Warfare Expanded (for MOAR) 7.3

[Wolfdog]

I played a little with More Units and Warfare (thx for your help ) and I have some minor changes to make suggestions (of course if you want).
1. In the case of Persia, replace the cataphracts unit with a armored horseman unit. For now, this nation has two heavy cavalry units available at the same time that have similar stats.
2. Strengthen slightly cataphracts, while armored horseman reduce range of movement to 3.
3. Improve some icons of units because they are quite blurred (especially their outlines). In addition to the various icons for pike & shot / tercio and cataphracts / armored horseman.


These are my observations, and I just wanted to show what it would be like to improve

Thanks for the feedback.
1. I will get that changed. I did not really look to much into the UU for each Civ and there are probably a couple of others that need fixing.
2. Yes the Cataphract should be better than a standard Armored Horseman so I will fix that too.
3. I am not a 2D artist and this is about as good as it gets from me. If there are any 2D artist who want to fix/make icons and portraits for me I would be extremely grateful.

 

[Wolfdog]

Wolfdog updated Warfare Expanded (for MOAR) with a new update entry:

More Naval Units

Added Galleass to Naval Ranged.
Added Armored Cruiser to Naval Ranged.
Added Battlecruiser to Naval Ranged.
Added Kirov as Missile Cruiser CV for Eastern Europe, East Asia and Mugal.
Added a Heavy Naval Ranged unit line which uses bombard attack instead of ranged attack.
Added Galleon to Heavy Naval Ranged.
Added Ship Of The Line to Heavy Naval Ranged.
Added Pre Dreadnought to Heavy Naval Ranged.
Changed Battleship to Heavy Naval Ranged.
Made Battleship slower but more powerfull and use...

Read the rest of this update entry...

 

[Golan v]

and again you rock!
no words man!

 

[Wolfdog]

and again you rock!
no words man!

Cheers man. I did not get around to the Marine this time but I will add it next update along with an AAV-7A1.

 

[Magic90]

Slow clap
So many boats, can't wait to try them out!

 

[chrisgatt7]

What would you think about some Cold War era units ... like Cold War jet fighter ... and such ... what other units are you planing ? I saw something about a marine and AAV unit ?

 

[Laurana Kanan]

The new update looks brilliant, Wolfdog!

Although I haven't had a chance to play yet, I'm curious how the AI handles a second Naval Ranged unit line. Do they build both (e.g. Battlecruisers & Battleships)?

I'm unsure what, if any, difference is there in a Naval Ranged unit using Range Attack vs. Bombard? I know there's a difference for land units when attacking units vs cities.

I also didn't see any changes to MOAR's Yamato. Does it need to be moved to the Heavy Naval Ranged line?

 

[Magic90]

The new update looks brilliant, Wolfdog!

Although I haven't had a chance to play yet, I'm curious how the AI handles a second Naval Ranged unit line. Do they build both (e.g. Battlecruisers & Battleships)?

I'm unsure what, if any, difference is there in a Naval Ranged unit using Range Attack vs. Bombard? I know there's a difference for land units when attacking units vs cities.

I also didn't see any changes to MOAR's Yamato. Does it need to be moved to the Heavy Naval Ranged line?

From what I've gathered, there's another naval line called "heavy naval ranged" which has the naval bombard units (ship of the line, pre-dreadnoughts, etc.) and the cruisers go under the normal naval ranged line. I think the difference between the naval ranged and bombard attacks are the same as the land units, if I'm not mistaken. So the "heavy" naval units will be better at bombarding cities than other units, and vice versa with the "regular" naval ranged unit. I also noticed they both share the same promotion line too

 

[Laurana Kanan]

From what I've gathered, there's another naval line called "heavy naval ranged" which has the naval bombard units (ship of the line, pre-dreadnoughts, etc.) and the cruisers go under the normal naval ranged line.

Yes, I know that. My question is how the AI handles two unit lines that are both Naval Ranged. Does it differentiate between the two (One having Siege AIType and the other not.)? Or, does it prioritize one over the other?

I think the difference between the naval ranged and bombard attacks are the same as the land units, if I'm not mistaken. So the "heavy" naval units will be better at bombarding cities than other units, and vice versa with the "regular" naval ranged unit.

You're partly correct. The "COMBAT_RANGED_VS_DISTRICT_STRENGTH_MODIFIER" only seems to work with Land Ranged units. In my testing all "CLASS_NAVAL_RANGED" units attack cities and units at full strength (There is no modifier shown in the combat preview.), which wouldn't be the case if the first modifier applied. However, the "COMBAT_BOMBARD_VS_UNIT_STRENGTH_MODIFIER", which affects Land Siege units, also seems to affect Naval units with a Bombard Attack. When trying to bomb land units I received the -17 penalty that Siege units have.

I also noticed they both share the same promotion line too

They do share the same promotion class.

 

[Wolfdog]

I have not had much chance to do any testing so I am not sure how well the heavy naval ranged will perform. I do think I will need to add a promotion class for them though in the next update. Looks like some modifiers may be an issue as well.

What would you think about some Cold War era units ... like Cold War jet fighter ... and such ... what other units are you planing ? I saw something about a marine and AAV unit ?

Yes I would like to at some point re-visit the aircraft and add some cultural variation. I may even get USA out of the Northern Europe cultural group (I have no idea why USA and Russia were in there to begin with) and into a North American cultural group.

 

[Clubber Lang]

Naval update, rad!

 

[Stlyker]

I update the Chinese text with the new Naval unit for this great mod,would you like to update it next time?

 

[Metaton]

Hi Wolfdog,

I tried to use your mod, but once the scenario is set it I get to the loading screen for approx. 3 seconds and it is throwing me back to the main screen again.
I am not sure which version is required from moar units mod, should I use this? https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/moar-units-mod.25391/
What do you mean by moar units core is not compatible?
Is the above link is the core version? A different version would be needed?
I tried to pinpoint what could be wrong, I tried to download the previous versions of your mod and the moar units mod as well, but it seems they are not working together for me, even if I try to match the versions. If I disable Warfare Expanded then it loads fine.

Am I doing something wrong?

 

[Golan v]

@Metaton - what game version are you using???

 

[Wolfdog]

I update the Chinese text with the new Naval unit for this great mod,would you like to update it next time?

Thank you, I will add this to the next update.

@Metaton as @Golan v was saying you need to be patched to the latest version of Civ 6. The link you posted is the correct version of MOAR.


On another note I think I will need to will bring out a minor update to address the Yamato and bombard penalty.

 

[Wolfdog]

Wolfdog updated Warfare Expanded (for MOAR) with a new update entry:

Siege Penalty Fix

Updated the Chinese text thanks to @Stlyker.
Added mod load order to try and fix icon issues in MOAR DLC's.
Got rid off the -17 attack penalty bug for naval heay ranged.
Fixed Battleship not able to attack.
Updated Yamato to be Heavy Naval Ranged.

Read the rest of this update entry...

 

[Wolfdog]

If you don't use MOAR DLC please download this file and replace the modinfo file in the mods folder.

 

[Golan v]

new "bug" after last update (today) - promotion to ground attack does not work - I am not sure yet if its to all aircrafs....

 

[Wolfdog]

new "bug" after last update (today) - promotion to ground attack does not work - I am not sure yet if its to all aircrafs....

Thanks, I will check it out.

EDIT: I just looked on steam and some users are reporting that they cannot upgrade aircraft either if you have any promotions pending. If they promote the unit then they can upgrade Is this the same as what you are experiencing?

 

[Golan v]

Yep..exacly