Vox Populi Congress Proposal Workshop

[CppMaster]

Ahh ok. Would you consider removing Courthouse from puppet cities?

 

[N.Core]

I wanted to make the Colony building disappear if you reach a certain amount of population because bigger cities that have already been independent for so long aren't easy to integrate into an empire.

So you can annex it before it gets too big, or annex it later but you have to build a Courthouse if you want to remove the unhappiness.

 

[usadefcon1]

I just got sanctioned in my current game and I personally think it's too strong, but I can't think of exactly how to tone it down.

I'm interested in hearing what the current community feelings are towards it and any ideas on how to change it (or if you think it's good as is).

 

[Haldar]

I just got sanctioned in my current game and I personally think it's too strong, but I can't think of exactly how to tone it down.

I'm interested in hearing what the current community feelings are towards it and any ideas on how to change it (or if you think it's good as is).

Hm, the sanction blocks all Trade Routes/deals, except with vassals, right? Maybe add a possibility of deals/routes with civs you have DoF with? if you get sanctioned, it's likely that most of the civs hate you, and still would limit 90% or all of you trade, but if you managed to keep some friendship, it could give a bit of breathing room

 

[Tekamthi]

I'm interested in hearing what the current community feelings are towards it and any ideas on how to change it (or if you think it's good as is).

I've always disliked how absolute it was... Can't recall which one now, maybe it was all, but in 2/3/4 you could defy congress at huge global diplo penalty... Probably lots of work on AI side to accomplish this however

 

[usadefcon1]

Hm, the sanction blocks all Trade Routes/deals, except with vassals, right? Maybe add a possibility of deals/routes with civs you have DoF with? if you get sanctioned, it's likely that most of the civs hate you, and still would limit 90% or all of you trade, but if you managed to keep some friendship, it could give a bit of breathing room

I've always disliked how absolute it was... Can't recall which one now, maybe it was all, but in 2/3/4 you could defy congress at huge global diplo penalty... Probably lots of work on AI side to accomplish this however

I was thinking about it last night, maybe just a turn limit would be enough:

Sanctions Last 50 Turns

Extend Sanction Vote:
After skipping one WC session, sanctions on the same Civ can be extended by an additional 50 turns (100 turns in total)

 

[msw1]

I think sanctioning should be pretty devastating. It's sort of like the diplomatic version of losing a war. The problem is that with the current AI, unless you turn off victory competition, it's essentially impossible to be on good terms with the powerful civs unless you're losing and they're not aggressive. This leads to getting sanctioned in every game that you don't ally a bunch of city states in...

 

[detroitrex]

I think sanctioning should be pretty devastating. It's sort of like the diplomatic version of losing a war. The problem is that with the current AI, unless you turn off victory competition, it's essentially impossible to be on good terms with the powerful civs unless you're losing and they're not aggressive. This leads to getting sanctioned in every game that you don't ally a bunch of city states in...

While we're at it, "everyone loves you and you're getting close to reaching some completely arbitrary amount of popularity, therefore I hate you now" is a bit daft. Outside of domination, the idea that you're about to "win" history and therefore I hate you is easily the cheapest-feeling and game-iest thing in all of civ.

 

[usadefcon1]

While we're at it, "everyone loves you and you're getting close to reaching some completely arbitrary amount of popularity, therefore I hate you now" is a bit daft. Outside of domination, the idea that you're about to "win" history and therefore I hate you is easily the cheapest-feeling and game-iest thing in all of civ.

I'm pretty sure you can turn that off in DiploAIOptions

 

[Recursive]

While we're at it, "everyone loves you and you're getting close to reaching some completely arbitrary amount of popularity, therefore I hate you now" is a bit daft. Outside of domination, the idea that you're about to "win" history and therefore I hate you is easily the cheapest-feeling and game-iest thing in all of civ.

Turn on "Disable AI Victory Competition" and/or "Disable AI Endgame Aggression" in Advanced Settings.