konradcabral
Prince
First of all, thanks for listening and applying some of my suggestions. I'll test the 2.5 version this week, write down my feedbacks and orderly ;-) provide it along with my ideas.
I liked the previous civics system, but this one, after long discussion, seems to be great. What about the idea i gave about civics been changed without intervention of the player (new type of Rev), and the Great Revolutionary? Do you think it's possible?
Yes!!! I think the tech and WW production race will be more fair from now on.
I've seen the AI using these sometimes. I, on the other side, never... They were totally useless, let's see how they stay now.
Gathering all my ideas about resources:
- Chicken (like cow, pig, sheep)
- Soy
It is one of the more planted grains in the whole world at these days. The main function today is to feed animals (aprox. 70% of the world produce goes to animals' stomach). More than that, like Civ Fuehrer told, soy is used commonly for dairy replacement beverages and food, feeding humans too. Instances: soy milk, soy juice, soy meat, shoyu sauce.
That said, i think soy is a essential resource for Civ 4 and RoM 2.5.
It can be related with the animals resources, giving more food bonus to cow, pig, sheep and chicken. Or just a new food resource. Accepting ideas here! I just think that soy can't be out of Civ.
- Alcoholic Beverages
With a technology named "Destilation and Fermentation Techniques", a building named "Drink Factory" or something like that could be constructed.
This way it goes:
Sugar Cane (in substitution of Sugar)-->"Drink Factory"-->Alcoholic Beverages
Grapes (in substitution of wine) -->"Drink Factory"-->Alcoholic Beverages
Rice and others -->"Drink Factory"-->Alcoholic Beverages
This resource would be exactly the same of wine, only more abundant.
Also:
- Sugar Cane --> Sugar Refinery -- Refined Sugar
- Sugar Cane, Corn --> Oil Refinery (simplification) --> Ethanol (Standard Ethanol Corp. can be deleted)
- Chicken
- I think vulcanized and synthetic rubber (and its buildings) can be deleted. I consider it unnecessary complexity to the game. Just rubber would do the job, gaining more bonus as the game progresses.
- Horse should be obsolete, or lose its bonus, at certain point, maybe Mass Transit.
- Obsidian should be obsolete, or lose its bonus, at certain point.
I came with this idea, that i think it's realistic, but Domino369 spoke with wisdom about early game economy slowing. We need to compensate this somehow. Any ideas, guys?
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About the frequency and Rev conditions, i think it was fine the way it was. I just dislike the unrealistic power of the rebels, gaining more and more units. That's could be a more fair way of easy the AI's pain.
Konrad
I liked the previous civics system, but this one, after long discussion, seems to be great. What about the idea i gave about civics been changed without intervention of the player (new type of Rev), and the Great Revolutionary? Do you think it's possible?
Yes!!! I think the tech and WW production race will be more fair from now on.
I've seen the AI using these sometimes. I, on the other side, never... They were totally useless, let's see how they stay now.
Gathering all my ideas about resources:
- Chicken (like cow, pig, sheep)
- Soy
It is one of the more planted grains in the whole world at these days. The main function today is to feed animals (aprox. 70% of the world produce goes to animals' stomach). More than that, like Civ Fuehrer told, soy is used commonly for dairy replacement beverages and food, feeding humans too. Instances: soy milk, soy juice, soy meat, shoyu sauce.
That said, i think soy is a essential resource for Civ 4 and RoM 2.5.
It can be related with the animals resources, giving more food bonus to cow, pig, sheep and chicken. Or just a new food resource. Accepting ideas here! I just think that soy can't be out of Civ.
- Alcoholic Beverages
With a technology named "Destilation and Fermentation Techniques", a building named "Drink Factory" or something like that could be constructed.
This way it goes:
Sugar Cane (in substitution of Sugar)-->"Drink Factory"-->Alcoholic Beverages
Grapes (in substitution of wine) -->"Drink Factory"-->Alcoholic Beverages
Rice and others -->"Drink Factory"-->Alcoholic Beverages
This resource would be exactly the same of wine, only more abundant.
Also:
- Sugar Cane --> Sugar Refinery -- Refined Sugar
- Sugar Cane, Corn --> Oil Refinery (simplification) --> Ethanol (Standard Ethanol Corp. can be deleted)
- Chicken
- I think vulcanized and synthetic rubber (and its buildings) can be deleted. I consider it unnecessary complexity to the game. Just rubber would do the job, gaining more bonus as the game progresses.
- Horse should be obsolete, or lose its bonus, at certain point, maybe Mass Transit.
- Obsidian should be obsolete, or lose its bonus, at certain point.
I came with this idea, that i think it's realistic, but Domino369 spoke with wisdom about early game economy slowing. We need to compensate this somehow. Any ideas, guys?
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About the frequency and Rev conditions, i think it was fine the way it was. I just dislike the unrealistic power of the rebels, gaining more and more units. That's could be a more fair way of easy the AI's pain.
Konrad
Mod component updates or civic changes must have been the cause for the fix.
). AIs seem to be building fewer roads at start which is good thing I guess, building roads on ancient times should be huge feat from any nation.
but with Civ4 the problem is the lack of resource graphics (or at least has been) which has prevented me from adding some new resource types (f.ex. glass is still made from "incorrect" materials). I haven't looked recently what kind of resources community here has released recently. Obsidian I made myself from WoC's Diamond resource as it was quite easy to just retexture it - plan was to make Obsidian more useful with modern healthcare (surgical knives) but I didn't find yet good way to implement it.
