
    Duque da Terceira
    Mindello
    Afonso d'Albuquerque
    Bartholomeu Dias
    Estephania
    Sagres
    Dom Fernando II e Gloria
    Dom Joao I
    Goa
    Damão
    Vasco da Gama
    Bartolomeu Dias
    João da Nova
    Tamega
    Zambeze



    Japan

    Chin Yen
    Yashima
    Fuji
    Hatsuse
    Iki
    Tango
    Okinoshiima
    Mishima
    Shikishima
    Asahi
    Suwo
    Iwami
    Hizen
    Mikasa
    Katori
    Kashima
    Ikoma
    Ibuki
    Kurama
    Satsuma
    Aki
    Settsu
    Kongo
    Haruna
    Hiei
    Kirishima
    Fuso
    Yamashiro
    Ise
    Hyuga
    Nagato
    Mutsu



    Russia

    Imperator Nikolai I
    Borodino
    Izmail
    Kinburn
    Navarin
    Plevna
    Petr Veliki
    Tchesma
    Ekaterina II
    Georgi Pobiedonosets
    Sinop
    Imperator Alexander II
    Dvienadstat Apostolov
    Sissoli Veliki
    Admiral Ushakov
    Admiral Seniavin
    General Admiral
    Peresviet
    Oslibia
    Pobieda
    Tsesarevich
    Slava
    Andrei Pervozvanny
    Imperator Pavel I
    Tri Svititelia
    Rostislav
    Pantelimon
    Evstafi
    Ioann Zlatoust
    Sevastopol
    Petropavlovsk
    Poltava
    Gangut
    Imperatritsa Mariya
    Imp. Ekaterina Velikaya
    Imperator Alexander III
    Petr Veliki
    Imperatritsa Maria
    Borodino
    Melpomena
    Bogatyr
    Brailov
    Uspeh
    Flora
    Kamchatka
    Messemvria
    Sizopol
    Tsesarevna
    Tsesarevich
    Khersones
    Bessarabia
    Krym
    Midia
    Gromonosets
    Kagul
    Odessa
    Otvazhnyi
    Hercules
    Constantin
    Khrabryi
    Smelyi
    Grozyashchyi
    Vladimir
    Nadezhda
    Kovarna
    Kulevchi
    Vladimir
    Archimed
    Gremyashchyi
    Diana
    Rurik
    Olaf
    Polkan
    Kornilov
    Askold
    Svetlana
    Ilia Muromets
    Gromoboy
    Khrabryi
    General-Admiral
    Smelyi
    Solombala
    Oleg
    Peresvet
    Oslyabya
    Bayan
    Dmitri Donskoi



    Dutch

    De Zeven Provincien
    Konig der Nederlanden
    Koningin Wilhelmina
    Tromp
    Piet Hein
    Holland
    Zeeland
    Friesland
    Gelderland
    Noordbrabant
    Utrecht
    Prins Hendrik
    Buffel
    Guinea
    Schorpioen
    Stier
    Heiligerlee
    Krokodil
    Tijger
    Bloedhond
    Cerberus
    Adder
    Haai
    Hyena
    Luipaard
    Panter
    Wesp
    Koning
    Draak
    Matador
    Reinier Claeszen
    Evertsen
    Kortenaer
    Marten Harpertzoon
    Jacob v. Heemskerck
    De Ruyter
    Admiraal v. Wassenaer
    Evertsen
    Zeeland
    Prinses Amalia
    Groningen
    Vesuvius
    Adolf Hertog v. Nassau
    Anna Paulowna
    Djambi
    Willem
    Zoutman
    Leeuwarden
    Metallen Kruis
    Curacao
    Zilveren Kruis
    Van Galen
    Atjeh
    Koningin Emma
    De Ruyter
    Van Speyk
    Johan Willem Friso
    Abraham Crijnssen
    Philips van Almonde
    Marnix
    De Bitter
    Witte de With
    Isaac Sweers
    Java
    Sumatra
    Celebes



