US Election Results Progress Thread:

[spammikone]

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

 

[Aphex_Twin]

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

You can't be serious

 

[EzInKy]

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

Be careful...there is known disparity that questions the accuracy of IQ measurements. Different "races" score differently.

 

[Bamspeedy]

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

Oh, you fell for the hoax, too?

http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2004/05/iq_hoax.html

 

[Bamspeedy]

http://www.isteve.com/Web_Exclusives_Archive-May2004.htm#38115.6465670139

Honest data on smarts by state! In contrast to the bogus "IQ by State" hoax data going around on liberal sites like Daily Kos (see below), the invaluable Ken Hirsch has tabulated the latest state by state official National Assessment of Educational Progress scores against the 2000 election results:

Sorted by NAEP 8th Grade Math Public Schools Score (2003)


Gore 291 Minnesota

Bush 287 North Dakota

Gore 287 Massachusetts

Bush 286 New Hampshire

Bush 286 Montana

Gore 286 Vermont

Bush 285 South Dakota

Bush 284 Wyoming

Bush 284 Kansas

Gore 284 Iowa

Gore 284 Connecticut

Gore 284 Wisconsin

Bush 283 Colorado

Bush 282 Virginia

Bush 282 Ohio

Bush 282 Nebraska

Gore 282 Maine

Bush 281 Indiana

Bush 281 Utah

Bush 281 North Carolina

Gore 281 New Jersey

Gore 281 Oregon

Gore 281 Washington

Bush 280 Idaho

Gore 280 New York

Bush 279 Missouri

Bush 279 Alaska

Gore 279 Pennsylvania

Gore 278 Maryland

Bush 277 Texas

Bush 277 South Carolina

Gore 277 Illinois

Gore 277 Delaware

Gore 276 Michigan

Bush 274 Kentucky

Bush 272 Oklahoma

Gore 272 Rhode Island

Bush 271 West Virginia

Bush 271 Florida

Bush 271 Arizona

Bush 270 Georgia

Bush 268 Tennessee

Bush 268 Nevada

Gore 267 California

Bush 266 Arkansas

Bush 266 Louisiana

Gore 266 Hawaii

Gore 263 New Mexico

Bush 262 Alabama

Bush 261 Mississippi

Gore 243 District of Columbia

Math Averages (Means) (not weighted by population):

Bush States: 276.5

Gore States: 277.1

Sorted by NAEP 8th Grade Reading Public Schools Score (2003)

Gore 273 Massachusetts

Gore 271 Vermont

Bush 271 New Hampshire

Bush 270 North Dakota

Bush 270 Montana

Bush 270 South Dakota

Gore 268 Minnesota

Gore 268 Iowa

Gore 268 Maine

Gore 268 New Jersey

Bush 268 Colorado

Bush 268 Virginia

Gore 267 Connecticut

Bush 267 Wyoming

Bush 267 Ohio

Bush 267 Missouri

Gore 266 Wisconsin

Gore 266 Illinois

Bush 266 Kansas

Bush 266 Nebraska

Bush 266 Kentucky

Gore 265 New York

Gore 265 Delaware

Bush 265 Indiana

Gore 264 Oregon

Gore 264 Washington

Gore 264 Pennsylvania

Gore 264 Michigan

Bush 264 Utah

Bush 264 Idaho

Gore 262 Maryland

Bush 262 North Carolina

Bush 262 Oklahoma

Gore 261 Rhode Island

Bush 260 West Virginia

Bush 259 Texas

Bush 258 South Carolina

Bush 258 Georgia

Bush 258 Tennessee

Bush 258 Arkansas

Bush 257 Florida

Bush 256 Alaska

Bush 255 Arizona

Bush 255 Mississippi

Bush 253 Louisiana

Bush 253 Alabama

Gore 252 New Mexico

Bush 252 Nevada

Gore 251 California

Gore 251 Hawaii

Gore 234 District of Columbia

Reading Averages (Means) (not weighted by population):

Bush States: 262.2

Gore States: 262.5

So, the Gore states scored a fraction of a point higher than the Bush states, but there was essentially no difference.

