Unit requests thread

[Wolfshanze]

and a unit request:
a generic mechanized tank destroyer, called "Tank Destroyer"

Already done... see Snafu's Modern Warfare mod for Warlords.

for BTS? (space)

Try re-reading this:

Already done... see Snafu's Modern Warfare mod for Warlords.

Actually, the requestor asked for a MODEL (ie: "unit request"), not a MOD. There is no such thing as "for BtS" or "for Warlords" when speaking of a model. A model made for Civ4 can be used in any version of the game with the right XML coding. I only mentioned "Warlords" so he would know which mod it was in and where to find it.

A model, is a model, is a model... use it for any version of Civ4 you want folks.

 

[Connery]

I'd love to see a AC-130 Spectre/Spooky gunship, with the ability to bombard single targets and cities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_AC-130

 

[Wolfshanze]

I'd love to see a AC-130 Spectre/Spooky gunship, with the ability to bombard single targets and cities.

This is the model request thread, not the mod request thread. Are you looking for a model or are you looking for a mod? Half of what you asked for is implemented in XML and has nothing to do with making a model available.

 

[Connery]

This is the model request thread, not the mod request thread. Are you looking for a model or are you looking for a mod? Half of what you asked for is implemented in XML and has nothing to do with making a model available.

Exactly.
This half here:

"I'd love to see a AC-130 Spectre/Spooky gunship"

is what this thread is about. The other part involves modding and this thread isn't about it; regardless, I don't see what's wrong with saying i'd love to see a unit model plus it's behaviour modded in-game. No need to get all pissed about it.

 

[Wolfshanze]

No need to get all pissed about it.

Who's "all pissed"? Now you're putting words in my mouth.

Sorry for trying to keep the thread and forum focused on-topic.

 

[Joe Harker]

is what this thread is about. The other part involves modding and this thread isn't about it; regardless, I don't see what's wrong with saying i'd love to see a unit model plus it's behaviour modded in-game. No need to get all pissed about it.

If he didn't keep anyone on topic then we would have countless arguements about which miltary unit is better, don't take it personally!

What would be quite good is more WW2 Crusiers, especially British and German ones.

 

[Wolfshanze]

What would be quite good is more WW2 Crusiers, especially British and German ones.

We're fairly lacking on cruisers... the best one I'm aware of is Snafu's Brooklyn-class US Heavy Cruiser. The Total Realism mod has some very old turn-of the century cruisers in it as well.

 

[Connery]

Sorry for the off topic then. I seriously couldn't lash out on Wolfshanze, seeing as his mod is, for me, the mod for CIV4...

Speaking of which, and keeping on topic, why not branching out for other periods Wolf? This thread here is a good example of how many good modellers there are and how they could be bundled together into a nifty mod.

 

[Wolfshanze]

Sorry for the off topic then. I seriously couldn't lash out on Wolfshanze, seeing as his mod is, for me, the mod for CIV4...

Speaking of which, and keeping on topic, why not branching out for other periods Wolf? This thread here is a good example of how many good modellers there are and how they could be bundled together into a nifty mod.

Can't get it done... I tick too many people off... only modder that ever wants to do any projects for me is General Matt!

Ergo... more cool ships pending (Pre-Dreadnoughts), and the occasional troop-request (Colonial English Rifleman, Austrian Musketman, etc), but not much else!

I am planning on a few other tweaks here and there to some of the naval rules and maybe another civ in the not-too-distant future will be added.

Anyways, I'm drifting off-topic... so what other models do folks want... do I hear any more "Yeah, Martin B-10s" out of any of you?

 

[troytheface]

There are plenty of cruisers, what is sadly lacking is an UnderWater Cruiser, and the Wildcatfish, based on the best fighter of ww2.

 

[Joe Harker]

UnderWater Cruiser

Isn't that basically a sub??!!!

And i have only seen the Brooklyn class crusier,

 

[Wolfshanze]

Isn't that basically a sub??!!!

Don't get him started!

