US may be facing its own F-16's in combat against Pakistan

[uppi]

EDIT: Germany's Mig29s were sold to Germany a few years ago, here is a pick with Luftwaffe markings.

That doesn't make any sense. I assume you meant they were sold to Poland. However the "price" Poland paid for the German Mig 29 was 1€ per aircraft, so I don't think "sold" is the right word.

 

[Patroklos]

Yes, I meant Poland and it is fixed

I took "sold" from the Wiki article.

 

[Naval Power]

Iraqi military was a typical Arab military: corrupted and utterly incompetent officer staff, poorly trained conscripts, low morale, wrong use of modern equipment etc. If Iraq had been armed with F-15s instead of Migs and M-1s instead of T-72s, it would have lost just as badly.

So pretty much exactly like the Soviet army then ? Face it, yes the Iraqi's were remarkably inferior in every era, but I have a hard time believing that if you put Russians in Iraq and sent the Iraqi soldiers home, they still would have been completely overwhelmed with just as few casualties.

 

[pau17]

Many western countries found themselves in pocession of Soviet equipment after the Cold War either because they had been former Soviet vassels (Poland, Czech Republic), form reunification (Germany), or from buying the hardware to keep it off the open arms market (US, UK, Italy). In some cases that material was just scraped, in others some was kept around to practice against. In others it was incorporated into their armed forces, if I remember correctly Germany had and maybe still does about a dozen Mig29s in the Luftwaffe proper (which is another reason why imagining relying on simulations is not stupid).

EDIT: Germany's Mig29s were sold to Poland a few years ago, here is a pick with Luftwaffe markings.

Those must be some pretty old airframes then, no?

 

[RoboPig]

Apart from the F-16s, wasn't Gen. Kayani trained at Ft. Leavenworth?