    Sweden

    Sverige
    Drottning Victoria
    Gustav V
    Prins Oskar
    Äran
    Wasa
    Tapperheten
    Manligheten
    Dristigheten
    Oden
    Thor
    Niord
    Svea
    Göta
    Thule
    Fylgia
    Örnen
    Klas Uggla
    Claes Horn
    Jacob Bagge
    Psilander
    Clas Fleming
    Gotland
    Dristigheten
    Karl XIII
    Karl XIV Johan
    Fäderneslandet
    Försiktigheten
    Gustav den Store
    Äran
    Camilla
    Af Chapman
    Eurydice
    Josefine
    Älvsnabben
    Starkodder
    Styrbiörn
    Tirfing
    Riksäpplet



    Greece

    Vasileos Konstantinos
    Vasileos Georgios
    Vasilissa Olga
    Georgios Averof
    Helle
    Spetsai
    Psara
    Hydra
    Psara
    Spetsai
    Lemnos
    Kilkis
    Salamis
    Nearchos
    Formion
    Kimon
    Themistocles
    Nauarchos Miaoulis
    Ambrakia
    Akteon
    Alpheos
    Achelaos
    Katsonis
    Kountouriotis
    Delphin
    Xiphias
    Poseidon
    Glaukos
    Nereus
    Proteus
    Triton
    Amphitrite
    Triaina
    Katsonis
    Papanikolis
    Acheloos
    Alfeios
    Arcadia
    Athenai
    Esperia
    Eurotas
    Makedonia
    Mykali
    Adriatikos
    Aeolos
    Androutsos
    Argos

     
  9. PPQ_Purple

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    Just a question, what is this Victoria?
     
  10. Voltage

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    What a really good idea you are discussing. Modern ships being named would be awesome to play! Please release it as a modcomp :D
     
  11. Gaius Octavius

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    Victoria is an Earth simulator by Paradox Interactive set in the period of 1836-1920, or roughly the lifespan of Queen Victoria. There is a mod for it called VIP (Victoria Improvement Project) that has a lot of historical events and people, which is where I got the ship names. Quite a fun game, actually.


    I have thought about doing that a lot, but haven't had time because I wanted to do it in tandem with the custom GP, and they're not finished yet. But I suppose if people wanted the ship names without the GP, I could whip up a Python module. :D
     
  12. Voltage

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    I would love to play with it, I think many others would love that feature too!
     
  13. Voltage

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    any progress on this component sir?
     
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    Could anyone tell me the specific files I need from the WWII in the Pacific scenario, and how to unattach them from that mod?
    Thanks
     
  15. MehdiAlexandre

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    Hi guys I've put the fixed mehmet II and it has given me a leaderhead all red and not working well probably it's my graph card which could be a bit low (ATI X600), so i'm looking for the original mehmet II leaderhead files, of the warlords, if you have any tips please let me know.
    Regards
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  16. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Retired Moderator

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    :confused: can anyone explain, what the relation of the last to questions to the topic of this thread is?
     
  17. Shiggs713

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    thats hilarious. Anyhow sorry to break out some necromancy but does anyone know anything about a BtS port for this? I could really use something like this, looks great.

    edit: nevermind, it appears this can be achieved with XML only, thanks.
     
  18. Gaius Octavius

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    My guess is he (the last fellow) simply had the wrong thread open when he posted it. J.Rowand appeared to be asking about the Great People python files, which I used in my WWII scenario. They're fairly easy to spot, having "Great People" or something in the title.

    Not true at all.

    The progress on this has been extremely slow, mainly because it is incredibly time consuming and tedious to verify every name on the list, then organize them in chronological order. It will be completed but I really couldn't say when.

    I guess I could release the old list, but I don't particularly like it because I've discovered too many names that are out of order or don't make sense.
     
  19. The Capo

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    I am rather interested in adding this to my mod, I had a few quick questions though that hopefully you could answer GO, or anybody else for that matter.

    First, what files does this entail? Python, SDK, XML? A little bit of all or some?

    Second, how in-depth are we getting here? Are there full lists for civs like the Sioux, Babylon, and Sumeria? i.e. civs that we don't know much about, or may not have many great scientists for instance? If the answer is yes, are they all historical figures or did you use generic names? If the answer is no, does this mean they use another civs list or go off of the generic list?
     
  20. J.Rowand

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    This mod has comprehensive lists for all the different great people for all of the civs, so there are Sumerian Great Artists and Native American Great Merchants for example. It really is a great mod, and adds much more flavour to the game.
    I know that there are two python files, which can be found in Gaius's WWII scenario, but I can't seem to get them to work, so I don't know if anything else is required.
     

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