And i have only seen the Brooklyn class crusier

There's some very old cruisers in Total Realism Mod, but I think the Brooklyn is the only WW2-era one I've seen.

 

[dutchking]

(10 chars)

Working on it...

 

[Ekmek]

Hey anyone trying my YF-23 request?

 

[09camaro]

^
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i agree. a modern fighter, the jet fighter moddelled to be a F-86 or F-100.
also, a new bomber before the stealth, the jet bomber.

 

[surdanis]

Okay, I looked I think everywhere for this darn thing, and I just want this unit by itself, in modular: the AC-130 Specter Gunship.

Why, you say?

1. Won't it just function like a Bomber or Stealth Bomber? No. It's actually more like CAS (Close-Air Support) that just flies around the area until the job's done. Play that one level in Call of Duty 4 to get an idea. The level is so realistic, you'd swear you weren't playing a video game...

2. So it would be just another Gunship like the Helicopter Unit already in Civ 4? Yes, and no. The Battleship, for example, is the big sister to the Destroyer. The AC-130 could also be the regular Gunship's big sister.

3. So we make the AC-130 a Helicopter Unit? No! If we did that, the AC-130 would be able to load onto Transports and be vulnerable to Land Unit attacks. The best solution would be to make it act like a Stealth Bomber with limited range and Blitz to attack multiple times per turn. However, it would only be able to attack enemy units and not improvements, etc.

 

[GeoModder]

So, you propose a air unit with multiple attacks/turn while there isn't a single air unit with this ability?

In other news, there already is a Hercules model in the download section.

 

[Connery]

@Surdanis: I requested this too yesterday.
Here's an abridged version:

AC-130 Gunships

The AC-130 gunship series is the most heavily armed close-air support combat aircraft currently in use. The models currently active are the AC-130H Spectre Gunship (deployed 1972) and the AC-130U Spooky Gunship (deployed 1995).

Both are armed with a 105mm cannon, as well as a 40mm grenade launcher and twin 20mmVulcans (Spectre) or a 25mm gatling gun (Spooky).


Front view of the Spectre Gunship

A Spooky Gunship laying down fire.

Another shot of a Spooky Gunship.

In terms of implementation in the game, seeing as Blitz doesn't seem to fit with the other air units, perhaps a devastating effect on ground targets (more damage against cities, more collateral damage, etc.) is more appropriate.
As a side note, cost should be pretty high for these aircrafts.

Also, the C-130 Hercules was the basic frame for the AC-130 gunship, they were refitted to become gunships instead of transport ships so anyone willing to do this could use the in-game model and change it.

Cheers

 

[surdanis]

great, i thought i was the only one who knew what this thing was. thanks, connery, for backing me up.

I was thinking I could take the C-130 model and alter the xml to work for me. I was thinking instead of Blitz to go with your idea. But remember this thing doesn't have bombs. It's mission role is primarily CAS for ground troops, which is why I don't think it should cause collateral dmg or even destroy buildings. Why? NO bombs, just grenades. Those 40mm grenades are basically what's in a regular automatic grenade launcher on the ground, if I'm not mistaken. It's guns are used to take down personnel or vehicles.

Therefore, I propose modding a essentially an upgrade version of the current Gunship so that it won't use the bombing process (like the animations, which doesn't make sense). This will also limit it to fighting other units. I will put restrictions on it so that it cannot load onto Transports, which is ridiculous.

But then you might think, it can get attacked by other units. No problem. We'll just fix it so that it's only attackable by true Air Units such as Fighters and anti-air units such as Mobile SAM's.

Shouldn't be too hard as I was just tinkering with XML as short while ago and got Gunships and Transport Helicopters to load onto Carriers. I even got the Transport Helicopter to load Marines onto it and fly onto land over water. Pretty easy stuff with BTS! But I could use some input and help. New thread perhaps?

 

[Premier Valle]

Yeah, Spectre FTW!!

And we could give it a bonus against armored units, too.

But we still need the AC-130's graphics, shouldn't be to hard to modify the existing Hercules, unfortunatly I have no knowledge on this matter.