US wants to stick a barcode on your arm

[Mondas]

But the bible specifically said it would be in the hand or forehead. The right hand to be exact. TIme will tell how this new chip is implemented.

 

[GerrardCapashen]

They could as easily put them in the forearm or the left hand. Besides, these won't even be visible.

 

[Mondas]

if it's in the forearm or left hand then I can say a lot of christians would be happy to hear that. of course the die-hards christians won't care either way. They see evil in everything.

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

They see evil in everything.

As far as I know, that includes following:

Sex (before AND after marriage)
Homosexuality
[the rest have been deleted to avoid trolling ]

 

[Mondas]

That is all too true

 

[Erik Mesoy]

*agrees with Kamilian, Chieftess and everybody worried*

I'm seeing cellphone pressure. They're becoming mandatory. In Norway, we are now introducing vending machines that can take payments by SMS - and have no coin slot. This is evil, and heading towards rights infringement - but there's no right to pay by coin. The companies choose to provide the service of having vending machines.

I DON'T WANT A CELLPHONE!
I refuse to be made available to everyone with my number (read: anyone) at any time I must switch it on (read: any time). Cellphones are already being pushed this way. I'm already very worried, because I can see the effects of "commercial mandatoriness" with what I feel is a clearer eye.

These chips will have absolutely no problems heading down the same slope. I hate to sound like a doomsday prophet, but this is recalling both 1984 and Revelations to mind. Sure, you could put the chip in a left hand, evading the technicality of the prophecy. But since most people are right-handed, it could be seen as just an advanced button-pressing mechanism. Then we get cybernetics, and the chip goes in your forehead.

I'm worried. I'd pass a law to ban these ahead of time if I could. The cellphone is already mandatory both by commercial pressure, peer pressure and so-called "convenience" where it means to remove the option to pay by anything but a cellphone.

How slippery the slope? How long until the doom of the world?

 

[Chieftess]

And that list was based on something I read 8 years ago... When they were first developing the chip. There were the same worries then, too. I wonder how 280 million people are going to take it once it does become mandatory. Riots? Revolt? Civil War? If the US is out of international action, that would give the green light to any rouge nation to freely mess with world affairs.

 

[Kamilian]

You would expect that people would naturally go 2000 years without ever putting a form of marking on their hands? You must not be counting rings, because those are sure form of marking.

Anything can be a "sign of the end times", if you are determined to find them.

Have rings or tattoos been MANDATORY for everyone any time in the past 2004 years? No.



As for them not being visible... hello? Why would there even be barcode chips in the first place if you couldn't detect them? Scanners, man!

OK, maybe I should rephrase what I originally said...
Barcode chips are NOT automaticlaly the sign of End Times... There is a whole sequence of events that have to come prior to even the first mandatory implantation on either right hand or forehead... But even so... making this already so accessible is only laying down the foundation for easy implementation when the End Times (or, more properly, the 7-year Tribulation) are already "in progress".

 

[GerrardCapashen]

Have rings or tattoos been MANDATORY for everyone any time in the past 2004 years? No.

Are these MANDATORY? No.

As for them not being visible... hello? Why would there even be barcode chips in the first place if you couldn't detect them? Scanners, man!

Obviously they can be read by scanners. But they are not visible to the naked eye as so they really can't be called marks. They are no different from other scannable items that you carry around except that it is embedded in your flesh, making it difficult to remove.

OK, maybe I should rephrase what I originally said...
Barcode chips are NOT automaticlaly the sign of End Times... There is a whole sequence of events that have to come prior to even the first mandatory implantation on either right hand or forehead... But even so... making this already so accessible is only laying down the foundation for easy implementation when the End Times (or, more properly, the 7-year Tribulation) are already "in progress".

Blah blah blah...you need to learn how to argue based on logic, not superstition. What you're saying is no more reasonable than saying "Anyone who votes for Bush will go to hell.", as neither claim has any evidence to back it up.

 

[Damnyankee]

as a praticing christian, i will reply HELL NO to a chip in my body

 

[IglooDame]

as a praticing christian, i will reply HELL NO to a chip in my body

And as a practicing US citizen, I will do the same.

 

[Hygro]

I know this cannot gain too much momentum between the libertarians, the christians, certain new agists, and conspiracy theorists