Unit requests thread

Wolfshanze · Mar 1, 2008

09camaro said:
thats not exactly what i said.
the submarine and the attack sub are two different animals.
the submarine is modeled after the U-boats. U-boats are subs designed for ship-to-ship combat... Attack subs. They tend to have 4 torpedo tubes and a maximum of 36 torpedoes. they do not have space available for BM's
the Attack sub is modeled after the Ohio Class Ballistic Missile Subs. they aren't designed for ship-to-ship combat, though they do carry two torpedo tubes for defense. they have a maximum of usually around 12 torpedoes, but up to 24 BM's.

So, to simplify it, i want to switch their Names and Stats. the models work as is, but they are for the wrong Subs

Why don't you just straighten out the mess by leaving the attack-sub as-is, removing the missile-carrying from WWII subs and make a new nuclear-age sub that carries missiles (a boomer)... then you'd have a WWII sub, and two nuclear subs (attack and boomer)... then-again, you'd just end-up with what I did in my Wolfshanze Mod (see sig-line).

zappara · Mar 1, 2008

Predecessor for modern day stealth planes:

SR-71 Blackbird

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR71

Side, top and front view

Was thinking that this could be excellent plane unit as a wonder specific unit and could be used for long range reconnaissance missions.

cfkane · Mar 1, 2008

WARNING: THIS IS A HUGE LIST

In preparation for my in development mod Fictionalization IV, I need the help of any unit designers that can assist me.

Spoiler :

surdanis · Mar 1, 2008

Premier Valle said:
Yeah, Spectre FTW!!

And we could give it a bonus against armored units, too.

But we still need the AC-130's graphics, shouldn't be to hard to modify the existing Hercules, unfortunatly I have no knowledge on this matter.

Ok, I did some minor tweaking, and the effect is suprisingly satisfying. Since I can't make the tiny gun props yet, the animation looks slightly awkward, but if you're far enough away, it really doesn't matter. Until I can get a working 3d program, forget getting completely new stuff on this thing. The upload I have is Snafusmith's C-130 Hercules made to function like an AC-130. Stats are as follows:

Spoiler :

You can check it out here:

AC-130 Spectre Gunship

*J/K, it's actually 250 hammers.

Jeckel · Mar 2, 2008

I'm messing around with a small railroad mod and I need one more train unit. I bought Sid Meier's Railroads! so I could use some of its models, but I can't get the graphics ported into Civ4.

I have one train model that I want to use in Civ, if someone could help me out that would be great. The files can be downloaded from this thread.

09camaro · Mar 2, 2008

Wolfshanze said:
Why don't you just straighten out the mess by leaving the attack-sub as-is, removing the missile-carrying from WWII subs and make a new nuclear-age sub that carries missiles (a boomer)... then you'd have a WWII sub, and two nuclear subs (attack and boomer)... then-again, you'd just end-up with what I did in my Wolfshanze Mod (see sig-line).

i could do that.
but i always imagined the attack subs as being Russian, while the Missle subs being American.

Wolfshanze · Mar 2, 2008

09camaro said:
i could do that.
but i always imagined the attack subs as being Russian, while the Missle subs being American.

Why?

Have you never heard of the Los Angeles class attack subs or the Typhoon class Missile subs?

Both the Russians and Americans have both Attack and Missile subs.

09camaro · Mar 2, 2008

Wolfshanze said:
Why?

Have you never heard of the Los Angeles class attack subs or the Typhoon class Missile subs?

Both the Russians and Americans have both Attack and Missile subs.

i know they do.
but in the past, i have had experiances with CnC. and in them, the Russians had attack subs. for the longest time, i thought that only they had them. and they looked like this, except with a more conic nose.
and the American subs to me always looked like this. or the "attack sub" currently in the game.

Wolfshanze · Mar 2, 2008

09camaro said:
i know they do.
but in the past, i have had experiances with CnC. and in them, the Russians had attack subs. for the longest time, i thought that only they had them. and they looked like this, except with a more conic nose.
and the American subs to me always looked like this. or the "attack sub" currently in the game.

Both sides have always had both boomers and attack subs for a loooong time. To say each side only has one or the other, but not both, would be a total fallacy.

Some examples...

Attack Subs:
US: Los Angeles
USSR: Akula

Missile Subs (Boomers):
US: Ohio
USSR: Typhoon

09camaro · Mar 2, 2008

Wolfshanze said:
Both sides have always had both boomers and attack subs for a loooong time. To say each side only has one or the other, but not both, would be a total fallacy.

Some examples...