Source: National Assessment of Educational Progress
National Center for Education Statistics
U. S. Dept. of Education

 

[Portuguese]

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

LOL.
Though I think that may be a bised opinion

 

[scoutsout]

Hey Bamspeedy - have you heard about that airplane crash fatality study? It seems there is a strong correlation between the occupancy rate and the number of fatalities. The planes with lower occupancy rates suffer fewer fatalities when they crash. Isn't statistics amazing!

 

[spammikone]

Muahahahahahaaa!!! You can't escape the truth!

 

[EzInKy]

Muahahahahahaaa!!! You can't escape the truth!

The truth is the state with the lowest IQ score is Mississippi, which also has the highest percentage of black citizens. IQ tests are notoriously biased against race.

 

[Bamspeedy]

The truth is the state with the lowest IQ score is Mississippi, which also has the highest percentage of black citizens. IQ tests are notoriously biased against race.

There is no such study that I have found that shows IQ scores by state. The list posted before was a hoax. Their source was from "Wealth of NATIONS", which does not include any comparison of states, only nations.

However, black citizens could bring down the test (math/verbal) scores (and some would argue the tests are racially biased), and so the southern states where there are more blacks would score lower. Interesting that blacks voted quite largely for Kerry, yet the democrats can't get any southern states.

 

[EzInKy]

There is no such study that I have found that shows IQ scores by state. The list posted before was a hoax. Their source was from "Wealth of NATIONS", which does not include any comparison of states, only nations.

I missed the joke, sorry. These things are hard to take lightly in areas where the KKK still manages to raise it's ugly head every now and then.

 

[ManOfMiracles]

Honest data on smarts by state! In contrast to the bogus "IQ by State" hoax data going around on liberal sites like Daily Kos (see below), the invaluable Ken Hirsch has tabulated the latest state by state official National Assessment of Educational Progress scores against the 2000 election results:

Sorted by NAEP 8th Grade Math Public Schools Score (2003)

And this will be relevant when 8th grade students are allowed to vote...

 

[Bamspeedy]

And this will be relevant when 8th grade students are allowed to vote...

It's a more accurate assessment on intelligence than just pulling numbers out of thin air.

 

[Yom]

As the population grows, you will have more poor AND more rich people. You'd be more convincing if you did supply the % of those in poverty than to supply just the pure number, which doesn't take into account population growth.

I could take those same numbers and say 1.9 million more Americans are above the poverty line this year.

Edit: Oh I see what your saying. But Aggie said the 'majority' and you supplied an argument for 12% of the population (minority).

1.3 million is about 40% of 3.2 million, the putative population growth. If 12% are below the poverty line, and we assume that the poor have an equal amount of growth (percentage-wise) as the middle class and the rich, then there should have only been 400,000 more poor people. Thus there was still an increase of 900,000 or .9 million poor people excluding population growth.

 

[Bamspeedy]

1.3 million is about 40% of 3.2 million, the putative population growth. If 12% are below the poverty line, and we assume that the poor have an equal amount of growth (percentage-wise) as the middle class and the rich, then there should have only been 400,000 more poor people. Thus there was still an increase of 900,000 or .9 million poor people excluding population growth.

And .9 million is what? 0.3% of the population? What do you think is going to be used as more scaremongering, "Poverty increased by .3%" or "There is 900,000 more Americans in poverty" (or even "There is 1.3 million more Americans in povery")

That is my point.

And the poor breed faster.

 

[SolarKnight]

HAs the winner been announced yet? (of the election)

 

[Civrules]

HAs the winner been announced yet? (of the election)

Yes, Bush has won reelection.

 

[Yom]

And .9 million is what? 0.3% of the population? What do you think is going to be used as more scaremongering, "Poverty increased by .3%" or "There is 900,000 more Americans in poverty" (or even "There is 1.3 million more Americans in povery")

That is my point.

And the poor breed faster.

That's my instinct, but instincts are often wrong.

Even if 0.3% more of the population is in poverty, assuming constant growth, the entire nation will be poor by 2280!

That's an egregious misuse of statistics (and doesn't even sound alarming ).

What you said is misleading, though. If 12% of the population is poor, there are 45 million people living below the poverty line, meaning that an increase of 900,000 or .9 million would be a 2% increase in poverty. Either way, it's not an insignifcant number. The idea is to decrease poverty, not make excuses for nearly 1 million more people falling below the poverty line. If we followed your line of thinking, then 1 million jobs lost would be nothing and a non-issue.