Attack Subs:
US: Los Angeles
USSR: Akula

Missile Subs (Boomers):
US: Ohio
USSR: Typhoon

your missing my point.
i know that they have both.
but i always imagine one having a distinctive look. and that is what i imagine them to be.

Wolfshanze · Mar 2, 2008

09camaro said:
your missing my point.
i know that they have both.
but i always imagine one having a distinctive look. and that is what i imagine them to be.

Actually, I think you're missing my point.

It doesn't take much effort at all to correct the statistics in the game... the role between a WWII sub, a modern attack sub and a modern missile sub are totally differant from one another... there's three distinct classes of subs for what in-game is wrongfully broken into two classes (WWII subs are NOT missile-subs).

I'm suggesting you may wish to take-away missile carrying from WWII subs, and add a new class of modern missile subs... then you can have statistically correct WWII subs as well as missile and attack subs for modern times and flavor them all you want for Russia and the US (Civ4 models already exist for all four subs I listed in my previous post).

Wolfshanze · Mar 2, 2008

How about a WWII Hungarian (even 'what-if' Austro-Hungarian survived past WWI) Turan II tank?

09camaro · Mar 2, 2008

Wolfshanze said:
Actually, I think you're missing my point.

It doesn't take much effort at all to correct the statistics in the game... the role between a WWII sub, a modern attack sub and a modern missile sub are totally differant from one another... there's three distinct classes of subs for what in-game is wrongfully broken into two classes (WWII subs are NOT missile-subs).

I'm suggesting you may wish to take-away missile carrying from WWII subs, and add a new class of modern missile subs... then you can have statistically correct WWII subs as well as missile and attack subs for modern times and flavor them all you want for Russia and the US (Civ4 models already exist for all four subs I listed in my previous post).

i could do that. ty. and i apologize

surdanis · Mar 2, 2008

LOL, glad you two figured this out.

snafusmith · Mar 2, 2008

@Wolfshanze - The Turan II is on my list of 'To-dos' and is relatively near the top. I think I'll make it during my next break from WW1. I just started another building frenzy for WW1 aircraft (Sopwith Camel, Fokker DVII, AEG G.IV, Breguet Br14, & Sikorsky Ilya Muromets). When I'm done I'll try and get to the Turan.

Wolfshanze · Mar 2, 2008

snafusmith said:
@Wolfshanze - The Turan II is on my list of 'To-dos' and is relatively near the top. I think I'll make it during my next break from WW1. I just started another building frenzy for WW1 aircraft (Sopwith Camel, Fokker DVII, AEG G.IV, Breguet Br14, & Sikorsky Ilya Muromets). When I'm done I'll try and get to the Turan.

Oh cool... I thought all requests that go in this thread are just to kill time, as most of them fall off the face of the earth.

You mean the Turan II might actually see the light of day?!?!

In other news...

Don't suppose you'll be releasing any of those WWI models prior to the mod release date?!?!?! :mischief:

snafusmith · Mar 2, 2008

Wolfshanze said:
Don't suppose you'll be releasing any of those WWI models prior to the mod release date?!?!?!

Some of them will - I'm thinking of doing a skins pack, and possibly a third aircraft pack. I'm still working out what would go in it though...

mamba · Mar 2, 2008

snafusmith said:
Some of them will - I'm thinking of doing a skins pack, and possibly a third aircraft pack. I'm still working out what would go in it though...

Definitely welcome, don't forget about a WWII tank and Modern Armor pack though

surdanis · Mar 2, 2008

snafusmith,

you probbly tend to ignore me since i'm a noob, but ever thought of doing a reskin of the C-130 with a slightly greyer tone? Something along those lines. I'm gonna try to add guns once I get a good program. I've already modified the animation to fire bursts on the gun side of the frame along with a custom sound.

lemme know your thoughts.

as always, you do good work. and i'd also like to hear you reply to my request for a Black Hawk.

snafusmith · Mar 2, 2008

surdanis said:
snafusmith,

you probbly tend to ignore me since i'm a noob, but ever thought of doing a reskin of the C-130 with a slightly greyer tone? Something along those lines. I'm gonna try to add guns once I get a good program. I've already modified the animation to fire bursts on the gun side of the frame along with a custom sound.

lemme know your thoughts.

as always, you do good work. and i'd also like to hear you reply to my request for a Black Hawk.

I have the black hawk on my rediculously long to-do list - don't look for it to come from me within the next year or so. As for the C130, try modifying it yourself, it wouldn't be difficult with one of the many free photoshop-like programs out there.

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